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Christian Social Justice and “the Common Good”?

April 30, 2013 by Deacon Bill 3 Comments

I’m a big admirer and supporter of Sojourners Magazine and its editor-in-chief Jim Wallis, who was just interviewed on the Homebrewed Christianity Culture Cast again, and just released a new book entitled On God’s Side: What Religion Forgets and Politics hasn’t Learned about Serving the Common Good.  Jim gets this phrase from a famous Abraham Lincoln statement.  It’s been around since antiquity and perhaps finds its roots in Greek political philosophy, but does this idea of “the common good” invoke an adequate Christian social ethic?

Last week the question was raised by several Missio Alliance folks about whether Jim Wallis and Jerry Falwell are two sides of the same coin.  At first I had a hard time not finding the mere suggestion of this to be ridiculous, but then I thought it nonetheless might be a good segue into a related discussion.  If for further argument’s sake one grants that this is true, then I would submit that Gustavo Gutierrez and John Howard Yoder are two sides of the same coin as well (see the diagram below).

One concern is that “common good” language might just be repackaged utilitarianism or Christian realism, in the modern tradition of doing the greatest good for the greatest number.  I’ve benefited significantly in recent years from the work of Hauerwasian-leaning political theologians who might say this, like William Cavanaugh or Daniel Bell Jr, whose latest book, Economy of Desire, I recommend.  Here is an interview with him.

The question that always arises for folks like this seems to be something like, whose good?  On whose terms?  This question is one of the main reasons post-liberals and Anabaptists are reluctant to engage in politics in a formal, and what they would call, coercive manner.  Their epistemological issues are varying and complex, but without getting into a discussion of the limits of language, perhaps a pithy summary of this position might be that Christians should only enter into dialogue and commerce in a Christian way and for Christian reasons.  Does this preclude interreligious justice efforts or any kind of public collaboration on legislation in the public square?

In keeping with the spirit of last week’s exchanges regarding Subverting the Norm and Missio Alliance and Geoff Holsclaw’s suggestion that we talk more about differences, I’d like to try out a way of “mapping” some of those differences.  In seminary I took a class with Roger Olson (Homebrewed interview here) entitled “Christian Social Justice” at the same time that I was enrolled in Marc Ellis’ (Homebrewed interview here) seminar on Liberation Theology.  While Olson’s class framed the discussion generally in terms of different views on capitalism and the morality of violence, Ellis seemed to me to be more intent on organizing the class around the themes of justice and religious identity and building community vs. empire.  I’ve tried to include these dimensions in the following graph: Christian Social Justice

For a brief summary of my understanding of what each quadrant represents, go here.

Kathryn Tanner is another political theologian who has influenced me.  She was interviewed on Homebrewed Christianity by Philip Clayton in 2011.  Her latest research deals with what Christianity can say about the global economy in light of the hyper-financialization of international markets and the recent Great Recession.  Here is something she said a few years ago in an article in the Christian Century about Christian theological and ethical responsibility today that has really stuck with me:

Enlightenment challenges to the intellectual credibility of religious ideas can no longer be taken for granted as the starting point for theological work now that theologians facing far more pressing worries than academic respectability have gained their voices here at home and around the globe.

Theologians are now primarily called to provide, not a theoretical argument for Christianity’s plausibility, but an account of how Christianity can be part of the solution, rather than simply part of the problem, on matters of great human moment that make a life-and-death difference to people, especially the poor and the oppressed.

I interpret Tanner to be saying here that, in the context and age of globalization, the proper Christian response is one that seeks to make a difference and be good news for the world and those living in it.  The criteria for this “good”, and what makes it “common” appears to be something like life instead of death, and addressing the needs of our shared material existence and limitations despite other differences — be they religious, cultural, geopolitical, etc.  Can this be done without sacrificing Christian character and identity?  In other words, do we have to speak the same language to work toward a common ethic? Is this materiality the best “public” or “common” ground?  I tend to think so.

