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Do people know that the Immaculate Conception wasn’t Jesus? I didn’t.

December 20, 2012 by Bo Sanders 14 Comments

Two things that you should know up front:
#1 as someone raised Evangelical – I love Christmas.  Now that I am working in a Mainline church – I am warming up to Advent.
#2 I am not a Catholic Scholar so what I am about to say is my own little theory about coming to this party late.

 Do people know that the immaculate conception wasn’t Jesus?  Because  I sure didn’t. 

It was not until I was studying Christology in Seminary that I figured out that I may have been fed some bad information.

I find it really helpful to work your way backward for this kind of stuff.

The churches of early centuries wanted to say something about Jesus being fully divine and fully human.

Working with the meta-physics they had at the time, they had to get the daddy influence out of there – since that was primarily how sin was transmitted.  So Jesus couldn’t have had an earthly father.

Subsequently there couldn’t be any sex. So you have a virginal conception.

This makes a lot of sense because if you want to say that Jesus was the ‘lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world’ then Jesus has to be ‘without sin’.

So, no dad – no sex … but there is still an earthly mother… SO if you retroactively move it backward … you have to fit Mary with an immaculate conception herself.

Immaculate conception is that Mary was given a one-time (unique) preservation from original sin being transmitted.  That immaculate conception was Mary’s conception by her earthly parents. Mary was conceived by regular sinful parents in an impure act  - just like everyone else – but UNlike everyone else, God intervened and did not allow the original sin to be transmitted.  This is not saying anything about Mary’s avoidance of personal sin later … only that she did not inherit original sin.

In working backward like this you can see how this is a somewhat necessary move in order to get the elemental purity (substance) you need in order for the formula to work out the way that you are after.

No earthly dad substance + No impure sex + a Mom who was unstained by original sin = a person who was fully human yet without sin.  

If you were playing by the rules of the meta-physical game back then – this is what you had to do in order to say what they wanted to say about Jesus.

Like I said yesterday, I don’t have a problem pointing out the function of the language the early church used in order to formulate what they were trying to convey. BUT neither do I have the need to point that they were ‘wrong’ or that their formulations would not stand up under modern scientific scrutiny.

This is an important point! We do not think about sex-sperm-semen the way that they did.
We don’t hold the same views of ‘substacne’ (ousia) that the ancients did.
We don’t conceptualize matter, particles, conception the way people in the early centuries did.
We are not playing by the same philosophical rules that governed the game the Creeds were involved with.

Two last things: 

- Dale Allison points out that biblical references (Genesis 24, Galatians 3, Romans 9:7) show a view that can be charicterized as little humans being IN the seed and so we were all – in a sense – IN our great grandfather’s loins before our dad was even born.  Odd imagery I know but … pre-modern conceptions just … are what they are.

- The Bible is not one book (Biblia means library) and so these different books were written at different times. I look at them as ‘snapshots’ of the time.  The Creeds are the same way.  They are snapshots of an era.  You can’t look at a picture of your grandma from her teenage years and say “this isn’t what she looks like AT ALL!”.  It’s a snapshot of specific period.

Thoughts? 

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Weaving History, Context, and Innovation into Christianity: a rockin’ theology

July 9, 2012 by Bo Sanders 1 Comment

I was away on a youth service trip last week and upon my return had the opportunity to listen to the Barry Taylor podcast from last week’s live show. It sounded great and I was sorry to have missed it.

About 23 minutes in to The Theology of Rock, Barry Taylor talks about the play between the universal nature of music and the highly contextual nature of styles and genres. He points out that while music is said to be universal, actual songs and individual expression are very particular and specifically located. They come from a place and in a time and that lyrics – while they may get the lion’s share of attention – are nearly inconsequential in some respects to understanding what is going on in the music.

Lyrics are often an afterthought and may even be antagonistic to what is going on in the music itself. This was a fascinating point and it sent my brain on wild series of connections and contrasts in theology.

My background is in contextual theology and as I stated two weeks ago in my post about the Creeds as contextual documents (or time/place snapshots) they are neither universal nor timeless. Christian expressions – even the early Creeds – are both radically located and time-bound. Now, the objection is always that ‘they were not intended to be so – the authors surely believed them to be universal and for all times’.  While it may be true that writers of the creeds, or the Reformers or systematic theologians in general may be under that impression, we see the historical flaw in that line of thinking.

 We see now that all theology and thus theological expression are contextual expression that are uniquely located and particularly time specific. It’s not just the language (Greek or Latin or German) that needs to be translated but the ideas, concepts and content itself needs to be translated and renovated.

