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		<title>Is this even Christianity?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[This past Monday I caught wind of a cooky Southern preacher who preached about a plan to exterminate lesbians, queers and homosexuals. I hear a lot of chatter about this kind of thing so I hoped it would just go away. By Tuesday night this North Carolina pastor was showing up all over Facebook and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This past Monday I caught wind of a cooky Southern preacher who preached about a plan to exterminate lesbians, queers and homosexuals. I hear a lot of chatter about this kind of thing so I hoped it would just go away.</p>
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<p>By Tuesday night this North Carolina pastor was showing up all over Facebook and Twitter. By Wednesday morning he was the ‘most popular’ link on all of Yahoo! <em>world </em>homepage.</p>
<p>If you have not seen this video, be warned. It is in no way understated. Here is the link:  <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/pastor-delivers-anti-gay-rant-suggests-building-electric-142753831.html;_ylt=AlpRLZAQ2Mw4EkXBPNy3us1vaA8F;_ylu=X3oDMTNqcnBpcmhxBGNjb2RlA2N0LmMEcGtnA2RhZDFjY2E2LTE1ZWEtM2QxZS1hZWVkLTAyZWI1NDhlNGIwNgRwb3MDMQRzZWMDbW9zdF9wb3B1bGFyBHZlcgM3NzgxNGRkMC1hNDJhLTExZTEtYmVmYi1lMDkzY2Q2NzQzMTU-;_ylg=X3oDMTFlamZvM2ZlBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdAMEcHQDc2VjdGlvbnM-;_ylv=3  " target="_blank">NC Pastor </a></p>
<p><strong> I have 3 main thoughts about this:</strong></p>
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<li>I know tons of people who are not for &#8216;same sex marriage&#8217; who would not speak of electric fences. Anytime you are suggesting some tactic that the Germans used in WWII you may want to take note.</li>
<li>This is a different <em>TYPE</em> of Christianity &#8211; one that is the concerned with governing morals. We going to have to address why the church is even doing State sanctioned marriage in the first place. So often we try to have the second conversation without the first &#8211; no wonder it doesn&#8217;t go anywhere.</li>
<li>My church and 50 others that I know of and communicate with on a regular basis do kind things and say loving words all the time and no one press covers it. That is the nature of the modern media. <em>Deal with it.</em></li>
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<p>Nothing thus far is that surprising &#8211; save the actual sermon by the NC Pastor. <strong>Here is my concern:</strong></p>
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<li>At what point is some pastor so deep in the Constantinian compromise that he is more Roman than Christ-like? At some point do we say ‘that is not even Christian’ ?</li>
<li><strong>OR</strong> is this just <em>one branch</em> of Christianity and it is our obligation to treat this man as a brother who has simply lost his way?</li>
<li><strong>OR</strong> is this Preacher doing more harm than good and actually crippling the gospel message &#8211; and in that sense he is an enemy of our cause?  And at that point, what do we do with Jesus’ admonition to love our enemy?</li>
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<p><span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong>Admission:</strong></span> I have been re-reading <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/1842272616/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Stuart Murray’s Post-Christendom</a> and &#8230; while that is admittedly probably not the best idea &#8230; I have to admit that this whole ‘legislating civil unions and marriages’ thing in North Carolina could not come at a worse time for me.</p>
<p>For what it is worth, here is my 2 cents.</p>
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<li><strong>This is not Christianity.</strong> Well, it might be Christendom but it is not whatever Jesus was after.</li>
<li><strong>This guy is my brother</strong> (in humanity even if not christianity) and has simply lost his way.</li>
<li>Whether he is my crazy cousin or my enemy &#8211; <strong>Christ compels me</strong> to love and respect him as a person even as I wholly (and holy) disagree with his inhuman and immoral speech.</li>
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<p>I’m not really sure what other course of action I have in this situation. I spent last week in the woods with no technology and unless I want to perpetually retreat away from all this ugliness, I have got to address this kind of craziness at some level. What else is there in the face of hate except to love?</p>
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		<title>Pastors Should Follow Obama &amp; Stop Evolving!</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 09:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tripp Fuller</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unless you spent yesterday hiding in the woods you heard that our President came out publicly in support of gay marriage.  He was already the most aggressive Presidential advocate the LGTBQ has had, over turning Don&#8217;t Ask Don&#8217;t Tell, giving executive orders to secure legal rights for gay partners, and ending executive support for the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/barackobama"><img class="alignleft  wp-image-8308" title="ssm559601_10150863635906749_6815841748_9563569_224219918_n" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/ssm559601_10150863635906749_6815841748_9563569_224219918_n-300x300.jpg" alt="" width="180" height="180" /></a>Unless you spent yesterday hiding in the woods you heard that our <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-obama-gay-marriage-20120510,0,2388028.story">President came out publicly in support of gay marriage</a>.  He was already the most aggressive Presidential advocate the LGTBQ has had, over turning Don&#8217;t Ask Don&#8217;t Tell, giving executive orders to secure legal rights for gay partners, and ending executive support for the defense of marriage act, so one could think that this public announcement isn&#8217;t a significant shift in policy at all and in the end a liability for re-election.  Regardless of any long term consequences, <a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/tonyjones/2012/05/09/obama-gets-off-the-pot-on-gay-marriage/">I am proud of Obama</a> when he said that &#8220;In the end the values that I care most deeply about and she (Michelle) cares most deeply about is how we treat other people.&#8221;</p>
