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		<title>Occupy Theology: Marx and Whitehead</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In this special episode Deacon Jeremy Fackenthal &#38; Tripp Fuller talk Marx and Whitehead at the 2012 Emergent Village Theological Conversation for 2012. The &#8220;Inverse Theology&#8221; that is referenced is from Walter Benjamin and Theodore Adorno. Also referenced is the popular blog from last month &#8220;Undercover Boss&#8221; by Stephen Keating ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this special episode Deacon Jeremy Fackenthal &amp; Tripp Fuller talk Marx and Whitehead at the 2012 Emergent Village Theological Conversation for 2012.</p>
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<p>The &#8220;Inverse Theology&#8221; that is referenced is from <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_tc_2_0?rh=i%3Astripbooks%2Ck%3AWalter+Benjamin&amp;keywords=Walter+Benjamin&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1328592888&amp;sr=8-2-ent&amp;field-contributor_id=B000AP9H8Q" target="_blank">Walter Benjamin </a>and <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Theodor-W.-Adorno/e/B000APUABO/ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_2?qid=1328592993&amp;sr=1-2-spell" target="_blank">Theodore Adorno</a>.</p>
<p><em>Also referenced is the popular blog from last month<a title="Undercover Boss, or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Listen to Karl Marx" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2012/01/19/undercover-boss-or-how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-listen-to-karl-marx/" target="_blank"> &#8220;Undercover Boss&#8221;</a> by Stephen Keating </em></p>
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		<itunes:subtitle>In this special episode Deacon Jeremy Fackenthal &#38; Tripp Fuller talk Marx and Whitehead at the 2012 Emergent Village Theological Conversation for 2012.

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Also referenced is the popular blog from last month &#8220;Undercover Boss&#8221; by Stephen Keating </itunes:summary>
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		<title>Undercover Boss, or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Listen to Karl Marx</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I don&#8217;t know about you, but when I go home, I get into politics debates with my family (what can I say? I&#8217;ve always been a radical). Recently, I&#8217;ve been listening to lectures by Richard Wolff on Marxism (yikes!) and he has given me a whole new way of understanding economics and politics. Then I watched [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/41KCCOt6UfL._SX500_.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-7550" title="41KCCOt6UfL._SX500_" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/41KCCOt6UfL._SX500_-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a>Well, I don&#8217;t know about you, but when I go home, I get into politics debates with my family (what can I say? I&#8217;ve always been a radical). Recently, I&#8217;ve been listening to lectures by <a href="http://rdwolff.com/" target="_blank">Richard Wolff</a> on Marxism (yikes!) and he has given me a whole new way of understanding economics and politics. Then I watched a show called <a href="http://www.cbs.com/shows/undercover_boss/" target="_blank">Undercover Boss</a> and I think I threw up in my mouth a little bit. The show demonstrated what&#8217;s wrong with America.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what happened in this week&#8217;s <a href="http://www.cbs.com/shows/undercover_boss/video/" target="_blank">episode</a>: The CEO of Diamond Resorts puts on a (really bad) disguise and pretends to be a new hire at various jobs in the company. He works alongside receptionists, plumbers, etc. At the end of the show, he reveals to the people he worked with that he&#8217;s the CEO and then he gives the workers that he worked alongside a big bonus, like paying off their mortgage or a new truck. Super generous of him right!? I don&#8217;t think so, and here&#8217;s how Karl Marx showed me why:</p>
<p>Ok, let&#8217;s look at the idea of work more generally first. If we look around we can see that in every society there are people that work and people that don&#8217;t work (this isn&#8217;t necessarily bad, some of the people that don&#8217;t work are children, the elderly, etc.). In order to take care of the people that don&#8217;t work, the workers have to produce more than they need for themselves. The word that Marx used for that &#8220;more&#8221; is &#8220;surplus.&#8221; <strong>Surplus is the extra stuff that the workers produce that goes to take care of needs/wants that are not their own. </strong></p>
<p>For example: let&#8217;s say I have a small shoemaking business and at home I have a baby. In order to take care of the baby (who obviously can&#8217;t work), I have to make some shoes to sell to take care of myself and I have to keep making more shoes so that I can take care of my baby. Part of the money that I make from my labor of making shoes goes to me and part of it goes to my baby. Any of the money that comes from my labor that doesn&#8217;t go to me is called surplus (obviously, the surplus that goes to my baby is good!).</p>
<p>In the shoemaker example, I make the shoes and I choose to make extra shoes (in Marxist terms: I choose to produce surplus) so that I can take care of my baby. <strong>Notice, and this is key: As self-employed person, I&#8217;m in charge of my own surplus. </strong></p>
<p>Now, let&#8217;s say that I apply for a job at McDonald&#8217;s. Like everyone else, I want to &#8220;get paid what I&#8217;m worth!&#8221; But here&#8217;s the rub: we all know that McDonald&#8217;s will only pay me $10/hour as long as I am producing more than $10/hour worth of Big Macs to sell. If McDonald&#8217;s doesn&#8217;t make more than $10 off of my labor, then I&#8217;ll get laid off. This is true in all businesses that are organized in what Marx called a capitalist business structure. In other words: <strong>in a capitalist business, the worker does not get all the surplus from their labor. </strong>Capitalism is not a way of organizing government, it&#8217;s a way of organizing labor relationships in a business.</p>
<p>So McDonald&#8217;s makes money off of my labor, i.e., they get to keep part of my surplus and I have no say in what happens to it. Marx called this &#8220;exploitation.&#8221; Now, stick with me because it sounds inflammatory, but all it means is that in capitalism, the worker does not have control of their surplus. The caplitalist business keeps the worker&#8217;s surplus. It doesn&#8217;t matter if the worker is aware of this, or if you have a really nice boss with good intentions that pays you the &#8220;market rate.&#8221; It simply means that the worker doesn&#8217;t have any say over the surplus of their labor. In US corporations, it is the board of directors who decide what happens to the surplus (keep in mind the workers have no say in electing the board!). Thus, in capitalism, there is a built-in tension between the workers and the people who get the surplus. They must continually argue about how much or how little of the worker&#8217;s surplus that the owners keep. For example, every time you ask for a raise, you&#8217;re in essence asking to keep more of the surplus from your labor.</p>
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<p>Most people recognize the difference between these two types of businesses, even if we don&#8217;t have language for it: We praise entrepreneurs. <strong>We all want to &#8220;be our own boss&#8221; (translation: we want to have a say in the surplus from our labor). </strong></p>
<p>Back to Undercover Boss: the money that the CEO gave to those workers came out of the surplus that the workers themselves <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/karl-marx-hip.jpg"><img class=" wp-image-7551 alignright" title="karl-marx-hip" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/karl-marx-hip.jpg" alt="" width="314" height="220" /></a>produced. The whole show hides the fact that the only reason that the CEO can afford to pay off the mortgage or buy a truck for a couple workers is because he makes a profit off of all the workers. It doesn&#8217;t mean that the CEO is a bad person or has bad intentions, the business is set up that way. Every receptionist at Diamond Resorts brings in more money to the company than they are paid (or else they get laid off). Of that vast pool of surplus, the boss in the TV show paid back a little bit to the few featured workers out of the surplus of all the other workers. The owner/capitalist never gives the workers more money than the workers make for him because if he did, the company would go out of business!</p>
<p>As a Christian, I think that we should organize businesses in a way that&#8217;s collaborative and doesn&#8217;t have the built-in tension between workers and owners inherent in capitalism. There are other ways of organizing labor relationships. I think it only makes sense that workers should have a say over what happens to the surplus of their labor. For example, if businesses were set up so that workers got to vote about what happened to the profits from their company, then businesses would be more efficient, we could have less government intervention, workers would have a stake in their companies, people would have a reason to work hard. A co-op is an example of this. My wife used to work for a company in which all employees are part-owners of the company. Everyone gets an even share of the profits at year-end. Thus, everyone has an incentive and a real stake in the health and success of the company.</p>
<p>In capitalist businesses, relationships in the business are built on tension. As followers of Jesus, shouldn&#8217;t we strive for relationships built on collaboration and love? Maybe good ole Karl Marx can help us be better Christians after all.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/photo1.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-7553" title="photo" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/photo1-e1326995986779-225x300.jpg" alt="" width="225" height="300" /></a>Guest Post by Deacon Stephen Keating, </strong>a recent graduate of Fuller Theological Seminary who is busy currently applying to PhD programs.  He is also wise enough to know that &#8216;Theology Nerds are Sexy.&#8217;  #TrueStory</p>
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<p>If you&#8217;re interested in learning more, head on over to Dr. Wolff&#8217;s website: <a href="http://rdwolff.com/" target="_blank">http://rdwolff.com/</a> <wbr>or check out his book on the recent US financial crisis.<br />
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		<title>Why are Young Americans feeling so positive about Socialism?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Recently the Pew Poll Research Center performed a &#8216;Political Rhetoric Test&#8217; to discover that young Americans have an increasingly positive response to &#8216;socialism&#8217; and a declining one to &#8216;capitalism.&#8217;  I am interested in why y&#8217;all may think this is the case.  It&#8217;s important to note that a political rhetoric test has nothing to do with [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/newsweek-socialists_now.jpg"><img class="alignleft  wp-image-7507" title="newsweek-socialists_now" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/newsweek-socialists_now.jpg" alt="" width="270" height="323" /></a> Recently the <a href="http://www.people-press.org/2011/12/28/little-change-in-publics-response-to-capitalism-socialism/1/">Pew Poll Research Cente</a>r performed a &#8216;Political Rhetoric Test&#8217; to discover that young Americans have an increasingly positive response to &#8216;socialism&#8217; and a declining one to &#8216;capitalism.&#8217;  I am interested in why y&#8217;all may think this is the case.  It&#8217;s important to note that a political rhetoric test has nothing to do with the<a href="https://greenmountainscribes.wordpress.com/2012/01/03/the-pew-survey-are-americans-really-viewing-socialism-more-favorably/"> respondent actually having any clue </a>what &#8216;socialism,&#8217; capitalism,&#8217; &#8216;liberal,&#8217; &#8216;conservative&#8217; or &#8216;progressive&#8217; actually mean.  It is simply a way of gauging how one responds to the word when used so I wouldn&#8217;t make near as big of a deal of this as <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alexander-eichler">Alexander Eichler </a>at the Huffington Post who titled his post<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/29/young-people-socialism_n_1175218.html"> &#8220;Young People More Likely To Favor Socialism Than Capitalism,</a>&#8221; but the stats are the stats.</p>
<blockquote><p>“The poll, published Wednesday, found that while Americans overall tend to oppose socialism by a strong margin — 60 percent say they have a negative view of it, versus just 31 percent who say they have a positive view — socialism has more fans than opponents among the 18-29 crowd. Forty-nine percent of people in that age bracket say they have a positive view of socialism; only 43 percent say they have a negative view.”</p></blockquote>