At AAR this past November in Chicago, I got to interact with Christine Hinze and others in the ecclesiological investiations group who have attempted to offer Christian theological and ethical critiques of and responses to the financial crisis of 2008.  In my paper I tried to argue that North American emergent church ecclesiology provides a good model for Christian resistance to the financialization of capital that is always threatening to privatize profits and socialize losses. After thinking about this more lately, I wondered if the above diagram couldn’t be transposed ecclesiologically (note the change from “government” on the left to “culture”):

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Like the previous one, this graph is not sufficient to capture the diversity of ecclesial forms and perspectives in the North American landscape, as it doesn’t include many others such as Catholics, Pentecostals, the Eastern Orthodox Church and so on.  It also fails to consider the ethnic diversity of our ecclesial context.  Moreover, as we’ve seen, the labels of “emergent”, “missional”, and even “evangelical” are often more confusing than clarifying.  In light of the conversation last week though, I do think this layout can be helpful.

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Why Missio Alliance and Subverting the Norm need each other

April 23, 2013 by Deacon Bill 29 Comments

Giving his toast to Jacques Derrida during the Live Homebrewed Christianity “Theology of Rock” podcast at the Subverting the Norm conference earlier this month, Jack Caputo made the following comment: [Derrida belongs on the Mount Rushmore of Radical Theology because] “he saves us from the safety of religion.”

One week later someone tweeted the following quote from a talk by Scot McKnight at the Missio Alliance inaugural gathering: “a gospel of personal afterlife insurance is about my needs, not Jesus’ reign.”  Another tweet followed: “Jesus left a community, not a book or a rule.”missioalliance

In his response to Caputo’s keynote talk at Subverting the Norm, Tony Jones made a number of interesting comments as well, at least one of which is the impetus for this blog post:  He said, “Be loyal to this tribe.  We have a better version of the gospel than the regnant view of the gospel in the West today.  If our version of the gospel is to stand a chance, particularly among the “nones,” then we’ve got to stick together in spite of our doctrine/theological/philosophical differences.”

My contention here is not that these quotes (Caputo’s and McKnight’s) mean the same thing – based solely on the speakers, obviously they don’t – or that the differences between these two groups are unimportant or insignificant.  I do want to suggest though that there might be a common spirit shared between the groups captured by these two quotes.  To borrow from Peter Rollins, I think those represented at each of these conferences have rejected a Christianity of certainty and satisfaction and have instead turned to pursue a faith that is more honest, broken, communal, politically conscious, non-triumphalist, and in the end, more true to the basilea theou of peace, justice and reconciliation that Jesus announced.   

Part of the common mission seems to be something like the embodiment of a counter-narrative to the dominant ideologies of our time. (I like Walter Brueggemann’s terminology of these ideologies as technological-therapeutic-consumer-militarism.)  The quality of scholarship critiquing the worship and subsuming power of global capitalism on both sides is impressive. Then there is also a common mission, I think, to call out the false-consciousness of conservative and neo-reformed evangelicalism that takes the form of nationalism (violence), bibliolatry (certitude) and/or soteriocentrism (satisfaction).  Missio Alliance leader David Fitch is especially helpful in naming these master signifiers (see my review of his book The End of Evangelicalism?). Rushmore_Poster_rev0

Moreover, I think both movements clearly renounce Christendom and embrace the challenge that is religious and non-religious pluralism.  Lastly, while I’m sure there’s more to be mentioned, both conferences celebrated ethnic diversity and the empowerment of their female leaders (Cherith Fee-Nordling and Jo Saxton for Missio, and Namsoon Kang, Katharine Sarah Moody and Melinda McGarrah Sharp for STN, among others).

These are not small points of agreement.