<p>You see <strong>for those who pay attention to how he has served as President we already knew what he thought.</strong>  He has been actively supporting the recognition of equal rights for the gay community throughout his first term.  <strong>Obama was never evolving personally</strong> in the White House.  What has happened is Obama finally let his conscious speak on an issue that is divided and contentious because it was becoming humorous to here again that his mind is &#8216;evolving&#8217; while acting like his mind was settled.  Yet <em>there is something powerful about the one occupying the White House to <a href="http://www.believeoutloud.com/">believe it out loud</a>!  I wonder if the same wouldn&#8217;t be true if more Christian leaders stopped evolving and started speaking.</em></p>
<p><strong><a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/believeoutloud.jpg"><img class="wp-image-8309 alignright" title="believeoutloud" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/believeoutloud-300x122.jpg" alt="" width="240" height="98" /></a>Obama&#8217;s situation is not much different than many Christian leaders</strong> throughout the country whose jobs and personal security necessitate keeping the mysterious &#8216;independents&#8217; and &#8216;moderates&#8217; more happy with you than the other options.  The number of influential pastors of large churches, seminary professors, and denominational leaders who have been walking the &#8216;evolving&#8217; tight-rope around gay marriage in the church are huge.  Just from personal conversations I can think of 15 well known church leaders who would loose their jobs if their actual conviction as a Christian was known.  If you ask these individuals who have dedicated their lives to the service of the church what they really believe they are open and affirming to the full inclusion of the LGTBQ community into the church and yet their public stance is &#8216;evolving.&#8217;</p>
<p>Just this past week a <a href="http://www.thefellowship.info/conference">Cooperative Baptist Fellowship</a> minister from North Carolina said regarding Amendment One, &#8220;It&#8217;s sad that the only three people at the church voting against the amendment are the three ordained ministers and the congregation will never know.&#8221;  That is a sad but all too frequent decision by many.</p>
<p><strong>It is my hope that my Brother in Christ Obama&#8217;s risky move to make his personal convictions known will inspire the <a href="http://taddelay.com/blog/13494269#.T6uAjr-ENFw">silent</a> &#8216;evolving&#8217; leaders in the church to do the same</strong>.  Maybe then we can <a href="http://rachelheldevans.com/win-culture-war-lose-generation-amendment-one-north-carolina">end the culture war</a> that is costing the church its integrity with a generation and communicating hatred toward our gay brothers and sisters.</p>
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		<title>Our Double Theology of Debt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Keating</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We all have to pay our debts right? Isn&#8217;t that the moral thing to do? This is so self-evidently true to us that it seems ludicrous for anyone to challenge it. But that&#8217;s exactly what David Graeber does in his important book Debt: The First 5,000 Years. I&#8217;ve been doing a series of posts on the book over [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/debt.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-8270" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/debt-200x300.jpg" alt="" width="200" height="300" /></a>We all have to pay our debts right? Isn&#8217;t that the moral thing to do? This is so self-evidently true to us that it seems ludicrous for anyone to challenge it. But that&#8217;s exactly what David Graeber does in his important book <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/1933633867/?tag=homebrechrist-20">Debt: The First 5,000 Years</a>. </em>I&#8217;ve been doing a series of posts on the book over on my <a href="http://stephenkeating.wordpress.com/category/david-graeber/debt-the-first-5000-years/">personal blog</a> and Tripp asked me to follow up his post on <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2012/05/01/student-debt-is-killing-the-church/">student loan debt</a>.</p>
<p>Discussions of debt quickly turn into moral arguments and because we have forgotten that interest was a technology created by humans, we forget that there is nothing natural about it. Other cultures have rejected the idea of interest, as shown by the following funny story of the Sufi philosopher Nasruddin:<br />