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<p>So &#8216;socialism&#8217; being popular among young Americans doesn&#8217;t mean they have any clue what it means.  Surely some do but I think it may be the fact that for <strong>most young Americans we know our lives &#8211; regardless of our hard work &#8211; will not as a whole be as good or better than our parents.</strong>  So if &#8216;socialism&#8217; is the word for a different way of organizing our economic relationships as a country why not say &#8216;positive&#8217; when asked because &#8216;capitalism&#8217; has broken the promise of the American dream.</p>
<p><img class="alignleft" src="http://www.moneytrendsresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/obama-socialist1.jpg" alt="" width="202" height="302" /> Perhaps <strong>another reason &#8216;socialism&#8217; is growing in popularity is thanks to our growing outlandish political Right</strong> in the country.  I thought of this when a high school student told me he was a socialist and I said &#8220;What? Do you have any idea what that means or would mean for your family?&#8221;  He said, &#8220;Yeah, you want college to be affordable, healthcare available to all, and to go back to Clinton era taxes.  I mean that&#8217;s why everyone is upset at Obama and he&#8217;s a socialist.&#8221;  What if our hyper-polarizing rhetoric in America and in particular the socialist name calling on the Right is actually making an audience for the very idea they abhor?</p>
<p>Two theological asides.</p>
<p>1) If you look at just the poor and non-white stats our country is significantly critical of capitalism.  Should those on the underside of our system get a hearing from the church about the effects of our system on their lives and family?</p>
<p>2) &#8216;<a href="http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/28/liberal-unpopular-but-newer-progressive-label-gets-high-marks-in-poll/">Progressive</a>&#8216; is way more popular than &#8216;Liberal.&#8217;</p>
<blockquote><p>Public reactions to the word <em>progressive</em> are far more favorable than to the word <em>liberal</em>; two-thirds have a positive reaction to the former compared with just half for the latter. There is very little difference among Democrats – who view both terms favorably.  The largest difference is among Republicans most (55%) of whom have a positive reaction to the word <em>progressive</em>, and a negative (70%) reaction to the word <em>liberal</em>. (<a href="http://www.people-press.org/2011/12/28/little-change-in-publics-response-to-capitalism-socialism/1/">link)</a></p></blockquote>
<p>Does that mean liberal Christians should use progressive?  And why didn&#8217;t they ask about <a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/tonyjones/2011/08/08/im-an-incarnational-christian/">&#8216;Incarnational Christians</a>?&#8217;</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[The news is wild these days! Its almost as if there is a cultural shift underway! Let me just highlight 4 news stories from the past week: 1) The Pope: Gay marriage threatens humanity’s future 2) Pastor Joel Osteen to Oprah: Homosexuality Is Sin — But Gay People Will Get Into Heaven 3) Rick Santorum: A Straight Dad [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Pope-Benedict-XVI_6.jpg"><img class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-7474" title="VATICAN POPE" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Pope-Benedict-XVI_6-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a>The news is wild these days! Its almost as if there is a <em>cultural shift</em> underway!<br />
Let me just highlight 4 news stories from the past week:</p>
<p>1) The <a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/pope-gay-marriage-threatens-humanity-future-article-1.1003549" target="_blank">Pope: Gay marriage threatens humanity’s future</a></p>
<p>2) <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/pastor-joel-osteen-oprah-homosexuality-sin-gay-people-185334950.html" target="_blank">Pastor Joel Osteen to Oprah: Homosexuality Is Sin — But Gay People Will Get Into Heaven</a></p>
<p>3) <a href="http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/rick-santorum-a-straight-dad-in-prison-is-better-than-two-gay-dads-who-arent/" target="_blank">Rick Santorum: A Straight Dad In Prison Is Better Than Two Gay Dads Who Aren’t</a></p>
<p>4) Pastor <a href="http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/01/06/pastors-detailed-book-on-sex-divides-reviewers-sparks-controversy/?hpt=hp_c2" target="_blank">Mark Driscoll&#8217;s book on Marriage hits</a> the shelves</p>
<p>It is interesting that all four of these stories have come to my attention in the past week. What most people will focus on is whether there is a Bible verse to back up what they are saying or not.</p>
<p>What needs to be stated before that is two-fold:</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>All four are white males.</strong> Somebody may ask &#8220;are you implying that their gender or race somehow diminishes their right to speak with authority?&#8221; and I would answer &#8220;No &#8211; I just think that it is worth pointing it out in case later we wanted to examine how people come to power and in what ways authority is constructed, bestowed, or recognized.&#8221;</li>
<li><strong>When you have</strong> the leader of all the world&#8217;s catholics, a guy who is renowned for not speaking up about anything or coming down on anyone, a presidential candidate, and one of the most influential evangelical pastors in America saying the same thing&#8230; one of a couple of things has to cross your mind.</li>
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<blockquote><p>Either<br />
<strong>a)</strong> they are all sticking up for the truth or<br />
<strong>b)</strong> they are all sticking up for an antiquated perspective of the past</p></blockquote>
<p>The reason that this issue has grabbed my attention is that many are calling it &#8216;The Last Taboo&#8221;. In the past 2 centuries, the issues of race (civil rights) and gender (women&#8217;s lib) have advanced to the point the if anyone held an opinion from a century ago about either issue &#8211; the people around them would say &#8220;<em>what is wrong with you?&#8221;</em> or &#8220;<em>wake up man, its the 21st century.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>I asked <a title="Bo’s Big concern about the future of the church" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/06/23/bos-big-concern-about-the-future-of-the-church/" target="_blank">Tony Jones, Lauren Winner and Phyllis Tickle about this issues</a> last year.  Only<a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0801013135/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank"> Phyllis was willing</a> to tackle it.</p>
<p>No matter which side of this thing you are on, it is worth noting that the &#8216;last taboo&#8217; is predicted to be the worst and most vicious. <span style="color: #008000;">The problem with the <em>last</em> of anything is that when it is over &#8230; it is really over.</span>  We tackled the race issue, we overcame the gender barrier, and now the sexuality issue is front and center.  We can&#8217;t go back. This is the last taboo. Once we have dealt with this, there are no more big ones to fall. <em>This is kinda it.* </em></p>
<p>I just think that it is worth noting <strong>A)</strong> who is framing the conversation and <strong>B)</strong> who is charge of the information and how the process is to be handled. <span style="color: #008000;"> <em>There might be more going on here than simply the rightness or the wrongness of any given issue or the interpretation of 6 bible verses. </em></span></p>
<p><strong>This will most likely be decided in our lifetime. Denominations will split over it. The future of the faith will be challenged because of it. Like race and gender before it, history will evaluate how we participate in it.  </strong></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><em>* somebody might say &#8216;economics&#8217; or some form of disparity, but that is not really in the same category as it is not inherently value laden .</em></p>
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		<title>Peter Rollins &amp; Barry Taylor answer THE question &#8220;What Would Paul Do?&#8221; Ep. 129</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2012 01:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tripp Fuller</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;What Would Paul Do?&#8221;  That&#8217;s the question and Peter Rollins and Barry Taylor are here to answer it Biblically.  This is a seriously fun conversation from the Soularize cconference that I thought would be the perfect to share at the beginning of the year. For those who don&#8217;t read atheist political philosophy&#8230;Paul is back, popular, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/1233011090642image001111.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-7389" title="1233011090642image00111" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/1233011090642image001111-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a>&#8220;What Would Paul Do?&#8221;  That&#8217;s the question and<a href="http://peterrollins.net/"> Peter Rollins</a> and <a href="http://superflat.typepad.com/nevermindthebricolage/">Barry Taylor</a> are here to answer it Biblically.  This is a seriously fun conversation from <a href="http://www.soularize.net/">the Soularize c</a>conference that I thought would be the perfect to share at the beginning of the year.</p>
<p>For those who don&#8217;t read atheist political philosophy&#8230;Paul is back, popular, and getting all sorts of attention.  In our conversation we play out a number of these Pauline insights and then tackle a bunch of questions being asked in the church today.  If you are interested in the philosophical discussion there is no better place to begin than <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0253220831/?tag=homebrechrist-20"><em>St. Paul Among the Philosophers</em> </a>which is introduced and edited by Jack Caputo.  It includes chapters by Zizek and Badiou (philosophers) and then responses form Christian scholars from across the disciplines.</p>
<p><strong>Stuff We Discuss</strong>&#8230;Paul, Crucifixion, Resurrection, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/1451609000/?tag=homebrechrist-20">Pete&#8217;s new book</a>, <a href="http://hermetic.com/bey/taz_cont.html">Hakim Bey&#8217;s temporary autonomous zones</a>, K<a href="http://www.kesterbrewin.com/">ester Brewi</a>n, Occupy Wall Street <a href="http://gawker.com/5848556/condom-stores-latest-product-is-occupy-wall-street+themed">condoms</a> and T-Shirts, the Crisis of Capitalism, <a href="http://www.redletterchristians.org/">Red Letter Christianity</a>, the <a href="http://www.wesjones.com/eoh.htm">End of Histor</a>y, Identity Politics, Missional Progressive Christianity, why we aren&#8217;t &#8216;making disciples&#8217; in church, and if the church should still gather after the Death of the Big Other God.</p>
<p>Since this was recorded live in a room with a Keg of <a href="http://www.dalebrosbrewery.com/">Dale Brothers Bee</a>r there are the occasional bumps from me pumping the keg. I put some soft jams underneath to help cut down the noise from the note taking audience.</p>
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		<itunes:subtitle>&#8220;What Would Paul Do?&#8221;  That&#8217;s the question and Peter Rollins and Barry Taylor are here to answer it Biblically.  This is a seriously fun conversation from the Soularize cconference that I thought would be the perfect to share at th[...]</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>&#8220;What Would Paul Do?&#8221;  That&#8217;s the question and Peter Rollins and Barry Taylor are here to answer it Biblically.  This is a seriously fun conversation from the Soularize cconference that I thought would be the perfect to share at the beginning of the year.
For those who don&#8217;t read atheist political philosophy&#8230;Paul is back, popular, and getting all sorts of attention.  In our conversation we play out a number of these Pauline insights and then tackle a bunch of questions being asked in the church today.  If you are interested in the philosophical discussion there is no better place to begin than St. Paul Among the Philosophers which is introduced and edited by Jack Caputo.  It includes chapters by Zizek and Badiou (philosophers) and then responses form Christian scholars from across the disciplines.
Stuff We Discuss&#8230;Paul, Crucifixion, Resurrection, Pete&#8217;s new book, Hakim Bey&#8217;s temporary autonomous zones, Kester Brewin, Occupy Wall Street condoms and T-Shirts, the Crisis of Capitalism, Red Letter Christianity, the End of History, Identity Politics, Missional Progressive Christianity, why we aren&#8217;t &#8216;making disciples&#8217; in church, and if the church should still gather after the Death of the Big Other God.
Since this was recorded live in a room with a Keg of Dale Brothers Beer there are the occasional bumps from me pumping the keg. I put some soft jams underneath to help cut down the noise from the note taking audience.
