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Keeping up with Epperly

December 22, 2011 by Bo Sanders Leave a Comment

I was so pleased to turn on the Doug Pagitt radio show podcast and hear the voice of Bruce Epperly. Several months ago I had the chance to interview Dr. Epperly – he made my job pretty easy.

As we get ready for 2012 Emergent Village Theological Conversation – which will feature conversation partners like Epperly – I wanted to highlight 3 recent connecting points with his work.

Doug Pagitt Radio Show (hour 2)  - also available on I-tunes

Blog about the Incarnation over at Patheos

A quote from his book “Process Theology: a guide for the perplexed”

The world emerges from the dynamic interplay of flux and permanence, in which the eternal and unchanging finds its relevance through its relationship to the temporal and changing world, and the temporal and changing finds completion in its role as contributing to the ongoing universe, embraced by God’s everlasting and ever-expanding experience of the universe… God is not the exception to the dynamic nature of the universe but rather the dynamic God-world relationship is the primary example of creaturely experience in its many expressions. – p 21

I find Dr. Epperly’s thinking and writing to be so accessible and helpful for really wading into a thoughtful engagement.

Two other points of interest: 

You can get Doug Pagitt’s books – like Church in the Inventive Age – on Kindle instantly if you need a book for the plane flight home this holiday season.

My mentor Randy Woodley was on Doug’s show for Thanksgiving to talk about Native American theological and historical perspectives. It was a fantastic 46  minute interview

 

a thought from the blog listed above:

…God is present in every moment of experience as the source of possibilities and the energy to embody these possibilities in everyday life. Accordingly, we are all, in varying degrees, incarnations of divine wisdom and creativity. The greater openness toward God’s presence in our lives, the more God can be present, guiding, energizing, and inspiring our lives.  Jesus’ uniqueness is not to be found in an absolute discontinuity between God’s presence in his life and God’s presence in our lives, but in the nature and intensity of God’s presence in Jesus’ life.

Filed Under: conversations, engaging, latest, thinking Tagged With: Bible, book, books, Bruce Epperly, Conversation, Doug Pagitt, Emergent, God, incarnation, jesus, Native American, Patheos, Process, Randy Woodley, Thanksgiving

a big difference between Christianity and Islam

July 14, 2011 by Bo Sanders 18 Comments

I continue to be very excited about the Claremont Lincoln University Project to bring together Jewish, Muslim and Christian scholars and practitioners. It is essential for the future that each tradition initiate its young leaders and thinkers in at atmosphere of mutual exchange and understanding.

The reason this is so important is that these three religions are not the same. They are not simply three expressions of a common understanding. They are vastly and distinctly different from each other. Of course there is commonality and overlap – for instance all three are a covenantal people and point to a covenant they have with God. I am interested to hear how each of the three groups reflects on and lives into their particular understanding.

Many Christians seem to think that the big difference between Christianity and both Islam and Judaism is what they believe about Christ. I do not think that views on Jesus is the biggest difference between the three. In fact, I am suspicious that any Christian willingness to revisit a wooden-literal reading of passages like John 14:6 or reexamine the language and meta-physics of the creedal formulations would easily result in an understanding that did not violate the Quranic understanding that God has no children. Vocabularies of ‘how God was present in Christ’ are already being worked out by followers of the prophet Isa (Jesus) in Muslim countries. [Link: an article on c-6 contextualization]

In my mind, there is a much bigger difference between the three religions than an understanding of Jesus’ identity. It has to do with the earth.

Christianity is primarily time based. While the Christian gospel is one of incarnation, ironically, Christianity has become something that is not place-based and especially not land-based. This is easily illustrated by looking at some Muslim practices and noticing their absence or contrast in Christianity.

  • Prayer Direction: When Muslim pray, they face Mecca. This is a directional earth-relative orientation. Christianity lacks this orientation.
  • Pilgrimage: Once in their lives Muslims are expected to make a pilgrimage to Mecca. This is an intentional journey to a specific location on the surface of the earth that holds special meaning. Christianity has no such thing.
  • Sunset: Certain holy days are marked as beginning at “sundown” or when a specific phase of the moon first appears as observed in a set location. This shows an awareness of the seasons, the sun, and the moon. Christian holy days and holidays are based on a calendar and clock.
  • Language: If you want to read the Quran you need to learn Arabic. The Christian gospel is not only translatable into any language – Christians believe that it should be translated into every language. The Gospel is equally valid in any and every language.

In his book Whose Religion is Christianity?: the Gospel beyond the West, Lamin Sanneh puts it this way:

Being that the original scripture of the Christian movement, the New Testament Gospels are translated versions of the message of Jesus, and that means Christianity is a translated religion without a revealed language. The issue is not whether Christians translated their scriptures well or willingly, but that without translation there would be no Christianity or Christians. Translation is the church’s birthmark … Christianity  seems unique in being the only world religion that is transmitted without the language or originating culture of its founder (p. 97-98)

I have several more examples of difference (including names of God and views of “holy” land) but I simply wanted to illustrate that these are three covenantal religions that all point to Abraham, they are significantly different from each other in practice and understanding. That is why I am excited to hear what they each bring to the table and what we might be able to learn from each other… because we bring such unique, distinct, and particular expressions to the conversation.

Filed Under: engaging, latest, news, politics, thinking Tagged With: C6, Claremont Lincoln, Context, Culture, Global, God, gospel, incarnation, Islam, jesus, John 14:6, Judaism, Lamin Sanneh, Logos, Quran, translation

The Big Theological Throw Down with John Cobb & Paul Capetz: Homebrewed Christianity 101

May 9, 2011 by Tripp Fuller 7 Comments

With this mind blowing episode the Homebrewed Christianity Podcast crosses into the second 100 episodes!!  Chad and I are thrilled to still be trying out this audiological and theological adventure with all y’all Deacons!  Going forward we would really like to know more about who you want on (and back on), topics or themes to cover, and some smack talk on the HBC call-in line 678-590-BREW!

It is not on accident that our corner turning podcast features not one…..but two amazing theologians.  John Cobb, the living legend of Process Theology, is joined by my favorite Calvinist Paul Capetz.  Both John and Paul have been on the podcast before but this conversation transcends the possibilities available to any one guest! In this episode we will discuss…

- Religious Pluralism

- The importance of the Incarnation

- Question the necessity of the Trinity

- Discuss fall of the Mainline Churches

- Liberalism? Progressive?

- The Mission of the Church Today

Check out John Cobb’s monthly FAQ about Process Theology if you want to know more. You can even submit a question!

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Filed Under: features, podcast Tagged With: christology, church, incarnation, john cobb, liberalism, Paul Capetz, pluralism, progressive, trinity

Incarnation and Imagination with Darby Ray: Homebrewed Christianity 71

December 30, 2009 by Chad Crawford 3 Comments

We finish up the second year of the podcast with Darby Kathleen Ray, professor of religious studies at Millsaps College in Jackson, Mississippi. Dr. Ray’s book Incarnation and Imagination: A Christian Ethic of Ingenuity is about the incarnation as the key to God’s ingenious and imaginative response to human evil. Her work inspires Christians to be creative in confronting injustice. She’s also a really fun and engaging guest.

And we have an additional treat! Ryan Parker of PopTheology.com returns with film reviews of Avatar and Invictus, using some ingenuity of his own in finding a common thread to tie these two very different movies together.

We will be back in 2010 with Season 3 of Homebrewed Christianity Podcast, starting with another visit from Tony Jones.

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Filed Under: podcast Tagged With: Avatar, incarnation, Invictus, Tony Jones

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