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<blockquote><p>One day Nasruddin&#8217;s neighbor, a notorious miser, came by to announce he was throwing a party for some friends. Could he borrow some of Nasruddin&#8217;s pots? Nasruddin didn&#8217;t have many but said he was happy to lend whatever he had. The next day the miser returned, carry Nasruddin&#8217;s three pots, and one tiny additional one. &#8220;What&#8217;s that? asked Nasruddin. &#8220;Oh, that&#8217;s the offspring of the pots. They reproduced during the time they were with me.&#8221; Nasruddin shrugged and accepted them, and the miser left happy that he had established a principle of interest. A month later, Nasruddin was throwing a party, and he went over to borrow a dozen pieces of his neighbor&#8217;s much more luxurious crockery.  The miser complied. Then he waited a day. And then another&#8230; On the third day, the miser came by and asked what had happened to his pots. &#8220;Oh, them?&#8221; Nasurddin said sadly. &#8220;It was a terrible tragedy. They died.&#8221; <em>~Quoted from Debt</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Why does the morality of debt repayment focus solely on the debtor? Graeber argues that we have a double theology of debt, one for the creditors and one for the debtors. The proponents of this double theology use the economic term &#8220;supply-side economics.&#8221; This theology/economic theory was taught to me in my Economics 101 class in college and is championed by the religious right. You may balk at the linking of economic theory and theology, but examine this stunning example summarized from George Gilder&#8217;s <em>Wealth and Poverty</em>:</p>
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<blockquote><p>Gilder&#8217;s argument was that those who felt that money could not simply be created were mired in an old-fashioned, godless materialism that did not realize that just as God could create something out of nothing, His greatest gift to humanity was creativity itself, which proceeded in exactly the same way. Investors can indeed create value out of nothing by their willingness to accept the risk entailed in placing their faith in others&#8217; creativity. Rather than seeing the imitation of God&#8217;s powers of creation <em>ex nihilo</em> as hubris, Gilder argued that it was precisely what God intended: the creation of money was a gift, a blessing, a channeling of grace; a promise, yes, but not one that can be fulfilled, even if the bonds are contually rolled over, because through faith (in &#8220;God we trust&#8221; again) their value becomes reality.</p></blockquote>
<p>With reflections like these, supply-side economics became the de facto theological ideology of the religious right, with Pat Robertson going so far as to declare it as &#8220;the first truly divine theory of money-creation.&#8221; Within this theology, it is imperative that the debtors must always repay. While the creditors are lauded as God&#8217;s instrument for the <em>ex nihilo</em> creation of endless wealth. The &#8220;job creators/risk takers&#8221; are the saints, while those in debt are the wretched sinners. This theology is so widespread that it has been naturalized in our thinking. It doesn&#8217;t even occur to the new atheists to challenge it.</p>
<p>But how did we get to here? This perverse reversal of theology into a means of perpetual bondage for debtors could not be any farther from the liberative texts of the bible. They are unanimous and univocal in their condemnation of all forms interest and differentiating wealth. Jose Porofino Miranda, in <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/1592444687/?tag=homebrechrist-20">Communism and the Bible</a>, says the condemnation of differentiating wealth in the Bible is &#8220;so obvious and abundant that it will show us the prodigies of tergiversation (the evasion of clarity) and voluntary blindness that the theologians and exegetes, and even the translators of the Bible, have had to deploy in order to muffle a book whose solitary intent was the change the world and eliminate injustice.&#8221;</p>
<p>In that book, Miranda undertakes a detailed examination of the texts, but I want <img class="alignright" src="http://odewire.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/money_morality1.jpg" alt="" width="280" height="210" />to highlight one important point. Without a single exception, every time that the word for interest is used in the Bible, it is condemned. Deuteronomy 23:19 condemns it three times &#8220;You shall not charge interest on loans to another Israelite, interest on money, interest on provisions, interest on anything that is lent.&#8221; The universal condemnation of usury is not isolated to Liberation Theologians, but was well-known to the early church. Take for example this excerpt from a sermon by St. Basil from 365 CE:</p>
<blockquote><p>The Lord gave His own injunction quite plainly in the words, &#8220;from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.&#8221; But what of the money lover? He sees before him a man under stress of necessity bent to the ground in supplication. He sees him hesitating at no act, no words, of humiliation. He sees him suffering undeserved misfortune, but he is merciless. He does not reckon that he is a fellow-creature. He does not give in to his entreaties. He stands stiff and sour. He is moved by no prayers; his resolution is broken by no tears. He persists in refusal. <strong>Then the suppliant mentions interest, </strong>and utters the word security. All is changed. The frown is relaxed; with a genial smile he recalls old family connection. Now it is &#8220;my friend.&#8221; <em>(emphasis added)</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Notice how Basil&#8217;s moralizing is the direct opposite of today&#8217;s, he condemns the one who lends. It only took a short while after the cross-bearers became allied with the cross-builders for the theology to change. The theology of the Hebrew prophets, Jesus, and the rest of the bible is one-way: the way of liberation. Interest isn&#8217;t natural. It&#8217;s evil.</p>