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		<title>HBC Top 11 Blogs of 2011</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 15:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bo Sanders</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here are the top 11 blogs of Homebrewed Christianity in 2011  : 1. Theology Nerd Book Survey  2. That’s “Too Gay” – Brian Ammons’ Banned Chapter from Baptimergent 3. Your First Steps into Biblical Universalism… 4. 31 Reasons I Left Evangelicalism and Became a Progressive But Not a Liberal by Michael Camp 5. God Takes Sides….or When [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Here are the top 11 blogs of Homebrewed Christianity in 2011 <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/HBC.jpeg"><img class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-7227" title="HBC" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/HBC-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a> :</strong></p>
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1. <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/05/19/theology-nerd-book-survey/" target="_blank">Theology Nerd Book Survey </a></p>
<p>2. <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/03/02/thats-too-gay-brian-ammons-banned-chapter-from-baptimergent/" target="_blank">That’s “Too Gay” – Brian Ammons’</a> Banned Chapter from Baptimergent</p>
<p>3. <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/03/21/your-first-steps-into-biblical-universalism/" target="_blank">Your First Steps into Biblical Universalism</a>…</p>
<p>4. <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/12/04/31-reasons-i-left-evangelicalism-and-became-a-progressive-but-not-a-liberal/" target="_blank">31 Reasons I Left Evangelicalism and Became a Progressive But Not a Liberal</a> by Michael Camp</p>
<p>5. <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/07/14/god-takes-sides-or-when-karl-barth-was-right/" target="_blank">God Takes Sides….or When Karl Barth Was Right</a></p>
<p>6. <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2009/07/06/defining-the-secular-charles-taylor-pt-3/" target="_blank">Defining the Secular: Charles Taylor (pt. 3)</a> by Deacon Hall</p>
<p>7. <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/03/16/rob-bell-wins/" target="_blank">Rob Bell Wins </a></p>
<p>8. <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2010/10/16/the-classic-footprints-in-the-sand-poem-revisited/" target="_blank">The classic ‘Footprints in the Sand’ poem revisited</a></p>
<p>9. <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/02/28/are-you-a-bellian-or-piperian/" target="_blank">Are you a Bellian or Piperian?</a></p>
<p>10.<a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/07/14/a-big-difference-between-christianity-and-islam/" target="_blank"> a big difference between Christianity and Islam </a></p>
<p>11. <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/08/14/goosing-emergents-into-the-mainline/" target="_blank">Goosing Emergents into the Mainline</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Thank you all for your amazing participation and feedback &#8211; that was a wonderful year of conversation and theological brewing!</p>
<p><em>Let us know if you had a favorite that didn&#8217;t make the list.</em></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>From Chad, Tripp, and Bo &#8211; thanks for a great year, Brew On!  and don&#8217;t forget to share the brew.</p>
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		<title>Advent TNT Extravaganza</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 05:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bo Sanders</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tripp and Bo explore the season of Advent through song, story, and proleptic possibility. They wander through theological frameworks, eschatological expectations and process potential for a greater engagement. Translation: Tripp sings and then they talk about the meaning of the song &#8230; along with the week&#8217;s news through a theological lens.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tripp and Bo explore the season of Advent through song, story, and proleptic possibility.</p>
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<p>They wander through theological frameworks, eschatological expectations and process potential for a greater engagement.</p>
<p>Translation: Tripp sings and then they talk about the meaning of the song &#8230; along with the week&#8217;s news through a theological lens.</p>
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		<itunes:subtitle>Tripp and Bo explore the season of Advent through song, story, and proleptic possibility.

They wander through theological frameworks, eschatological expectations and process potential for a greater engagement.
Translation: Tripp sings and then they[...]</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Tripp and Bo explore the season of Advent through song, story, and proleptic possibility.

They wander through theological frameworks, eschatological expectations and process potential for a greater engagement.
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		<title>Waking Up to Community &amp; Empire with Marc Ellis</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 23:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bo Sanders</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dr. Marc Ellis is renowned thinker and a Jewish Liberation Theologian. In this interview with Bo &#38; Tripp  he speaks candidly about community, empire, Biblical scholarship, Israel, the Apostle Paul, Evangelics, and legendary people that he knew (like Dorothy Day). Marc Ellis is widely regarded as a prophetic voice and an original thinker. He is [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Ellis-pic-.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-7259" title="Ellis pic" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Ellis-pic--300x300.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="300" /></a>Dr. Marc Ellis is renowned thinker and a Jewish Liberation Theologian. In this interview with <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/about/" target="_blank">Bo &amp; Tripp</a>  he speaks candidly about community, empire, Biblical scholarship, Israel, the Apostle Paul, Evangelics, and legendary people that he knew (like Dorothy Day).</p>
<p>Marc Ellis is widely regarded as a prophetic voice and an original thinker. He is a Professor of History at Baylor University and <a href="http://www.baylor.edu/jewish_studies/index.php?id=33813" target="_blank">the Director of the Center for Jewish Studies</a>. He has authored many books including:</p>
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<li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0800697936/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Encountering the Jewish Future</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/1595584250/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Judiasm does not equal Israel: the Rebirth of the Jewish Prophetic  </a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/1932792007/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Toward a Jewish Liberation Theology</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000RXZRI0/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Practicing Exile </a></li>
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<h1><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; font-weight: normal;">He is also under a cloud of controversy right now! Please go to this website: <a href="https://www.change.org/petitions/ken-starr-president-of-baylor-university-stop-persecution-against-prof-marc-ellis" target="_blank"> https://www.change.org/petitions/ken-starr-president-of-baylor-university-stop-persecution-against-prof-marc-ellis</a> and sign the petition to protect his job and his right to speak freely! </span></h1>
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		<itunes:subtitle>Dr. Marc Ellis is renowned thinker and a Jewish Liberation Theologian. In this interview with Bo &#38; Tripp  he speaks candidly about community, empire, Biblical scholarship, Israel, the Apostle Paul, Evangelics, and legendary people that he knew ([...]</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Dr. Marc Ellis is renowned thinker and a Jewish Liberation Theologian. In this interview with Bo &#38; Tripp  he speaks candidly about community, empire, Biblical scholarship, Israel, the Apostle Paul, Evangelics, and legendary people that he knew (like Dorothy Day).
Marc Ellis is widely regarded as a prophetic voice and an original thinker. He is a Professor of History at Baylor University and the Director of the Center for Jewish Studies. He has authored many books including:

Encountering the Jewish Future
Judiasm does not equal Israel: the Rebirth of the Jewish Prophetic  
Toward a Jewish Liberation Theology
Practicing Exile 

He is also under a cloud of controversy right now! Please go to this website:  https://www.change.org/petitions/ken-starr-president-of-baylor-university-stop-persecution-against-prof-marc-ellis and sign the petition to protect his job and his right to speak freely! </itunes:summary>
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		<title>The Cross, Resurrection, Blood, and Church of Jesus: TNT Crossed Out</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 03:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bo Sanders</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In this hour long conversation Bo and Tripp take up the question &#8220;Is too much emphasis placed on the cross?&#8221;  Bo thinks that it is both out of proportion and ultimately unhelpful to place so much importance in this one symbol. Tripp think that it can be redeemed from those who have misused and misappropriated [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this hour long conversation Bo and Tripp take up the question &#8220;Is too much emphasis placed on the cross?&#8221;  Bo thinks that it is both out of proportion and ultimately unhelpful to place so much importance in this one symbol. Tripp think that it can be redeemed from those who have misused and misappropriated it. The debate <a title="Crossed Out – have we overdone the crucifixion?" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/11/15/crossed-out-have-we-overdone-the-crucifixion/" target="_blank">started with [this post]</a></p>
<p>In this episode we reference (among others) books by</p>
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<li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0664233473/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Andrew Sung-Park</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&amp;field-keywords=douglas+ottati&amp;x=0&amp;y=0" target="_blank">Douglas Ottati</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&amp;field-keywords=elizabeth+johnson&amp;x=0&amp;y=0" target="_blank">Elizabeth Johnson</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&amp;field-keywords=brian+mclaren&amp;x=0&amp;y=0" target="_blank">Brian McLaren</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/1451609000/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Peter Rollins</a></li>
<li>and the famous <a title="John Cobb on the Incarnation and its Theological Predicaments: Homebrewed Christianity ep. 38" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2008/12/23/john-cobb-on-the-incarnation-and-its-theological-predicaments-homebrewed-christianity-ep-38/" target="_blank">Incarnation podcast with John Cobb </a></li>
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<div>Also covered are Claremont Lincoln&#8217;s involvement in the inter-religious endeavor and their new logo &#8211; as well as re-writing some hymns and songs to better reflect what we really believe.</div>
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		<itunes:subtitle>In this hour long conversation Bo and Tripp take up the question &#8220;Is too much emphasis placed on the cross?&#8221;  Bo thinks that it is both out of proportion and ultimately unhelpful to place so much importance in this one symbol. Tripp thin[...]</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>In this hour long conversation Bo and Tripp take up the question &#8220;Is too much emphasis placed on the cross?&#8221;  Bo thinks that it is both out of proportion and ultimately unhelpful to place so much importance in this one symbol. Tripp think that it can be redeemed from those who have misused and misappropriated it. The debate started with [this post]
In this episode we reference (among others) books by

Andrew Sung-Park
Douglas Ottati
Elizabeth Johnson
Brian McLaren
Peter Rollins
and the famous Incarnation podcast with John Cobb 

Also covered are Claremont Lincoln&#8217;s involvement in the inter-religious endeavor and their new logo &#8211; as well as re-writing some hymns and songs to better reflect what we really believe.</itunes:summary>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 17:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bo Sanders</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The 21st Century will probably look little like the 20th. Globalization, race, gender, and creed will have a nearly incalculable impact on the church and the world &#8211; many of us think for the good. In the Clayton Crockett podcast (Radical Theology), many names come to the surface. Who do you think had the greatest impact [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 21st Century will probably look little like the 20th. Globalization, race, gender, and creed will have a nearly incalculable impact on the church and the world &#8211; <em>many of us think for the good</em>.</p>
<p>In <a title="Radical Political Theology with Clayton Crockett" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/11/23/radical-political-theology-with-clayton-crockett/" target="_blank">the Clayton Crockett podcast</a> (Radical Theology), many names come to the surface. Who do you think had the greatest impact of the 20th Century theologians that were named (<em>or another who was not</em>)</p>
<p><em>you can pick 2 if you must .  Feel free to  leave a comment and let me know of any oversights!</em></p>
Note: There is a poll embedded within this post, please visit the site to participate in this post's poll.