There are definite theological differences between these two camps, as already acknowledged.  Some members of the groups won’t even be interested in this conversation.  But it does not follow that there is a clean separation on all fronts. As Brian McLaren argues in his latest book, Christ-centeredness, or the integrity of a distinctive Christian identity on the one hand, and radical hospitality on the other hand, are not mutually exclusive. Rather, it’s a tension Christians must live in, however difficult, and that’s why I’m convinced the conferences need each other.

And despite suspicions to the contrary (see Doug Pagitt’s interview of Fitch and Holsclaw about their latest book), not all Emergent types and Mainline Protestants have low christologies, just like not all Missio leaders are Hauerwasians (Roger Olson who also spoke at the conference is case-in-point) or unwilling to bless gay marriage.  It’s easy to see which side is more inclined to what – Missio to Christian identity and STN to inclusivity – but I suspect that these inclinations can be explained to some extent by each group’s respective fidelity to divergent contexts.  If Missio is committed to responding to the disillusionment with the conservative and neo-reformed attempt to reduce the gospel to “justification,” STN is addressing the broader and more political context of concern for social, eco-justice and epistemological/post-modern fragmentation. Both contexts must be attended to!

I’m frustrated by what I’ve read recently from some leaders of Missio like Fitch and Holsclaw in their published and unpublished remarks about figures like Rob Bell and other emergent folks in general.  They’ve constructed a false binary, I think, between the neo-reformed crowd and emergents, by mistakenly collapsing the latter into Mainline Protestantism.  At the same time, I can understand Fitch and Holsclaw’s frustration with the alleged theological vacuity of emergent church figures in the past decade.  SquareDesign_ver1

And yet I’m considering both of these frustrations, attempting to gaze toward the future with a bigger picture in mind, and venturing the observation that these frustrations are nonetheless relatively inconsequential compared to what can be held together.  Why? Because I believe these gatherings and networks exist at least in part for the sake of furthering a story and a faith that actually brings good news to the poor, the planet and the LGBT community – to use the Homebrewed slogan – but that does not forfeit its Christian distinctiveness in the process.

Can we get on board with that?  I’m genuinely curious and hopeful.

Bill is an adjunct professor of theology and ethics at the University of the Incarnate Word, a PhD candidate in philosophy of religion at Claremont Graduate University and has worked as a youth and campus minister at Baylor University and Santa Clarita United Methodist Church.  He and his wife Whitney live in Austin, TX, and you can connect with him on his blog at wawalker.com or on twitter @bwalkeriii.

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If Aquinas Were Around Today

January 22, 2013 by Bo Sanders 8 Comments

Thomas Aquinas comes up a lot these days.*   Some of it is generated by a small community of passionate people who want to reclaim his project. Thomas_Aquinas_by_Fra_Bartolommeo

This, in turn, prompts some – such as John Caputo in an interview with us – to come up with a legendary one liner that accused this group of ‘retreating into the hills of Thomism’. 

The most insightful address I have encountered recently comes from Umberto Eco in the book Travels in Hyperreality. In a chapter entitled “In Praise of St. Thomas” he outlines how Thomas interacted with his world and how he navigated the difficulties of his inherited order (mendicants) , his Age, and his own limitations.  Three passages from the 1974 essay that inspired me were:

  - Thomas, was neither a heretic not a revolutionary. He has been called a “concordian”. For him it was a matter of reconciling the new science with the science of revelation, changing everything so that nothing would change. 

- Nobody ever said that Thomas was Galileo. Thomas simply gave the church a doctrinal system that put her in agreement with the natural world. 

-  So it is surely licit to ask what Thomas Aquinas would do if he were alive today; but we have to answer that, in any case, he would not write another Summa Theologica. He would come to terms with Marxism, with the physics of relativity, with formal logic, with existentialism and phenomenology. 

He would comment not on Aristotle, but on Marx and Freud. Then he would change his method of argumentation, which would become a bit less harmonious and conciliatory.

