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What the heck Hauerwas?

August 29, 2011 by Bo Sanders 18 Comments

I had just come back from Big Tent Phoenix and had a chance to go to Fuller Seminary to hear Stanley Hauerwas. I had read his The Peaceable Kingdom and Resident Aliens. I had also listened to him lecture on John Howard Yoder and several other topics. So, I was excited for the Q&R time – my plan was to throw out a generic question and see what response he might have.

 “I just got back from Big Tent Phoenix where Emergents, Evangelicals, and Mainliners were talking about the future of the church. Do you have any thoughts on these ecumenical conversations?”

His response surprised me. He clearly was not as impressed with the diverse collection as I was and simply said “the future of the church is not found in things like this, the future is doing the same thing Sunday after Sunday.” 

That was it. That was his answer. It was short but not sweet. I couldn’t tell if he was being kurt or dismissive but he definitely had little interest in the conversation.

I asked Tripp about this to begin the most recent TNT (Theology Nerd Throwdown) and he had an interesting take on it. Tripp focused on doing varied things with the same intention instead of simply repeating the same things in a rote manner. I thought that was very gracious of him. 

As a contextual theologian it is impossible to say how much I disagree with Hauerwas on this one. [see contextualization in the Global Dictionary of Theology p. 192]

 Many Christians, especially from the majority world, have come to realize that the theologies they have received from Euro-American churches and missionaries or from Euro-American theological textbooks hardly connect their experiences and situations. Contextualization proceeds from this realization and asserts that theologies must not only be rooted in the biblical story, it must also engage in the concrete (local) realities in which Christians find themselves. On the other hand, contextualization recognizes the plurality of local churches and the diversity of theologies in the worldwide body of Christ. In general, contextualization recalls the missionary nature of all theology (von Allmen), in contrast to an understanding of theology that is static, disengaged and acultural.

I must admit that I have not read enough of Hauerwas to know what he thinks about contextualization. I am certainly not trying to pigeon-hole him or turn him into a caricature to be dismissed. I am simply and honestly disagreeing.

 The future of the church is not found in doing the same thing Sunday after Sunday. The future of the church is found in participating with God in our context as those in scripture and church history did in their contexts. That may or may not have anything to do with Sunday. But it certainly will look different on any given Sunday in any particular place than it did on a previous Sunday in some other place. The heart behind it may be the same as will the motivation… but the forms and practices naturally evolve, adapt, and transform as we interact with our environment and historical adjustments.

I have no interest in doing the same thing next Sunday that I did this past Sunday – nor do I believe that I am supposed to.  Thoughts? 

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Filed Under: church history, emergent, engaging, latest, thinking Tagged With: Church History, Contextualization, Fuller Seminary, Stanley Hauerwas, Sunday

Bo’s Big concern about the future of the church

June 23, 2011 by Bo Sanders 15 Comments

Two weeks ago I had the opportunity to go to an event at Fuller Seminary where Phyllis Tickle, Lauren Winner and Tony Jones were speaking. During the Q & R time I asked this question:

When you look at attendance rates across the board, the atrocious rate that we are losing young people raised in the church, and the passing of the WWII generation (I could have listed several other factors) … Do you think that 50 years from now there will be 50% fewer Christians in North America than there is today?

And if that is so, will homosexuality be the straw that broke the camels back?

Tony passed, Lauren wanted nothing to do with it (in their defense they are not ‘futurists’ by their own admission) so Phyllis gave the response. It was good. I have it on audio and will let her respond down the road.

I just wanted to post the question here. I do think that in 50 years there will be 50% fewer Christians in North America than there is today. I also think that is a problem… not because the church does not function well as a minority, but because the kind of christianity that we have is not calibrated well to be in that scenario.

Like it or not, the majority of our frameworks, institutions, establishments, attitudes, expectations, and Biblical interpretations are hold over from Christendom frameworks (if not colonial ones) but with the added blind spot of a lack of self-awareness. Most Christians that I talk to in Canada and the US seem to think that this is the way it should be.

I actually think that all this is just kindling. There is some gas that will be thrown on the fire. When the Baby Boomers retire (which they have just started to do) there will a significant loss of revenue and we will no longer be able to fund ministry the way that we have been. That is what will inflame the situation dramatically.

Add this to the Internet (making resources available and connections possible), the Browning of America (no white majority by 2050) and internal fighting of those who claim the name … and we may be talking about a tipping point.

Add this to the fact that a lot of people have bought into a form of Christianity (whether it is conservative, charismatic, evangelical, etc.)  that looks for the Rapture (Tim Lehaye style) . But 50 years from that still will not have happened… and the disillusionment will be devastating.

Put it all together and I think that in 50 years there will be 50% fewer Christians in North America than there is today. But that it just my opinion – I could be wrong.

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Filed Under: engaging, latest, thinking Tagged With: Claremont, Fuller Seminary, Lauren Winner, Phyllis Tickle, Tony Jones

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