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		<title>Radical Political Theology with Clayton Crockett</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 17:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Clayton Crockett tells that you can&#8217;t go home again. The world of religion and politics has changed so radically that the old definitions and boundary markers are nearly unrecognizable &#8211; and even less helpful. Clayton Crockett is Associate Professor and Director of Religious Studies at the University of Central Arkansas. His work focuses on postmodern [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clayton Crockett tells that <em>you can&#8217;t go home again. </em>The world of religion and politics has changed so radically that the old definitions and boundary markers are nearly unrecognizable &#8211; and even less helpful.</p>
<p>Clayton Crockett is Associate Professor and Director of Religious Studies at the University of Central Arkansas. His work focuses on postmodern theology, Continental philosophy of religion, psychoanalytic theory and theoretical issues concerning religion and politics.</p>
<blockquote><p>In the 1960s, the strict opposition between the religious and the secular began to break down, blurring the distinction between political philosophy and political theology. This collapse contributed to the decline of modern liberalism, which supported a neutral, value-free space for capitalism. It also deeply unsettled political, religious, and philosophical realms, forced to confront the conceptual stakes of a return to religion. (from the book description)</p></blockquote>
<p>In this conversation with Tripp Fuller, politics, history and religion are evaluated from thoroughly theological lens. His book  <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0231149824/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Radical Political Theology : Religion and Politics after Liberalism</a> is available from Amazon in hardcover and Kindle editions.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget to sign up for the <a href="http://www.processtheology.org/" target="_blank">2012 Emergent Village Theological Conversation</a> in Claremont, CA January 31-February 2.</p>
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Clayton Crockett is Associa[...]</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Clayton Crockett tells that you can&#8217;t go home again. The world of religion and politics has changed so radically that the old definitions and boundary markers are nearly unrecognizable &#8211; and even less helpful.
Clayton Crockett is Associate Professor and Director of Religious Studies at the University of Central Arkansas. His work focuses on postmodern theology, Continental philosophy of religion, psychoanalytic theory and theoretical issues concerning religion and politics.
In the 1960s, the strict opposition between the religious and the secular began to break down, blurring the distinction between political philosophy and political theology. This collapse contributed to the decline of modern liberalism, which supported a neutral, value-free space for capitalism. It also deeply unsettled political, religious, and philosophical realms, forced to confront the conceptual stakes of a return to religion. (from the book description)
In this conversation with Tripp Fuller, politics, history and religion are evaluated from thoroughly theological lens. His book  Radical Political Theology : Religion and Politics after Liberalism is available from Amazon in hardcover and Kindle editions.
Don&#8217;t forget to sign up for the 2012 Emergent Village Theological Conversation in Claremont, CA January 31-February 2.</itunes:summary>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2011 18:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bo Sanders</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This was a week of controversy in the Blogosphere – at least in my neck of the woods. The topic of gender, femininity, and sexuality were the touch points.  I am going to highlight 3 controversial blogs from this week … but first I want to acknowledge that it mirrored (albeit in a much smaller [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was a week of controversy in the Blogosphere – at least in my neck of the woods.</p>
<p>The topic of gender, femininity, and sexuality were the touch points.  I am going to highlight 3 controversial blogs from this week … but first I want to acknowledge that it mirrored (<em>albeit in a much smaller way</em>) something happening in the larger culture that we are embedded in.</p>
<p>This was also a week that saw the Penn State football sexual abuse scandal rock the nation, the Herman Cain sexual harassment allegations, and several other national news story related to discrimination, abuse, and harassment.</p>
<p>These three christian conversations that follow are not happening in a vacuum – perhaps that is why they illicit such a heated response and so much attention. It impacts all of us.</p>
<p><strong>Post 1:</strong>  from Stuff that Christians Like – a post called ‘Girls with a Past’ was a little test (<em>written by a man</em>) that women could take to see if one qualified as intriguing or not.  It was satire (<em>which not everyone gets or likes</em>) and it pointed out a real problem. Now, some people were offended and took it out on the author. I just want to say that the situation is infuriating but we can’t take it out on the person who illustrates the problem, Jon was articulating a severe inconsistency between what we say and what we do in the ‘church’.</p>
<p>Here is his post: <a href="http://www.jonacuff.com/stuffchristianslike/2011/11/stuff-christians-guys-like-girls-that-have-a-past/" target="_blank">http://www.jonacuff.com/stuffchristianslike/2011/11/stuff-christians-guys-like-girls-that-have-a-past/ </a>let me know what you think.  <em>It got over 500 responses.</em></p>
<p><strong>Post 2:</strong> <a title="Discovering Biblical Womanhood in Monkey Town with Rachel Held Evans: Homebrewed Christianity 113" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/07/31/discovering-biblical-womanhood-in-monkey-town-with-rachel-held-evans-homebrewed-christianity-113/" target="_blank">Rachel Held Evans</a> (one of my favorite bloggers) put up a post called “13 things that make me a bad feminist”. It is part of a series that she does from time to time – she has also admitted to being a bad ‘evangelical’ and ‘progressive’.  This post went over like a lead-balloon <em>.</em> This led to a guest-post the following day.</p>
<p>Here is the post: <a href="http://rachelheldevans.com/13-things-lousy-feminist" target="_blank">http://rachelheldevans.com/13-things-lousy-feminist</a> <em>. It got 149 responses</em>.</p>
<p><strong>Post 3: </strong>my co-host Tripp Fuller came out of the closet as <em>not</em> being ‘open and affirming’ on a video from Two Friars and a Fool. His contention was that affirming letters – whether L, B, G, Q, T, I or any other <em>dash</em> or<em> asterisk</em> – is an inherently limited response. It has two great dangers: <strong></strong><strong></strong></p>
<ol>
<li><strong></strong> it makes us feel like what have really done something, when all we have really done is <strong></strong></li>
<li><strong></strong>conceded the initial ground rules to the entrenched system.</li>
</ol>
<p>The problem is that the system is capitalism and that means that ‘acceptance’ is becoming both something to market and a new group to be marketed <em>to</em>.</p>
<p>Tripp’s point of contention is that the gospel of Jesus calls the whole system into account. We can’t concede the rules of the game and then think that we are going to bring about the best-of-all-possibilities. The structure itself must be contested. The system can not be catered to – it must be undermined and subverted. People are too valuable to God to be classified by their genitalia or the genitalia of who they are attracted to.<em> This was not received too well for the most part. </em></p>
<p>Here is the post:<a href="http://twofriarsandafool.com/2011/11/identity-politics-are-not-the-gospel/" target="_blank"> http://twofriarsandafool.com/2011/11/identity-politics-are-not-the-gospel/</a><em> it got 84 responses. </em></p>
<p>___<img style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-width: 0px;" title="4040059343_ca446c32bb_s" src="http://bosanders.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/4040059343_ca446c32bb_s.jpg?w=75&amp;h=75" alt="" width="75" height="75" /></p>
<p>My take:</p>
<ul>
<li>The 3,000 year old gender roles in the oldest parts of the Bible merely reflect that culture’s understanding and are not the last word on ‘natural’ design.</li>
<li>The 2,000 year old gender roles in the New Testament were written in context where women were basically property. They need to be revisited and revised.</li>
<li>The idea of ‘original sin’ is a constructed idea and not biblical. What it is addressing, however, is real and I think we all acknowledge that. It needs to be addressed in better ways without pre-modern understandings imposed upon it.  <em></em></li>
<li>Until we address these three subject the conversation will always circle around and around in endless and unhelpful loops of misunderstanding: <strong>1)</strong> social conditioning<strong> 2)</strong> constructed reality <strong>3)</strong> biological implications of being mammals.</li>
</ul>
<p>I would be very excited to enter into this conversation if we did not live in such a contentious and acidic ‘<a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0345407512/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Argument Culture</a>‘.  <em>Thoughts? </em></p>
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		<title>Hey Hey Ho Ho &#8211; the Status Quo has got to go!</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 20:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bo Sanders</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[in light of the current protests.   A few weeks ago Joerg Rieger cautioned about a type of Christianity that was a cheerleader for the system, that reinforced the status quo, and participated in society in way that strengthened Empire. I have said before I come from a background where this type of thinking is not [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: right;"><em>in light of the current protests. </em></p>
<p> A few weeks ago <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Joerg-Rieger/e/B001HN375Y/ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1?qid=1317846402&amp;sr=8-1-fkmr0" target="_blank">Joerg Rieger</a> cautioned about a type of Christianity that was a cheerleader for the system, that reinforced the status quo, and participated in society in way that strengthened Empire.</p>
<p>I have said before I come from a background where this type of thinking is not just disorienting but alienating. The focus is on individuals &#8211; with little mention of anything systemic. The goal is the salvation of souls for the afterlife &#8211; with no address of collective issues.</p>
<p>It was reading <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&amp;field-keywords=Walter+WInk&amp;x=0&amp;y=0" target="_blank">Walter Wink  “the Powers the Be”</a> that radically impacted the way I could see this. I have since encountered other writings and teachers who have opened the subject even further.</p>
<p>Now, it is odd to look at the central figure of our faith and ask<em> how did Jesus ever get portrayed as a guy who basically told people to be nice and obey the rules</em>? <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&amp;field-keywords=cornel+west&amp;x=0&amp;y=0" target="_blank">Cornell West</a> would talk about him be sanitized, deodorized, and neutralized. Someone else might call this being a chaplain to the empire.</p>
<p>Tripp and I have a theme that shows up in our personal conversations on a fairly regular basis. It revolves around the idea that <strong>variable X or Y may be changed or tweaked, but the outcome of the equation is never in doubt.</strong> A specific issue may be protested, but the machine itself in never in danger. Certain areas can be challenged or  even overhauled, but the system itself is never in jeopardy.</p>
<p>This is not limited to Empire. It goes beyond hegemony. It is not limited to Capitalism.</p>
<p>The powers that be, or the system, or the machine (<em>as you prefer</em>) is an omnibus. It can absorb &#8211; incorporate &#8211; and co-op any variation, deviation, or even challenge &#8230; and<strong> in the end the structure is nearly unchanged. The system is never in danger. The machine doesn’t even slow down. The Powers are never in jeopardy.</strong> It eats new ideas with barely a burp &#8211; let alone beginning to buckle.</p>
<p><em> We could talk about an anarchist musical band that signs a record contract, or a retail store that sells Buddhist trinkets from ‘the far east’, or a seminar on Native American spirituality that meets in a university classroom&#8230; but I don’t want to get sidelined.  </em></p>
<p>Benjamin Barber in his book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0345383044/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Jihad vs. McWorld </a>talks about the market in such a way that sketched a picture (for me) of a machine that needs to be fueled by new authentic-indigenous expressions, otherwise it runs dry and burns out on it’s own the boredom of its generic repetitions and knock-offs.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>“McWorld cannot then do without Jihad: it needs cultural parochialism to feed its endless appetites. Yet neither can Jihad do without that world: for where would culture be without a commercial producers who market it and the information and communication systems that make it known?”  </em></p></blockquote>
<p>We have talked with <a title="Economics, Theology, and Discipleship: Joerg Rieger on Homebrewed Christianity 116" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/09/06/economics-theology-and-discipleship-joerg-rieger-on-homebrewed-christianity-116/" target="_blank">Joerge Rieger</a> (ep. 116) about a theological look at global economics. We have talked with <a title="9/11 Special: Graham E. Fuller and a world without Islam" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/09/09/911-special-graham-e-fuller-and-a-world-without-islam/" target="_blank">Graham E. Fuller</a> (ep. 117) about a historical perspective on East-West relations.</p>
<p>I am curious about the theological address of some revolutionary response to the machine. We talk about <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&amp;field-keywords=Jesus+and+empire&amp;x=0&amp;y=0" target="_blank">Jesus and Empire</a>. We talk about the <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/1842272616/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Constantinian compromise</a>. We have the <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_tc_2_0?rh=i%3Astripbooks%2Ck%3AStanley+Hauerwas&amp;keywords=Stanley+Hauerwas&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1317847330&amp;sr=8-2-ent&amp;field-contributor_id=B000APV13K" target="_blank">Hauerwasian</a> response that gets interpreted as <em>withdrawal &amp; testimony</em>. Cornell West wants us to be <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0664223435/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Prophetic</a>.</p>
<p>What is the theological answer to the question that the machine is asking? Certainly, like Tripp is fond of saying, <strong>we have to be about more than a slightly kinder gentler empire.</strong> Jesus challenged the status quo of his day &#8211; economic, militaristic, racial, gender, and religious. How does a follower of Jesus address a system of oppression, domination, invasion and economic disparity? <em> Thoughts?</em></p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 22:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This Theology Nerd Throwdown is sponsored by Claremont School of Theology. Tripp and Bo take on three topics in the news from a progressive Christian perspective with an eye toward the theological. 1. Did 9/11 really change us? You can read the initial blog here. 2. The crows at the Republican Presidential debates are telling [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Theology Nerd Throwdown is sponsored by <a href="http://www.cst.edu/" target="_blank">Claremont School of Theology</a>.</p>
<p>Tripp and Bo take on three topics in the news from a progressive Christian perspective with an eye toward the theological.</p>
<p>1. Did 9/11 really change us? <a title="Did 9/11 really change us?" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/09/12/did-911-really-change-us/" target="_blank">You can read the initial blog here.<br />
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<p>2. The crows at the Republican Presidential debates are telling us something. We think that <em>something</em> is bad.</p>
<p>3. <a href="http://claremontlincoln.org/about/a-new-university/a-model-for-solutions/" target="_blank">Claremont Lincoln University</a> had it&#8217;s convocation ceremony this week. That seemed significant in light of story 1 and 2 above.</p>
<p>In this hour-long show these two theology nerds reference several books &#8211; including but not limited to :</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0385487525/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">The Powers the Be</a> by Walter Wink</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0061920622/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank"> Simply Christian</a> by N.T. Wright</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/066424842X/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Theology and the Kingdom </a>by Wolfhart Pannenberg</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0800664590/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">No Rising Tide </a>by Joerge Rieger</p>
<p><em>The views expressed are not necessarily those of Claremont School of Theology or Claremont Lincoln University. </em></p>
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Tripp and Bo take on three topics in the news from a progressive Christian perspective with an eye toward the theological.