I would like to put forward a proposition to help us unravel the tangled web of theological history and frame – in a positive way – a path forward. I am suggesting that we acknowledge that we are alway braiding or weaving a fabric from at least 3 strands:

  •  History and Tradition: Theology and other Christian expressions don’t happen in a vacuum. We never start with a blank slate. We never get back to zero – and we are not supposed to! We are part of long history with much tradition and we are to honor that even while continuing out along the trajectory provided.
  •  Context and Location: All truth is both received and expressed in cultural containers that come with inherent lenses through which we interpret what we see, experience and receive. Our job is to acknowledge and incorporate this understand as we engage our culture, place, and time in a meaningful way that is faithful to the tradition, based on the historic precedent, and aware of our modern realities.
  •  Innovation and Expression: Nothing stays the same. We are fooling ourselves if we pretend otherwise. Language – even about God, technology, and society are fluid realities that call for us to adjust, revisit, and renovate our understandings and activities. Christianity is uniquely designed to adapt and evolve. We are not only called to it but are empowered with a unique set of tools embedded within the Gospels and Acts of the early Church.

The trick is to stop reducing down things down to simply one element in our thinking. That reductive move is death to both understanding and applying the very message that we are talking about!  [read Lamin Sanneh’s Whose Religion is Christianity?: the Gospel beyond the West  for more]

 It is not simply history or tradition. People who extract content without accounting for historical context or timely innovation are in grave danger of importing and imposing collateral damage every time and in every place they do so. If we do not acknowledge the particular time and unique context from which any expression emerged, then we are willfully blind to the cultural constraints and societal containers that framed the content.

 It is not merely context. We are not free to disregard the precedent of the past. The entire project of theological reflection and Christian expression is in dialogue with the historic tradition. If one wants to do something else, that is fine – I get that – but to do theology is to submit to some level of constraint within the forms and disciplines employed.

 It is not only innovation. We do need to, in fact we must, engage our time and world as it is. We can no longer afford to  retreat into a romanticized imagined past (like the radical orthodox). But neither can we simply disregard the tradition and act as if we ourselves are not cultural creatures and products of socialization and cultural-religious conditioning. We are not free to do whatever we want. The entire enterprise is to be in dialogue with the tradition, to acknowledge the contextual nature of all truth and to engage our time and place appropriately based on that.

Theology is not simply history or tradition. It is not merely context. It is not only innovation. Christian theology is a dynamic interplay between these three elements (not to mention issues of power that effected formation of things like the early Creeds). We are foolish to ignore them historically and our work is impotent if we don’t acknowledge them and joyfully incorporate them in our work today.

We do well when we incorporate the long tradition into our context and allow for an appropriate level of innovation that honors the trajectory of the tradition and provides a continuity with the precedent of the past.

-Bo Sanders 

 

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Of Creeds and Lean-tos: thoughts on temporary shelters

June 27, 2012 by Bo Sanders 28 Comments

I am a big fan of the early churches’ creeds. I appreciate them for their historical significance, for the trajectory that they provide, and for their value as snapshots in the formation of the tradition.

In fact, as a contextual theologian, I adore them as amazing time-capsules of expressions from a very particular time and a definite location. They tell us so much about what was going on, what was a stake, what was being combated and what was already established and settled.

I actually have no problem with the creeds. My problem comes from what certain folks want to do with ‘the Creeds’ and what they try to make them into. Let’s be clear about what they are not:

  • They are not timeless and universal expressions. They are very timely and remarkably located.
  • They are not litmus tests for modern orthodoxy. There is no sense in retreating into ecclesiastic silos, playing pre-modern word games, or burying our head in the historical sand. Too much has happened, too much has changed and there is too much on the line.
  • They are not houses to live in. They are lean-tos (temporary shelters) that were erected along the way. We are still to continue our journey and travel on in our day – in the world that is – and not set up camp in the imagined past.

This is my word picture. The Creeds are lean-tos. They are not museums designed to preserve nor are the cathedrals to be maintained. They are temporary shelters – built with the best materials that were available at the time and in that place. They aren’t blueprints of how every shelter needs to be constructed nor are they houses to be reinforced and guarded. They fulfilled their purpose and provided shelter on the journey.

Christian who get protective of or defensive about the creeds are like people who are hiking with their family, build lean-to out of love for the family and then get mad at the family when it is time to leave the lean-to and continue hiking.

Or like people who love watching birds so they knock out a wall in their house to install a whole side of windows and sky-lights for bird watching. But then they become so fixated on cleaning the glass then they stopped watching the birds and actually get annoyed at the birds for dropping what birds are prone to drop.

The creeds are great. I am so thankful them as historic documents, as developmental snapshots and as contextual expressions.
What I am not so thrilled about is people who get nasty about them, defensive or aggressive. I think it is so odd that they are about things like God’s love and divine relationship… but that they can make someone behave so unloving and take them out of relationship!

I like the creeds. I just don’t like what they do to people who take them too seriously. Like lean-tos, they served their purpose. They were great. Time to move on. We are still on a journey.

Is it just me?
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p.s.  I meant to include this in the post but forgot. I have since said it 3 comments – so I decided to add it.

“Like the book of Revelation and the Creeds -  we should attempt to do for our culture and day what they were attempting to do for their culture and day.”

 

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