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Comment on Bananas, Bullies and the Bible – you can’t start in the middle by The Brothers Speak Out: Responses to Masculine Christianity – Eric Clapp 3.0

The Brothers Speak Out: Responses to Masculine Christianity – Eric Clapp 3.0 — Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:45:05 +0000

[...] Bo Sanders: “Bananas, Bullies, and the Bible – You Can’t Start in the Middle” “Like Ray Comfort and his banana, John Piper ends up making the opposite point than he wanted to! Comfort intended to exalt the original design but instead highlighted human cultivation, influence and adaption. Piper desired to show how God has made us but instead showed how we have made God.” [...]

Comment on Occupy Theology: Marx and Whitehead by Todd

Todd — Wed, 08 Feb 2012 21:29:45 +0000

Bo (and Tripp and Jeremy),

Enjoyed Claremont. I have a number of favorite podcasts. But, I must confess, after listening live and now listening again, this may be my newest favorite.

Thanks for getting this one up first.

Peace.
Todd

Comment on Bananas, Bullies and the Bible – you can’t start in the middle by Headless Unicorn Guy

Headless Unicorn Guy — Wed, 08 Feb 2012 20:15:04 +0000

P.S. Comfort’s demonstration of how God designed the banana to fit the human mouth is right up there with the Unintentional Gay/Slashfic Setups of all time.

Comment on Bananas, Bullies and the Bible – you can’t start in the middle by Headless Unicorn Guy

Headless Unicorn Guy — Wed, 08 Feb 2012 20:13:46 +0000

It’s like how a lot of evangelicals view the Bible. Judging by the way they talk about the Bible, they start with the 66 books hand-picked by the Council to be published into one book… — Travis Mamone

No, they talk about the Bible like the 66 books were dictated word-for-word by God. How does this differ from the origin story of the Koran except God dictated it in Kynge Jaymes Englyshe instead of Meccan Arabic?

I thought of Victorian England and the nobility’s sense of entitlement as being god-ordained – looking at a human institution and retrojecting it back into God’s order of creation. — Tom Eggebein

“The Victorians thought that history ended well — because it ended with the Victorians.”
– G.K.Chesterton (a Victorian himself)

Comment on Occupy Theology: Marx and Whitehead by Marx, Monsters, And Markets | Homebrewed Theology

Marx, Monsters, And Markets | Homebrewed Theology — Wed, 08 Feb 2012 19:28:34 +0000

[...] Last week I attended the Emergent Village Theological Conversation on Process Theology in Claremont, California. Two of the sessions focused on process thought and economics, one by John Cobb on “Economism – The new global religion”, the other by Tripp Fuller and Jeremy Fackenthal titled “Occupy Theology – Marx and Whitehead“. [...]

Comment on Rachel Responses by Matthew Hamilton

Matthew Hamilton — Wed, 08 Feb 2012 15:36:58 +0000

I have posted a response here: http://hamiltonmj1983.wordpress.com/2012/02/08/omnipotence/

Thank you for a great discussion point! Sorry that I am so late coming to the table, but I just ran across this as one of the most popular posts in Rachel Held Evans’ monthly summaries! Ha!

Comment on Rachel Responses by Omnipotence « Thoughts in the Dark

Omnipotence « Thoughts in the Dark — Wed, 08 Feb 2012 15:31:35 +0000

[...] I ran across an interesting blog post from last month, where Tripp Fuller and Bo Sanders guest posted on Rachel Held Evans’ blog. The post is also found on their blog, Homebrewed Christianity. [...]

Comment on Bananas, Bullies and the Bible – you can’t start in the middle by Bananas, Bullies and the Bible – you can’t start in the middle | Dan's (Sur)f Log

Wed, 08 Feb 2012 03:10:39 +0000

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Comment on Bananas, Bullies and the Bible – you can’t start in the middle by Hj

Hj — Wed, 08 Feb 2012 01:27:55 +0000

Thank you, I thought something similar, but you articulate it clearly!

Comment on Occupy Theology: Marx and Whitehead by Bo Sanders

Bo Sanders — Tue, 07 Feb 2012 22:03:25 +0000

Nithin, I think you are right. I am almost positive that modular organizations are the future of theological ed. I went to one called Arrow Leadership that was accredited and that you could do for a degree. My nephew went to an unaccredited one at a church. -Bo

Comment on Occupy Theology: Marx and Whitehead by Nithin Thompson

Nithin Thompson — Tue, 07 Feb 2012 21:27:46 +0000

It would be great to do theological education like YWAM, where they have modules for a few months on different topics and support is raised to pay for it. Unfortunately, none of it is accredited which is what makes things “legitimate.” Yet, this could be the future of theology.

Comment on Undercover Boss, or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Listen to Karl Marx by Occupy Theology: Marx and Whitehead

Occupy Theology: Marx and Whitehead — Tue, 07 Feb 2012 06:03:48 +0000

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Comment on Ready for the Road Trip? process prep by Corey

Corey — Tue, 07 Feb 2012 02:26:48 +0000

Someone please tell me there will be media available from this event!

Comment on Bananas, Bullies and the Bible – you can’t start in the middle by Mike Wood

Mike Wood — Mon, 06 Feb 2012 19:10:33 +0000

“You can’t verbalize the way things are – which is a result of the way things have been – as proof that this is how it should always be.” <– I suppose (as has been demonstrated in history) you can… if you want to be a bully (have power, control & dominate people, etc)

Comment on Bananas, Bullies and the Bible – you can’t start in the middle by Tom Eggebeen

Tom Eggebeen — Mon, 06 Feb 2012 18:58:58 +0000

Thanks for this post – excellent insights into how Piper’s mind works. I thought of Victorian England and the nobility’s sense of entitlement as being god-ordained – looking at a human institution and retrojecting it back into God’s order of creation. Hence, btw, the nobility’s resistance to Darwin’s notion that nature changes, and that society might change as well. And with the nobility, stood much of the Church of England.