1. Did 9/11 really change us? You can read the init[...]</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>This Theology Nerd Throwdown is sponsored by Claremont School of Theology.
Tripp and Bo take on three topics in the news from a progressive Christian perspective with an eye toward the theological.
1. Did 9/11 really change us? You can read the initial blog here.

2. The crows at the Republican Presidential debates are telling us something. We think that something is bad.
3. Claremont Lincoln University had it&#8217;s convocation ceremony this week. That seemed significant in light of story 1 and 2 above.
In this hour-long show these two theology nerds reference several books &#8211; including but not limited to :
The Powers the Be by Walter Wink
 Simply Christian by N.T. Wright
Theology and the Kingdom by Wolfhart Pannenberg
No Rising Tide by Joerge Rieger
The views expressed are not necessarily those of Claremont School of Theology or Claremont Lincoln University. 
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		<dc:creator>Bo Sanders</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As we all know,this past weekend was a big one. I watched with much interest as the commemorations and memorials passed. My senses were especially heightened today due to five things: We put our the interview with Graham E. Fuller this past Friday. I heard an interview and read an article with a New York [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As we all know,this past weekend was a big one. I watched with much interest as the commemorations and memorials passed. My senses were especially heightened today due to five things:</p>
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<li>We put our the<a title="9/11 Special: Graham E. Fuller and a world without Islam" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/09/09/911-special-graham-e-fuller-and-a-world-without-islam/"> interview with Graham E. Fuller </a>this past Friday.</li>
<li>I heard an interview and read an article with a New York author who was asking a tough a question. “Did 9/11 really change us all that much?”</li>
<li>Tony Jones wrote <a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/tonyjones/2011/09/12/why-i-avoided-all-911-coverage-yesterday/#more-3731" target="_blank">a blog </a>that pointed out the danger of ‘memorials’ for history and our collective memory .</li>
<li>The <a href="http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/09/gop-debate-audience-cheers-perrys-execution-record/" target="_blank">Republican Presidential Debates</a>.</li>
<li>Getting ready to start a new weekly radio show for <a href="http://www.cst.edu/" target="_blank">Claremont School of Theology</a> where this will be one of our first  questions.</li>
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<p>I lived in New York state when the attacks happened. I drove home from the conference I was at to be with my congregation. That weekend I preached to the fullest auditorium I have ever seen and I preached the most prophetic message I have ever attempted. The following week I lost some of my congregants and that next weekend preached to a half-full auditorium.</p>
<p>As a student in religion at a <a href="http://claremontlincoln.org/about/a-new-university/a-model-for-solutions/" target="_blank">University</a> that is partnering with an<a href="http://icsconline.org/" target="_blank"> Islamic</a> and a <a href="http://ajrca.org/" target="_blank">Jewish center</a> for study, the events of ten years ago are continuously on my mind. As a friend and brother to people who take seriously the critiques of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0618918248/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Richard Dawkins</a>, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003VWC45I/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Christopher Hitchens</a>, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0393327655/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Sam Harris </a>and <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0143038338/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Daniel Dennett</a> &#8230; I am confronted daily by the effects of bad religion on our world.</p>
<p><strong> SO  I wanted to throw out some questions and get some feedback. </strong>Here are my questions:</p>
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<li>As a country, are we less combative than we were before 9/11? <em>Because we see the effects of violence?</em></li>
<li>Are our politics less contentious? <em>Has it brought more unity?</em></li>
<li>Are we less Imperialistic? <em>Making fewer enemies and giving less fuel to the terrorists?</em></li>
<li>Are we less consumeristic? <em>Now that we see what really matters?</em></li>
<li>Do we have a deeper appreciation for people of other faiths? <em>we have read their scriptures and visited their gatherings because we no longer want to alienated from the &#8216;other&#8217;? </em></li>
<li>Do we know more about other faith traditions?</li>
<li>For those who believe that this is a ‘Christian Nation’, are we more sincere about following the way of Jesus? <em>Those who proclaim the name of Christ have revisited and thus radically altered their previous posture? </em></li>
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<p>It seems to me that the answer to every one of these questions &#8211; however broad they may be &#8211; is overwhelming ‘no’. We have not changed. We are not a different country. We have not gone a different way. I am left to wonder if 9/11 changed us at all. One could make the case the we have continued of the same trajectory of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0345407512/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Argument Culture</a> politics, militaristic foreign policy, consumeristic capitalism, overspending both personally and in government, contentious religion <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/9-111.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-6825" title="9-11" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/9-111-300x276.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="276" /></a>and combative media coverage. I am not sure that much has changed at all since September 10, 2001.</p>
<p><strong>My question in preparation for the radio conversation is twofold:</strong></p>
<p>Am I wrong? Is there something I am not seeing?</p>
<p>Am I asking the right questions? If not, what are better questions?</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 22:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bo Sanders</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the 10th anniversary of the September 11th attacks, we talk to Graham E. Fuller about the world we live in and geo-political roots of our contemporary conflicts.</p>
<p>We talk about Israel, Turkey, Russia, Bosnia,  Malaysia, Indonesia and America.  We also go back in history &#8211; past the Crusades &#8211; to the roots of the East/West split and the relevance of those tensions for us today.</p>
<p>Graham E. Fuller is author of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0316041203/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">A World Without Islam</a>  . He is a former vice chairman of the National Intelligence Council at the CIA, a former senior political scientist at RAND, and a current adjunct professor of history at Simon Fraser University. He is the author of numerous books about the Middle East, including The Future of Political Islam. He has lived and worked in the Muslim world for nearly two decades.</p>
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Graham E. Fuller is author of A World Without Islam  . He is a former vice chairman of the National Intelligence Council at the CIA, a former senior political scientist at RAND, and a current adjunct professor of history at Simon Fraser University. He is the author of numerous books about the Middle East, including The Future of Political Islam. He has lived and worked in the Muslim world for nearly two decades.
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		<description><![CDATA[We may be in the midst of an &#8216;economic downturn&#8217; but at Homebrewed Christianity we are having a &#8216;theological boom.&#8217;  If there was one single living person I would want to talk to about theology and economics Joerg Rieger is that person.  Guess what? He is here! Rieger is the Wendland-Cook Endowed Professor of Constructive [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/rieger-interfaith_0809_1_eh.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-6789" title="rieger interfaith_0809_1_eh" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/rieger-interfaith_0809_1_eh-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a> We may be in the midst of an &#8216;economic downturn&#8217; but at Homebrewed Christianity we are having a &#8216;theological boom.&#8217;  If there was one single living person I would want to talk to about theology and economics Joerg Rieger is that person.  Guess what? He is here!</p>
<p>Rieger is the <a href="http://www.smu.edu/Perkins/FacultyAcademics/DirectoryList/Rieger.aspx">Wendland-Cook Endowed Professor of Constructive Theology </a>at <a href="http://www.smu.edu/perkins.aspx">Perkins School of Theology</a> (SMU), p<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Joerg-Rieger/e/B001HN375Y/ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1?qid=1315316822&amp;sr=8-1">rolific author</a>, regular speaker, motorcycle enthusiast, and just plain awesome dude.  In the podcast we discuss the relationship of politics, power, the economy, and our present crisis from a theological and biblical perspective.  We move from the abstract to the practical and along the way I hope it&#8217;s clear we both had a good bit of fun.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.soularize.net/hbc/"> Join Us @Soularize Oct 18-20!</a></p>
<p>Rieger is author of many books including:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0800664590/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">No Rising Tide: Theology, Economics, and the Future  (Kindle $9.99)</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0800620380/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Christ &amp; Empire: From Paul to Postcolonial Times</a></p>
<p>and <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/1426700652/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Globalization and Theology</a> ($8.80 Kindle, $9.80 paperback)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.joergrieger.com/">Check out his amazing website for great resources!</a></p>
<p>Thanks to Ellie Haugsby at the Chautauquan Daily for the sweet pic of Rieger in action.</p>
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		<itunes:subtitle> We may be in the midst of an &#8216;economic downturn&#8217; but at Homebrewed Christianity we are having a &#8216;theological boom.&#8217;  If there was one single living person I would want to talk to about theology and economics Joerg Rieger is [...]</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary> We may be in the midst of an &#8216;economic downturn&#8217; but at Homebrewed Christianity we are having a &#8216;theological boom.&#8217;  If there was one single living person I would want to talk to about theology and economics Joerg Rieger is that person.  Guess what? He is here!