And finally he would realize that one cannot and must not work out a definitive, concluded system, like a piece of architecture, but a sort of mobile system, a loose-leaf Summa, because in his encyclopedia of the sciences the notion of historical temporariness would have entered.

I can’t say whether he would still be a Christian.

But let’s say he would be.

I know for sure that he would take part in the celebrations of his anniversary only to remind us that it is not a question of deciding how still  to use what he thought, but to think new things.

Or at least to learn from him how you can think cleanly, like a (person) of your own time.

After which I wouldn’t want to be in his shoes.

This actually is an approach to the past that has some general applicability. I have heard it said that best way to honor founders of any movement is not to simply repeat what they did but do the kind of thing they did in their time for our time. Aquinas

As a contextual theologian, I have said (over and over again) that honoring the apostles and the early church’s mothers and fathers is not in simple doing what they did in their culture – but in doing in our culture the types of things they did in theirs.

Rote repetition – regurgitation is not honoring. It is closer to idolatry. 

Repeating in the 21st century what they said in the 8th century isn’t as faithful as one might like it to imagine. This is due to the nature of our message. Our message is incarnational and thus our models and methods must match that!

The container must match the content. 

I’m not that into Aquinas. I think it’s because of the approach of those who are a little too into him.  But if they were to change to Eco’s approach and engage contemporary science and incorporate real scholarship, then I might get into Aquinas as well.

I just have no interest in reclaiming a romantically imagined version of the past. I am very interested in engaging the living now and emerging near future.

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* Saint Thomas Aquinas, (1225 – 1274), also Thomas of Aquin or Aquino, was an Italian Dominican priest, and an immensely influential philosopher and theologian in the tradition of scholasticism, within which he is also known as the “Dumb Ox”.
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Hipsters and Zombies as the end of civilization

December 3, 2012 by Bo Sanders 8 Comments

Last week I went down to Tripp’s office to work on some stuff for the podcast. I walked in while he was talking to Jordan and Christian from the Homebrewed Culture Cast. They were recording a segment about zombies and the Walking Dead series.

The conversation was great – you will really enjoy that episode when it comes out. Toward the end, Christian asked about why the surge in popularity of zombies and vampires. After Tripp’s market driven answer (which was sweet) I jumped in with a theory that I wanted to elaborate on here.

I quoted Ballard in Kingdom Come

Consumerism rules, but people are bored. They’re out on the edge, waiting for something big and strange to come along. … They want to be frightened. They want to know fear. And maybe they want to go a little mad.
- Ballard, Kingdom Come

When we live in a time when like ours, where the as-is structures are assumed and there is a certain giveness to the system, we view them as final applications. Nation States and capitalism are just two areas where this can be seen (Tripp explains this well in the interview).
In this consumerism as culture humans are defined by their external signs and symbols. These become signifiers that form more than our image, they project our identity. It is in this cul-de-sac and the end of the wide road of consuming that the monotony of round and round sameness becomes soul-numbing. You can see why things on the fringes, that lurk in the dark and just below the surface begins to titillate and become attractive.

We are bored.

Alasdair MacIntyre (who asses the situation so well in After Virtue – even though I disagree with his solution) says this about what the church becomes

nothing but a meeting place for individual wills, each with its own set of attitudes and preferences and who understand that world solely as an arena for the achievement of their own satisfaction, who interpret reality as a series of opportunities for their enjoyment and for whom the last enemy is boredom.

Our fractured and contentious societal situation is inflamed by (at least) three cultural elements: consumerism, globalization, and pluralism. The first is the disposition of individuals within a society, the second impacts the proximity of different communities, and the third affects the posture when approaching a disparate series of relationship for communities.

Consumerism is hyperbolized in an examination of Hipster ‘culture’ by Douglas Haddow entitled “Hipster: The Dead End of Western Civilization”.* Haddow provides a vicious critique when he says:

An artificial appropriation of different styles from different eras, the hipster represents the end of Western civilization – a culture lost in the superficiality of its past and unable to create any new meaning. Not only is it unsustainable, it is suicidal. While previous youth movements have challenged the dysfunction and decadence of their elders, today we have the “hipster” – a youth subculture that mirrors the doomed shallowness of mainstream society.