Comment on Bananas, Bullies and the Bible – you can’t start in the middle by tad delay

tad delay — Mon, 06 Feb 2012 18:48:15 +0000

Tea Party Jesus does John Piper:
http://teapartyjesus.tumblr.com/post/17096189999

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Christianity Uncorked: Caputo, McLaren, Clayton, and cabernet- Tad DeLay — Mon, 06 Feb 2012 18:18:33 +0000

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Comment on TNT: Eschatology – Resurrection call and response by Greg

Greg — Mon, 06 Feb 2012 17:49:34 +0000

As far as a couple of comments in the discussion:
I am a little confused as to how, when talking about Jesus, we are supposed to STOP looking for the differences and accept that he was jewish (and as far as we know never converted); yet when discussing the hebrew scriptures we are to BE SURE to look for the differences from the socio-religious context for the important stuff. It sounds a little dis-ingenuous to use the exact opposite argument in these two contexts. What am I missing?

I am also a little confused by the statement that the caananite conquest didn’t come with its own commentary. God told them to do it, and wasn’t happy with them when the weren’t zealous enough. You said you would be shocked if they didn’t THINK god told them to do it. So are Isaiah 58:10 and Ezekiel 18:6&7, Amos 5:24 just tacked on to suit a particular POV of a particular scribe? How do we decide which to honor and which to “learn from” as relics of a tribal viewpoint?

It is tough for me to buy into the cautionary tale POV regarding the conquest of caanan. You would have to parse through and try to excise, as later theological positioning, God’s commands from the narrative. Easy to separate the cautionary tale from later bolstering of the theology of the day with Job, but a pretty daunting challenge in this case. I have been wondering lately if, given the timeline for assembly of the written scriptures and doubts about caananite conquest historicity in the archeological community, perhaps the caananite conquest tale was an attempt to justify territorial claims of the Israelite society over and against others in the region perhaps pre-exile but certainly post. IF that is the case what do we try and learn from it?

Comment on Bananas, Bullies and the Bible – you can’t start in the middle by Lauren Burton

Lauren Burton — Mon, 06 Feb 2012 17:44:16 +0000

This reminds me of the movie Saved!, a film in which a girl gets pregnant at an evangelical Christian school.

There is a conversation that takes place between a teenage boy in a wheelchair, who was found by his sister after hurting his back falling out of a tree, and the only Jewish student at the school–who only attends the institution because she has been expelled from the others. The girl says, “So, your sister found you after the accident?” and the boy replies, “Yeah, she calls it “God’s Miracle that Saved My Life.” The girl laughs for a moment, and says point-blank, “Wouldn’t the real miracle be you not falling out of the tree in the first place?”

Comment on Bananas, Bullies and the Bible – you can’t start in the middle by Bo Sanders

Bo Sanders — Mon, 06 Feb 2012 17:37:37 +0000

It funny that you would bring that up. On the one hand, your are entirely correct to include that as another example of not knowing where something comes from and just ‘starting’.

but I also want to make clear that as an evangelical, I have no interest in adding to or taking away books from the canon. I like the 66 that we have. I just want to interact with them better -Bo

Comment on TNT: Eschatology – Resurrection call and response by Greg

Greg — Mon, 06 Feb 2012 17:02:59 +0000

I have a site usability comment, I had to google “theology nerd throwdown” to find this post, I couldn’t find it by navigating links in your site. If you are going to split the feeds for TNT and the interviews you might have to manually do some linkages.

Comment on Bananas, Bullies and the Bible – you can’t start in the middle by Travis Mamone

Travis Mamone — Mon, 06 Feb 2012 15:37:06 +0000

It’s like how a lot of evangelicals view the Bible. Judging by the way they talk about the Bible, they start with the 66 books hand-picked by the Council to be published into one book, without any regard for all of the other holy scriptures used throughout history (Apocrypha, anyone?).

Comment on Women you’ll Want to Read by Julie Clawson

Julie Clawson — Mon, 06 Feb 2012 15:27:23 +0000

The whole Piper thing is just sad. What is so messed up in him that he feels he must muzzle half of the people of God is beyond me. I like your list. Here are a few women that that have pushed me and shaped how I think about faith/the church/theology –
Struggle to be the Sun Again – Chung Hyun Kyung
The Politics of God – Kathryn Tanner
Introducing African Women’s Theology – Mercy Amba Oduyoye
Postcolonial Imagination and Feminist Theology – Kwok Pui-lan
The Face of the Deep – Catherine Keller
I Am My Body – Elisabeth Moltmann-Wendel
Postcolonial Feminist Interpretation of the Bible – Musa Dube
In Memory of Her – Elisabeth Schussler Fiorenza
Liberating Tradition – Kristine LaCelle-Peterson

Comment on Quest for the Living God with Elizabeth Johnson: Homebrewed Christianity ep. 17 by Bananas, Bullies and the Bible - you can’t start in the middle

Bananas, Bullies and the Bible - you can’t start in the middle — Mon, 06 Feb 2012 15:26:38 +0000

[...] If you are looking for a god read, I suggest Elizabeth Johnson’s She Who Is – you can listen to one of our interviews with her [here] [...]

Comment on Women you’ll Want to Read by David R. Henson

David R. Henson — Mon, 06 Feb 2012 11:20:25 +0000

I nominate Jarena Lee, too! Here’s a quick summary (http://www.patheos.com/blogs/davidhenson/2012/02/jarena-lee-the-pioneering-female-preacher-you-never-heard-about/) and here is a link to her autobiography (http://www.umilta.net/jarena.html)