Rieger is the Wendland-Cook Endowed Professor of Constructive Theology at Perkins School of Theology (SMU), prolific author, regular speaker, motorcycle enthusiast, and just plain awesome dude.  In the podcast we discuss the relationship of politics, power, the economy, and our present crisis from a theological and biblical perspective.  We move from the abstract to the practical and along the way I hope it&#8217;s clear we both had a good bit of fun.
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Rieger is author of many books including:
No Rising Tide: Theology, Economics, and the Future  (Kindle $9.99)
Christ &#38; Empire: From Paul to Postcolonial Times
and Globalization and Theology ($8.80 Kindle, $9.80 paperback)
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 06:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ This is a guest post from my Jeremy Fackenthal. He is a fellow Claremont Phd, Baptist, and late night talking partner.  Be Ye Provoked!  The last couple of weeks have been really outstanding for the system we call universal capitalism.  The US has a debt problem and lost its AAA credit rating, marking its decline [...]]]></description>
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<p><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: small;"><em> This is a guest post from my J<a href="http://jfackenthal.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">eremy Fackenthal</a>. He is a fellow Claremont Phd, Baptist, and late night talking partner</em>.  <em>Be Ye Provoked!</em><br />
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<p><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: small;"><a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/marx_jesus.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-6735" title="marx_jesus" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/marx_jesus.jpg" alt="" width="185" height="113" /></a> The last couple of weeks have been really outstanding for the system we call universal capitalism.  The US has a debt problem and lost its AAA credit rating, marking its decline in the world financial scheme, Italy has a debt problem, Greece has a very naughty debt problem, global markets are down, and people aren&#8217;t buying stuff they really don&#8217;t need.  This is not good news in a world where growth is the major indicator of a good economy, happiness, and evidently a pleasing sex-life.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: small;">I recently read </span><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2002/feb/02/academicexperts.highereducation" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: small;">Terry Eagleton&#8217;s</span></a><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: small;"> latest book </span><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0300169434/?tag=homebrechrist-20"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: small;"><em>Why Marx Was Right</em></span></a><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: small;">, in which he takes the ten most popular critiques of Marxism and debunks them in order to show that Marx&#8217;s socialist theory remains a valid philosophical and economic option today, and one that might even be preferable to capitalism in the long run.  It seems that writing about socialism or espousing socialist ideals can still be risky business, even in a country where some deeply misguided people try to convince us that our government is already practically run by socialists.  In the past, ideas such as these even got some people killed&#8211;sometimes in the style of Roman crucifixion.  So I applaud Eagleton for unabashedly taking a stand for Marxism and for providing some very intriguing (and often quite witty) reflections on the history of Marxist thought and its relevance today.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: small;">There&#8217;s been a lot of talk recently about socialism versus free-market capitalism, and religion has not be absent from the conversation.  Sunday&#8217;s Washington Post faith section featured this </span><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/guest-voices/post/from-jesus-socialism-to-capitalistic-christianity/2011/08/12/gIQAziaQBJ_blog.html" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: small;">excellent op-ed</span></a><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: small;"> by describing the road from Christian socialism to Ayn Rand-style capitalism.  Given all this attention, I thought it might be interesting to blog through Eagleton&#8217;s book, chapter by chapter, noting some places where Marxism and the Gospel are perhaps not so far apart.  Eagleton&#8217;s book lends itself well to this task because it takes criticisms of Marxism and aims to prove the critics wrong.  In doing so, it provides a fairly easy-to-understand intro to Marx and socialist theory.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: small;">Eagleton&#8217;s first chapter combats the critique that Marxist thought is finished and out of date because we now live in a world of apparent social mobility <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/marx-eagleton1-e1313562057663.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-6736" title="marx-eagleton1" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/marx-eagleton1-e1313562057663.jpg" alt="" width="255" height="374" /></a> in which class is no longer an issue.  Oh, if only that were the case.  Eagleton&#8217;s main point in this chapter is that Marxism is a critique of capitalism, and so as long as capitalism is around to be critiqued, then Marxism still has a job to do.  Rather than Marxism outgrowing its use, many Marxists around the early 1980s simply gave in to overwhelming capitalist fervor.  And rather than classes disappearing due to social (upward) mobility, the rich became richer and the poor remained poor.  Eagleton gives some startling statistics, such as the World Bank&#8217;s figure that in 2001 more than 2.5 billion people in the world lived on less than $2 a day, and he points to capitalism&#8217;s role in the looming issue that will define the 21st century&#8211;climate change.  </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: small;">Neither Eagleton nor I are naive enough to say that capitalism hasn&#8217;t brought about its fair share of fabulous advances.  I have an iPhone and can hardly imagine life without it.  I&#8217;m guessing Terry Eagleton does not, but I&#8217;d venture that he probably uses a computer and the internet, both products of capitalist advances.  Nevertheless, the fact that the gap between the rich and the poor, or even the rich and the middle class, continues to grow by leaps and bounds points to a drastic flaw in the notion that capitalism should be good for us all.  </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: small;">Obviously Jesus wasn&#8217;t a Marxist, since Marx and the ideas he developed did not come about until 1800 years after Jesus&#8217; death.  But it would be equally (if not more) anachronistic to say that Jesus liked free-market capitalism.  Jesus may not have read passages from Marx&#8217;s <em>Captital </em> in the synagogue, but he certainly wasn&#8217;t reading from Ayn Rand, Milton Friedman or Adam Smith either.  Instead, he read from the Hebrew prophets, and hence from folks who didn&#8217;t mince words but told it like it was.  In the end, justice prevails, and this especially includes economic justice.  Like Gregory Paul (see link to Washington Post op-ed above), I see the overwhelming trajectory of the Biblical narrative pointing toward economies in which justice prevails and not toward the type of economies in which a relative few amass great wealth at the expense of all the others.  Since this second type of economy is what we continue to live with, I agree with Eagleton that<a href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;cd=6&amp;ved=0CFcQFjAF&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fchronicle.com%2Farticle%2FIn-Praise-of-Marx%2F127027%2F&amp;ei=WVpLTtwYieOIAuy9qIkB&amp;usg=AFQjCNHuGW8l0sBHok3x5A9vFZ-7o-fHWw&amp;sig2=VqOgbRHIvLIL8QJ705_mQw" target="_blank"> Marxism is not and cannot be dead</a> and finished.  Likewise, social gospel style Biblical commentary cannot be dead and finished either.  Perhaps Jesus wasn&#8217;t a Marxist, but evidence points toward the idea that he favored just economics in which the rich give up their riches (Matthew 19:16) and the poor inherit the kingdom (Luke 6:20).</span></p>
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		<title>The Good Samaritans of Alabama</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 21:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Deacon Hall</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The New York Times just published a storyabout a cadre of Bishops  in Alabama suing the state over the passage of a new and tough immigration law. They (rightly) claim that this law is so ambiguously written that it could disallow them the right to act toward immigrants as they claim Christians are commanded: as [...]]]></description>
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<p>The <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/14/us/14immig.html?ref=us&amp;gwh=A3E306A14CC505310C2191632079FFAD" target="_blank">New York Times just published a story</a>about a cadre of Bishops  in Alabama suing the state over the passage of a new and tough immigration law. They (rightly) claim that this law is so ambiguously written that it could disallow them the right to act toward immigrants as they claim Christians are commanded: as good Samaritans. I don’t pretend to know what the right answer for immigration reform is in the US; I tend to think that the way that each side often looks at the current issue is, on the right, xenophobic and, on the left, unsustainable. However, I’m not trying to conjure another simplistic debate one way or the other in this post. (I’m implicating my above views in this st</p>
<p>atement.) <strong>What I would like to say is that I’m in <em>complete</em> solidarity with my own Episcopal Church, the Methodist Church, and the Roman Catholic Church of Alabama on this matter and that they and their suit will be in my prayers.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Perhaps more importantly from a theological-political level, however, the issue raises for me the importance of the separation of Church and State in the U.S. and the tension that exists between the ultimate allegences of each institution.</strong> On the one hand, the Church stands always and forever for a Kingdom that we cannot bring but must do our best to imitate in the here and now; they are right to see this as a “Kingdom issue,” for lack of a better term. In this Kingdom, there is neither Jew or Greek, man or woman. All tribalisms die. On the other hand, the State necessarily stands for the collective interests of its people, protecting them and their material and legal well-being first. (I’m not claiming that’s what the State of Alabama is actually doing, by the way; <a href="http://www.economist.com/blogs/freeexchange/2011/05/immigration" target="_blank">I’d probably believe just the opposite</a>. I won’t doubt that the State is <em>trying</em> to protect its citizens, however.) This means the state <em>is</em> a tribal formation grounded in the idea of common-law and heritage.</p>
<p>However these tensions between Church and State <em>ought </em>to play themselves out within individuals and institutions, the beauty of this particular issue is how it exemplifies the impossibility of the situation: that <strong>these two institutions <em>do</em> and <em>will</em> butt heads. If they don’t, one of the two institutions is doing something wrong!</strong></p>
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		<title>Education: Where The Market Is God</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 05:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tripp Fuller</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Friend and Fellow Deacon (as in Wake Forest Divinity School Deacon) Aaron wrote this amazing blog post and I talked him into letting me share it. Be Ye Provoked! Over the last few years, I’ve come to the conclusion that the most important and dangerous issue we face as a society is education. There are [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/neo_liberalism1.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-6660" title="neo_liberalism" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/neo_liberalism1.jpg" alt="" width="301" height="214" /></a> <a href="http://therivermerchant.blogspot.com/">Friend and Fellow Deacon</a> (as in <a href="http://divinity.wfu.edu/">Wake Forest Divinity Schoo</a>l Deacon) Aaron wrote this amazing blog post and I talked him into letting me share it. Be Ye Provoked!</p>
<p>Over the last few years, I’ve come to the conclusion that the most important and dangerous issue we face as a society is education. There are multiple reasons for this, but perhaps the most compelling is that there is no difference between education and democracy.  What I mean by that is the same thing that educational philosopher John Dewey argued in his seminal work ‘<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_and_Education">Democracy and Education</a>’ – which is that the major aim of education should be to promote self-aware, critical thinkers who understand their interdependence with and responsibility to the society in which they live.</p>
<p>If you believe the major premise of Dewey’s argument – that democracy and education are so intertwined they literally cannot be separated – then it is immediately obvious why a vibrant education is the most important thing in the country. More important, even, than national defense, the economic outlook, etc…</p>
<p>Now the tragedy is that our current educational discourse presents two equally terrible options: either our legislators are silent on the issue of education (i.e. they just don’t care), or they are vocal and hold a terribly mistaken understanding of what education is, and its goals. I believe that, unless the current trajectory of education is changed, it will ultimately collapse our already<a href="http://www.progressivereader.com/2010/04/28/thin-democracy-vs-living-democracy/"> thinning democracy</a>. I’m quite serious about this.</p>
<div>Now, how is it that we’ve put a gun to the head of the best education system in the history of the world and pulled the trigger? Well, the reasons for this are as deep as they are wide, but the primary driver behind the dismantling education (secondary and post-secondary) is a thing called neoliberalism.</div>