It this both the dislocation of generational continuity and the isolation of consumerist aesthetics that are troubling about the brand obsessed and all too self-aware ironic sensibilities that alert one to the incredible disenchantment and disassociation of the youth culture. It is these very same consumerist influences and institutions that give rise to their embodied expression and vague angst that manifests in such irresponsible yet elaborate demonstrations of the Hipster’s intentionally senseless displays.

Ironically, we have more stuff and access to more toys, information, and treats than ever before … but we are soul-numb bored. This is the danger of thinking that what we have is everything in it’s final form. That our representative democracy, that our free-market economy, that our United Nations are the pinnacle and the end of history.

This is why that Zizek quote about living in the end times is so great – that it is easier for most Christians today to imagine the end of the world than it is to imagine living in some other economy beside capitalism.

Hipsters and the suburban fascination with zombies and vampires … are trying to tell us something.

* The subtitle of this article says “We’ve reached a point in our civilization where counterculture has mutated into a self-obsessed aesthetic vacuum. So while hipsterdom is the end product of all prior countercultures, it’s been stripped of its subversion and originality. “
Mark Douglas Haddow, “Hipster: The Dead End of Western Civilization | Adbusters Culturejammer Headquarters”, n.d., http://www.adbusters.org/magazine/79/hipster.html

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Jack Caputo Asks… “Does God Exist?”

November 12, 2012 by Tripp Fuller 2 Comments

Get some Jack Caputo ‘unfiltered’ from his live podcast “Get Lost in Order to Get Saved!”  We don’t just want you to watch Deacons, we want you to respond with your own YouTube video.  It is our hope this may turn into a fun way to converse beyond the comment sections about particular parts of our podcasts.


Homebrewed Christianity is excited to take things ‘unfiltered’ on SoGo Media.  Today SoGo is going public as a new kind of Christian television network that uses the exploding platform of YouTube to distribute exclusive videos from an impressive collective of progressive Christian voices, as well as curates the religion and spirituality niche on YouTube. Sogo is short for “social Gospel,” a play on words that also refers to “social media + Gospel message,” the Gospel (or “good news”) of the kingdom of God that Jesus proclaimed.

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Emergent Village Theological Conversation Audio Collection

September 21, 2012 by Tripp Fuller 4 Comments

Homebrewed Christianity was thrilled to put together the Emergent Village Theological Conversation at Claremont School of Theology.  We featured conversation with three different Process theologians.  Monica Coleman, John Cobb, & Philip Clayton all shared and engaged with a host of local practitioners.  The conference audio has all been edited and released over the last few months and here are links to all the sessions in one place.

Share it, enjoy it, and get your Process on!

 

What is Process Theology? Let Monica A. Coleman Tell You!

Fully Human, Fully Divine, & All Process! Christology with John Cobb

John Cobb & Tom Oord go Emerging with Jesus

Philip Clayton on The Resurrection, Trinity, Eschatology & the Predicament of Belief

Secularizing Christianity with John Cobb

Bonus Track: John Cobb with Lisa Domke and Scott Jones

Womanist Theology Goes Process with Monica Coleman

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Biblical Womanhood & the End of Identity Politics from the Wild Goose Festival [podcast ep. 165]

September 21, 2012 by Tripp Fuller 6 Comments

You better buckle your theological safety belt because this is gonna get wild!  In this episode from the Wild Goose Festival you will heart Rachel Held Evans, Daniel Kirk, & Brian Ammons (here’s Brian’s ‘too gay’ chapter HBC published). We discuss Rachel’s upcoming book, the word ‘Biblical,’ womanhood, manhood, the story of scripture, identity politics, sexuality debates, and much more.