<p>In a nutshell, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism">neoliberalism</a> is the idea that everything in society should be measured by a market-driven approach. It assumes not only are those with ‘business experience’ more capable and qualified to oversee any system of policymaking or administration, but that all things essentially boil down to business analytics and standards.</p>
<p>I don’t want to harp on this point too much, but the short version of the story is this: this assumption is not only dead wrong, it going to end up destroying our democracy and our way of life. It is fueled by a McCarthy-era fear of economic globalization, meaning that the US will no longer be the economic bully it once was. It is grounded in a number of hugely mistaken philosophical ideas about the nature of human existence, knowing and learning (which I don’t bore you with, but will happy to discuss at a later date). It has made itself manifest across all sectors of society, but the one I, personally, most interested in is education for the aforementioned reasons.</p>
<p>What it’s meant in terms of education is the absolutely ludicrous claim that the ultimate aim of education is economics. It extends this premise into the argument that business methods and mindsets (based on a completely naive understanding of knowing, teaching and learning) are best suited to the education system: training models, comparable performance measures, efficiencies of scale, standardization. Viola! Education has now become big business.(FYI: Obama&#8217;s policies on education are more destructive and terrifying than George W. Bush&#8217;s)</p>
<p>This neoliberal disease has reached near fever pitch. Here’s a good example: the Wake County School System (traditionally considered a model of public education in moderately urban environments) hired retired Army Brig. Gen. <a href="http://www.indyweek.com/indyweek/wake-superintendent-anthony-tatas-dubious-qualifications/Content?oid=1933205">Anthony J. Tata</a> to run its system. His credentials? A 12-month training program at a big business education training facility. In any other field, this would be considered absolute lunacy. Could you imagine taking a one-year course in medicine and then being hired to run Duke Medical Center? Well, the people of Wake County decided that was not only acceptable, it was preferable to alternatives like, say, taking the best a brightest in the field of education as a leader for the system.</p>
<div>I will leave you with two thoughts:</div>
<div>(1) There are some things we will never be able to reduce to statistics and business models. Education (like art) is one of them. In the end, we’re going to produce generations of people who (at best) have no ability to think. This will not only kill our democracy, it will (ironically) kill our economy because Americas “human capital” (neoliberal term) will dry up. Teachers have known this all along, which is why <a href="http://www.indyweek.com/indyweek/wake-superintendent-anthony-tatas-dubious-qualifications/Content?oid=1933205">helping kids cheat is becoming an act of civil disobedience</a>.</div>
<div>(2)  This is not simply a political or economic issue. This is a moral issue, a justice issue, an issue of civil rights and we must take a stand against it. I hope you will join me.</div>
<div>Further reading:</div>
<p>“<a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1999/03/the-market-as-god/6397/">The Market As God</a>” by Harvey Cox</p>
<div><a href="http://charterschoolscandals.blogspot.com/">Charter School Scandals Blog</a></div>
<div><a href="http://www.solreform.org/">Parents Across Virginia United Against SOLs</a></div>
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		<title>Texas and Evolution: Can We Move on Now?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[ I should start this post with a disclaimer: I believe that Texas is one of the three craziest states in the union, right up there with Alaska and California! Texas, however, is currently taking the first place prize (for the week, anyways) in its re-instantiation of debates concerning the teaching of evolution in public schools. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/evolution.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-6574" title="evolution" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/evolution-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a> I should start this post with a disclaimer: I believe that Texas is one of the three craziest states in the union, right up there with Alaska and California! Texas, however, is currently taking the first place prize (for the week, anyways) in its re-instantiation of debates concerning the teaching of evolution in public schools. That is, <strong><a href="http://www.dallasobserver.com/2011-07-21/news/viva-la-evolution/">Texas’ Board of Education is again taking up the question of whether evolutionary thought is allowed exclusive domain in public schools as a theory of how life emerges</a> </strong>and whether there can be intellectual debate about evolutions’ factuality in a formal, statewide education.</p>
<p><strong>I personally think, however, that the whole debate is smitten with a series of category mistakes, which I’d like to  address.</strong> I’ll begin by  briefly reconstructing two of the more audacious positions on the matter. First via atheistic evolutionary-biologists, evolution is taken not only to be a true account of human biology, but it is taken to absolutely <em>negate </em>the factual existence of God based on the fact that God is not necessary for evolution. Second, and via creationists, evolution is taken to be untrue precisely <em>because it negates</em> the factual existence of God, the Bibilical accounts of which must be given precedence as that are incommensurate with a evolutionary world. These debates, then, make two category mistakes.</p>
<p><strong>First, God is not, I don’t think, an object among other objects or a “fact” among other “facts,”</strong> as I use the term above. That is, if one looks around the room, one has an experience of different objects in the room; one experiences the chairs, knowing in these experiences the functionality and usefulness of the chairs; one experiences the cushions under one’s bottoms, understanding that without them, one would sit on something far more hard. But one does not have an experience of God in this way precisely because God’s being is absolutely distinct from those empirical objects that give themselves over to our perceptions in their uses and qualities.</p>
<p>God, rather, is “invisible,” as the old term goes, which cannot be taken to mean, again, an object in the room that’s unseen, but something utterly different than objects that surround us. <strong>That is, when we talk of God, I don’t believe we talk about a direct experience but about what could be called a re-orientation of our experiences.</strong> That is, we are addressed by that which is completely other than ourselves in such a way that our previous ways of experiencing are brought into question and formed anew. Paul calls this new experience of the world given by God an experience of the world in terms of faith, hope, and love. I take this to mean that we can no longer experience the world solely in terms of its usefulness for us, especially other people, but in terms of what God intended and intends for it—that what is now the case need not always be so!</p>
<p><strong>In this way, it is silly to try and attest to God’s being by way of factuality and as a fact among other facts. This is a categorically mistaken way of thinking about God’s being, which cannot be proved or disproved as such.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Second, what evolution has more precisely to do with God depends entirely on whether one already stands conscientiously re-oriented within the being of God and, thus, how one interprets the meaning of <em>any</em> worldly fact, <em>including evolution</em>.</strong> That is, both sides are wrong to think that evolution says anything <em>necessary</em> about God prior to a belief in God. Rather, one can only interpret the meaning of evolution based on one’s assumption that there is or is not a God. Thus, Christians, for instance, can and do not only affirm the factuality of evolution but can also very specifically interpret evolution as <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0800663187/?tag=homebrechrist-20">God’s working out</a> of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0824505239/?tag=homebrechrist-20">salvation history</a>! Atheists, likewise, can see that, by means of evolution, we do not <em>need</em> to posit a God, which they are absolutely right about even in Christian terms; after all, God is always a gift and never a necessity, which is why the language of emanation has been dropped for the language of grace.</p>
<p>The truth of the matter, then, is that evolution can (and does) stand as a factually demonstrable way to interpret the so called natural history of humanity and the earth while, at the same time, saying absolutely <em>nothing necessary</em> about God, especially in terms of God being interpreted as a fact among other facts.<strong> Either way, one can rightly affirm the factuality of evolutionary processes, which really shouldn’t be up for debate.</strong></p>
<p>The only matters that ought to be up for debate are evolution’s interpretive possibilities.<strong></strong></p>
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		<title>Is ANYone evangelical enough anymore?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2011 23:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bo Sanders</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I saw two interesting bits of controversy this past week. I wasn&#8217;t necessarily surprised by either of them but I was disturbed by the way they overlapped. The first item was a post as part of a series at Pangea (on Patheos). This one was reeling over the evangelical credibility of C.S. Lewis. Apparently his [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw two interesting bits of controversy this past week. I wasn&#8217;t necessarily surprised by either of them but I was disturbed by the way they overlapped.</p>
<p>The first item was a post as part of a series at <a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/thepangeablog/2011/07/18/c-s-lewis-should-be-an-evangelical-reject-too-john-janzen/?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+thepangeablog+%28Blog+-+Pangea+Blog%29&amp;utm_content=FaceBook" target="_blank">Pangea (on Patheos)</a>. This one was reeling over the evangelical credibility of C.S. Lewis. Apparently his views on the subject of hell were a little too open-ended and remind some self-proclaimed watchdogs of the views in a recent controversy surrounding <em><a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/06/09/love-wins-with-rob-bell-homebrewed-christianity-106/" target="_blank">you know who</a></em> and <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/006204964X/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">his book</a>.</p>
<p>Over the past decades there has been an increasingly contentious debate about the invisible boundary of evangelicalism. Apparently some have become so concerned that even historical figures who were previously safe (even adored) are in danger if their views are found to be too loose for the contemporary conservative backlash.</p>
<p>I was only mildly concerned by this whole line of reasoning. Then, I found out that this past Sunday, the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/17/us/politics/17bachmann.html?pagewanted=all" target="_blank">NY Times</a> called Michelle Bachmann the evangelical candidate in the Republican primary pool.</p>
<p>So my question is:</p>
<ul>
<li>what are the criteria that we are using for this public label of evangelical whereby the quintessential embodiment from the past century (C.S. Lewis) is out and tea-party candidate Michelle Bachmann is in?</li>
<li>who is in change of making these determinations?</li>
<li>what are the demarcations that signify whether someone is “in” or “out”?</li>
</ul>
<p>This is something that I care deeply about as a Methodist minister (UMC) who is the son of a Methodist minister (Free Methodist) we are both proudly Wesleyan in theology. I think that whatever definition we use it should at least be inclusive of our most historical marquee figures and flagship franchises.</p>
<p>I like to use the definition from British Historian David Bebbington as a starting point. We should at least establish a historical framework. [<em><a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/jesus/interviews/noll.html" target="_blank">here is an interview with evangelical scholar Mark Noll where he talks about it</a></em>]</p>
<p><strong>The four keys are:</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>conversionism: new birth and a new life with God</p>
<p>biblicism: reliance on the Bible as ultimate religious authority</p>
<p>activism: concern for sharing the faith</p>
<p>crucentrism: focus on Christ’s redeeming work on the cross</p></blockquote>
<p>Admittedly, those four emphasis take on a different tone and tenor in each generation. They take on different manifestations in each generation. The presence of these four however is a stabilizing theme that runs through the many historical maturations through the centuries and around the globe. These four themes also hold together whether ones utilizes a bounded-set mentality for marking boundaries or a center-set framework to encourage a shared focus.</p>
<p>I celebrate these four themes and find them even amongst my more progressive friends. They could say these four things with confidence:</p>
<ul>
<li>Relationship with God changes you personally (internal) and your relationships (external) .</li>
<li>The Bible is central as the Christian Scripture and sets both the agenda and the example.</li>
<li>One’s faith should both be shared (relationally) and will consequently impact the world around you.</li>
<li>God’s work in Christ is what illuminates and inspires the life of the Christian &#8211; Christ revealed God is a unique and significant way. Jesus&#8217; way is to be our way.</li>
</ul>
<p>This kind of faith is something that I am inspired by and find deep fulfillment by participating in. I am nervous that a reactionary period of retrenchment by<em> the religious righ</em>t , <em>moral majority, </em>or other politicized conservative groups would see evangelicals like myself and C.S. Lewis pushed out and figures like Michelle Bachmann made central.</p>
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		<title>a big difference between Christianity and Islam</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2011 20:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bo Sanders</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I continue to be very excited about the Claremont Lincoln University Project to bring together Jewish, Muslim and Christian scholars and practitioners. It is essential for the future that each tradition initiate its young leaders and thinkers in at atmosphere of mutual exchange and understanding. The reason this is so important is that these three [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I continue to be very excited about the <a href="http://www.claremontlincoln.org/" target="_blank">Claremont Lincoln University Project</a> to bring together Jewish, Muslim and Christian scholars and practitioners. It is essential for the future that each tradition initiate its young leaders and thinkers in at atmosphere of mutual exchange and understanding.<a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Palouse2TreeSunsetFusion2_22.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6537" title="Palouse2TreeSunsetFusion2_2" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Palouse2TreeSunsetFusion2_22-300x199.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="199" /></a></p>
<p>The reason this is so important is that <strong>these three religions are not the same</strong>. They are not simply three expressions of a common understanding. They are vastly and distinctly different from each other. Of course there is commonality and overlap – for instance all three are a covenantal people and point to a covenant they have with God. I am interested to hear how each of the three groups reflects on and lives into their particular understanding.</p>
<p>Many Christians seem to think that the big difference between Christianity and both Islam and Judaism is what they believe about Christ. I do not think that views on Jesus is the biggest difference between the three. In fact, I am suspicious that any Christian willingness to <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/07/11/true-religion-always-revising-renovating-and-reviving/" target="_blank">revisit</a> a wooden-literal reading of passages like John 14:6 or <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/07/11/true-religion-always-revising-renovating-and-reviving/" target="_blank">reexamin</a>e the language and meta-physics of the creedal formulations would easily result in an understanding that did not violate the Quranic understanding that <em>God has no children</em>. Vocabularies of ‘how God was present in Christ’ are already being worked out by followers of the prophet Isa (Jesus) in Muslim countries. [Link:<a href="http://www.westernseminary.edu/papers/Faculty/ETS/ETS%2006%20Allison%20C1.doc" target="_blank"> an article on c-6 contextualization</a>]</p>
<p>In my mind, <strong>there is a much bigger difference between the three religions than an understanding of Jesus’ identity</strong>. It has to do with the earth.</p>
<p>Christianity is primarily time based. While the Christian gospel is one of incarnation, ironically, Christianity has become something that is not place-based and especially not land-based. This is easily illustrated by looking at some Muslim practices and noticing their absence or contrast in Christianity.</p>
<ul>
<li><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>Prayer Direction</strong>:</span> When Muslim pray, they face Mecca. This is a directional earth-relative orientation. Christianity lacks this orientation.</li>
<li><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>Pilgrimage:</strong></span> Once in their lives Muslims are expected to make a pilgrimage to Mecca. This is an intentional journey to a specific location on the surface of the earth that holds special meaning. Christianity has no such thing.</li>
<li><strong><span style="color: #800000;">Sunset:</span></strong> Certain holy days are marked as beginning at “sundown” or when a specific <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eid_ul-Fitr" target="_blank">phase of the moon</a> first appears as observed in a set location. This shows an awareness of the seasons, the sun, and the moon. Christian holy days and holidays are based on a calendar and clock.</li>
<li><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>Language</strong></span>: If you want to read the Quran you need to learn Arabic. The Christian gospel is not only translatable into any language – Christians believe that it should be translated into every language. The Gospel is equally valid in any and every language.</li>
</ul>
<p>In his book <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0802821642/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Whose Religion is Christianity?: the Gospel beyond the West</a></em>, Lamin Sanneh puts it this way:</p>
<blockquote><p>Being that the original scripture of the Christian movement, the New Testament Gospels are translated versions of the message of Jesus, and that means Christianity is a translated religion without a revealed language. The issue is not whether Christians translated their scriptures well or willingly, but that without translation there would be no Christianity or Christians. Translation is the church’s birthmark …<strong> Christianity  seems unique in being the only world religion that is transmitted without the language or originating culture of its founder</strong> (p. 97-98)</p></blockquote>
<p>I have several more examples of difference (including names of God and views of “holy” land) but I simply wanted to illustrate that these are three covenantal religions that all point to Abraham, they are significantly different from each other in practice and understanding. That is why I am excited to hear what they each bring to the table and what we might be able to learn from each other… because we bring such unique, distinct, and particular expressions to the conversation.</p>
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		<title>God Takes Sides&#8230;.or When Karl Barth Was Right</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tripp Fuller</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ God takes sides. I was talking to an adult member of my church yesterday about the fight over the debt limit.  At some point I said &#8220;well God has already taken sides and I am not sure it is being voiced.&#8221;  I went on to say I have no divinely ordained policy prescriptions but scripture [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/barth.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-6525" title="barth" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/barth-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a> God takes sides.</p>
<p>I was talking to an adult member of my church yesterday about the fight over the debt limit.  At some point I said &#8220;well God has already taken sides and I am not sure it is being voiced.&#8221;  I went on to say I have no divinely ordained policy prescriptions but scripture is clear descriptively about what God celebrates and abhors in a nation.  The conversation was a bunch of fun and at the end of my Baptist Bible-flippin tour of justice she said, &#8220;Wow I had no idea. You should preach that sometime.&#8221;  After that I decided I should at least post a blog and say explicitly&#8230;.God takes sides.</p>
<p>God takes the side of the oppressed, marginalized, impoverished and excluded. God is <em>for</em> them.  God is also <em>against</em> the oppressors, violators, full and power wielders.  Pharaoh knows this to be the case, the Prophets proclaimed, and Jesus&#8217; Mom put it to song.  A little attention to scripture and one quickly sees that the actual material reality of people is a preoccupation of God.  In fact God did not mind legislating the redistribution of land, forgiveness of debt, and imposing upon Israel&#8217;s elite the necessity of a social safety net.  There was even this dude named Jesus who told a crazy parable about God judging nations for failing to take these national obligations seriously while getting the religious vocabulary correct.</p>
<p>I know we don&#8217;t like the idea of God taking sides.  It gets most people who go to most churches mad, at least in America, because we know we are likely among the most full, wealthy, and powerful people this planet has ever seen.  Yet the church and its leaders often edit, soft pedal, and nuance their way around these divine calls for material transformation.  People like me are scared to say something because we know we usually suck at changing our own patterns and feel powerless to change the suicidal system we were born into but for those who spend their life studying the Christian faith this call is pretty clear.</p>
<p>Now I could go on a good rant now about how the present economic showdown demonstrates how economism has become the one true religion of the state that binds both political parties together or how the American church is so impotent that demonstrating less regard for the poor is a means to securing their support&#8230;.but then I might get out of hand fast. So instead here are two quotes from the 20th century&#8217;s most famous orthodox theologians&#8230;.not progressive, liberal, social gospelers, feminist, or liberation theologians&#8230;.Barth and Bonhoeffer were not interested in those games, loved some Trinity, didn&#8217;t need to put a word between Jesus Christ (ex. Jesus as the Christ), and had no trouble lecturing on eschatology.  Hope you get the idea &#8211; the 20th century&#8217;s orthodox articulators knew the God of Israel who was incarnate in Jesus took sides and I think they could help us out today&#8230;..and of course they can&#8217;t get run out of town.</p>
<blockquote><p>God always takes His stand unconditionally and passionately on this side and on this side alone: against the lofty and on behalf of the lowly; against those who already enjoy right and privilege and on behalf of those who are denied it and deprived of it&#8230;.The Command of God is a call for the championing of the weak against every kind of encroachment on the part of the strong. &#8211; Karl Barth</p></blockquote>
<p>Bonhoeffer here describes the place from which the church should examine and assess a situation, the place from which one can come to see reality as a Christian&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>It remains an experience of unmatched value that we have learned to see the great events of history from the underside, from the perspective of the eliminated, the suspect, the abused, the powerless, the oppressed, and the ridiculed, in short, from the perspective of the suffering.</p></blockquote>
<p>How would our present economic impasse and the conflict and conversations around it be different if this divine command was on our hearts?  How would the budget negotiations, taxes, spending, and debt appear from the perspective of America&#8217;s underside?</p>
<p>What would it take for the church and its leaders to admit we really to suck at being faithful both in our own material existence and in our fidelity to God&#8217;s dream for the world in our church leadership?</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On this holiday when we remember those who served and died, there are so many interesting things that get presented and portrayed in regards to our national storyline. Some of them are valiant and deep, others are pithy and cliched. There is one, however, that gets used pretty flippantly and after I hear it a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On this holiday when we remember those who served and died, there are  so many interesting things that get presented and portrayed in regards  to our national storyline. Some of them are valiant and deep, others are  pithy and cliched. There is one, however, that gets used pretty  flippantly and after I hear it a dozen times or so, it starts to grate  on me a little bit.</p>
<p><strong>“Freedom isn’t free”.</strong> You see on T-shirts, bumper stickers and hear it is discussions about past wars. I get it. I see what is behind the saying.<br />
No, freedom isn’t free &#8211; not in this world of selfish sin (on a small  scale) and dominating Empire (on a big scale) but I think that it is  important to make two clarifications about this saying.</p>
<p><strong>Freedom is not solely the result of our military &#8211; and freedom is not all our military does.</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>The first one is important to clarify because in our <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm1B7x5JZfE" target="_blank">Military Industrial Complex</a> (Dwight Eisenhower warned of it and those who profit from it in his  farewell speech), our the freedom that we enjoy is not bestowed  by  military action. That is not the source of our freedoms.</li>
<li>The  second one is important to clarify because freedom is not the only  business that America’s foreign policy participates in. The US  involvement in S. America, Asia, Africa and Europe is not simply  explained as a ‘force for freedom’. There is a lot more going on than  just a heart for global democracy.</li>
</ul>
<p>I think this is  appropriate to address on occasions like Memorial Day. It is not  dishonoring to those who served and died to use our freedoms in order to  call for accountability for America’s addiction to militarism or to  examine America’s foreign policy.</p>
<p>In fact, seen from my point of  view &#8211; it is downright honoring to utilize my freedom this way and it  demonstrates an appreciation for the exact freedom that allows me to  spend time on this day off to do so.</p>
<p>It seems more essential than ever in the current budget crisis.</p>
<p>Gareth Higgins said in his interview<a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/05/18/the-goose-is-loose-with-gareth-higgins-homebrewed-christianity-102/" target="_blank"> (Homebrewed  102) </a>that looking at the budget and not accounting for the (<em>untouchable</em>) military expenditure is like being on weight watcher and not counting any of the points of an unhealthy breakfast and wondering why the program isn&#8217;t working.</p>
<p>It is one thing to say that our freedom comes at a price. No one is debating that. But to not count the cost and then wonder why we are flirting with bankruptcy is just foolishness disguised as patriotism.</p>
<p>On this Memorial Day, I am already dreading September 11th &#8211; the Ten year celebrations and the unquestioned, unchallenged national story.</p>
<p>What we need is <em><strong>theological </strong></em>examination of where freedom comes from and what is the real price.</p>
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