The other half of the evening was this conversation with Brian McLaren & Philip Clayton & it was awesome.

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We want to thank CST for being a co-sponsor of the 2012 Wild Goose West Fest in Corvallis,Oregon.
They showed up to serve, with a comfy couch and shady spot for weary goslings.  They recently launched a new year-long social media art project called “What’s Your Story”, which sponsored the talk you’re about to hear! Connect with the project at whatsyourstory.cst.edu. Check out their pinterest page, Doug Pagitt and Bruce Reyes-Chow’s video contributions.

 

 

 

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Jesus Moses Buddha Mohammed McLaren and Clayton at the Goose

September 13, 2012 by Bo Sanders 10 Comments

This week Brian McLaren’s new book Why Did Jesus, Moses, the Buddha and Mohammed Cross the Road? Christian Identity in Multi-Faith World was released. We had a chance to sit down with Brian last week at the Wild Goose West and chat with him about his newest project.

Brian has recently been appointed to the Board of Trustees at Claremont School of Theology so we decided to pair him with The Dean – Philip Clayton for this Theology Nerd Throwdown. (Philip is the author of The Predicament of Belief)

We want to thank CST for being a co-sponsor of the 2012 Wild Goose West Fest in Corvallis,Oregon.
They showed up to serve, with a comfy couch and shady spot for weary goslings.

They recently launched a new year-long social media art project called “What’s Your Story”, which sponsored the talk you’re about to hear! Connect with the project at whatsyourstory.cst.edu. Check out their pinterest page, Doug Pagitt and Bruce Reyes-Chow’s video contributions.

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Peter Rollins & Diana Butler Bass… LIVE in LA Monday 7/23!!

July 21, 2012 by Tripp Fuller 18 Comments
Homebrewed Christianity Presents…

Peter Rollins

It’s Not the Size of the Wand that Matters, Its the Magic That’s in it

UPDATE: JUST ADDED…Diana Butler Bass

Practicing Christianity After Religion

Monday July 23rd Los Angeles will be busting a move as Peter Rollins uses his magic wand for a LIVE taping of the Homebrewed Christianity podcast.  During the conversation Rollin’s philosophical skills will demonstrate his love for the ‘how’ over the ‘what’ of wand work belief.

As if St. Nick arranged providential podcast hook ups… Diana Butler Bass will also be recording an episode of the podcast live. YES that means the very same audience will get to experience TWO podcasts by TWO amazing thinkers on the very same evening. If you haven’t signed up yet DO IT or St. Nick may think you are ungrateful for the podcast Christmas in July!

Westwood United Methodist Church will be hosting the podcast.  Doors will open just before @7pm.  If you are awesome you can join us at ***Info Comes IN email Sunday PM for registrants*** for some grub, brews, and convo prior to the show @530pm.

GET YOUR TICKET HERE ($15)

You can check out Pete’s previous visits…Bootlegged Christianity, What Would Paul Do?, Insurrection, & Giving Up Atheism for Lent.   Diana set download records earlier this year with her visit to the podcast Christianity After Religion!

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Process Theology in the Church

July 14, 2012 by Tripp Fuller 8 Comments

What happens when a Process theologian plants a church?  How does relational theology impact the way you organize worship gatherings or church structures?  Can there be a straight up real deal Process based church?  In this final special episode from the Emergent Village theological conversation you hear practicing Process ministers with Phds.

In this episode Bruce Epperly, Jeanyne Slettom, and Monica A. Coleman share about their Process theological wisdom as ministers who do ministry.  There is discussion of preaching, worship, the arts, and pastoral care…then some Q/A on a variety of theological topics.  Get ready for some fun and don’t forget to check out the other episodes from the Emergent Village theological conversation.

* Process & Faith

* Brea Congregational (UCC) Church (Jeanyne Slettom’s Process Church)

* Ask John Cobb a Question
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