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		<title>Hell On Earth: A Sex Trafficking Survivor&#8217;s Story</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 18:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[*****Warning: this post contains graphic details of a sex trafficking story.***** This is the testimony of a young woman I met last week on my trip to Tijuana with Centro Romero. She was extremely courageous to share her story with us. The transcript below is translated from her Spanish: &#8220;I was sold to a gentleman [...]]]></description>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 20px; margin-left: 0px; padding: 0px;">This is the testimony of a young woman I met last week on my trip to Tijuana with <a title="" href="http://www.theromerocenter.org/index.html" target="_self">Centro Romero</a>. She was extremely courageous to share her story with us. The transcript below is translated from her Spanish:</p>
<p>&#8220;I was sold to a gentleman from the U.S. by my sister when I was 13 years old. I already had a baby. In the exchange, I was sold under the agreement that he would help me out with my kid because my baby was ill. I ended up being trafficked to Anchorage, Alaska. He basically kidnapped my baby away from me and didn&#8217;t allow me to see him. I was in prison, not able to see anyone for a long, long time. At that time, I was forced to have sex with men and women. Obviously, I was aware that my baby was not getting the care that we were promised. Our diet was basically rice and beans and nothing else. At the main market, at least in my case, I was 14, about to be 15, I was sold to have sex with other women.</p>
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<p>&#8220;So, unfortunately my baby&#8217;s condition got worse. He never allowed me to see my baby and my baby was never provided with the medical care he needed, even when he was in the process of dying, he never thought about providing care for my baby. My baby had leukemia at the time, but of course I didn&#8217;t know that.</p>
<p>&#8220;Probably because of my mothering instinct, one day I decided that I didn&#8217;t care what happened, I needed to take care of my baby. So I found a way to escape and to take my baby to a place in which I was pretty sure that he would get the care that he needed. But the problem was that I didn&#8217;t know where I was going, I didn&#8217;t know the area or the town or even where I was. And unfortunately my baby passed away.</p>
<p>&#8220;When I ended up getting to a place, before my baby passed away, the people that received me didn&#8217;t want to take care of my baby. After the baby passed away, due to the lack of care, I noticed that I suddenly started receiving gifts. As I think about it now, I think they were probably trying to keep my mouth shut because they didn&#8217;t want me to denounce them or anything like that.</p>
<p>&#8220;After my baby passed away, instead of burying him, they invited me to cremate my baby. It was a tough situation for me because I was only 15, so I didn&#8217;t know exactly what I was doing. After my baby was cremated, the only thing that I had to be in touch with what I felt was a part of me was the ashes. Unfortunately, he basically kidnapped the ashes and I was recaptured and put out to have sex once again. I used to cry, just asking him to allow me to touch the ashes of my baby, but he never allowed me to do that.</p>
<p>&#8220;One time, after the cremation of my baby, I was forced to have sex with a woman and him, and he was so involved with what was happening that I was able to escape through a window. I was able to make contact with a policeman and they took me to a place where they used to take minors who are in trouble. Because I didn&#8217;t know any English, they kept asking me where I was from. They kept me in the shelter for minors for a few months.</p>
<p>&#8220;I found out that the man who bought me was 33 years-old, that he had a criminal record as a sex offender, and had been involved with minors in the past. But he, as a predator, kept looking for me. After a few months in the care of the police department, I realized that I was once again pregnant.</p>
<p>&#8220;He showed up, presenting himself as a relative. He promised me that he would be gentle with me if I came back to his place. Without the support of the police department, being 15, I didn&#8217;t have any option other than to believe in him again. At least during my pregnancy he was very loving. But, after the birth of my baby, as soon as my baby was born, he put me under the &#8220;care&#8221; of the immigration officers. He told them that I didn&#8217;t have the capacity to care for my baby and that my first baby had passed away because I physically abused him.</p>
<p>&#8220;I was deported from Anchorage to Tijuana. Even under those conditions, I started working at a bar in Tijuana because I wanted to put some money together for airfare in order to go back to Alaska for my baby. And I ended up going back to Alaska. I was looking for my baby and then my abuser kept telling me not to leave him because he was finally in love with me. He was getting government support because he was a single father. He asked the government to facilitate the process of getting a house for the family in San Diego county. Two months after that, we got a house in San Diego and he moved himself to San Diego, but without me because I had to come back to Tijuana. He promised that he would bring my baby girl to Tijuana so I could see my daughter. But, if I wanted to see her, I had to pay him $100.</p>
<p>&#8220;My pain and suffering was just too much, so I decided to give up and think that my baby was dead in the same way that I lost my first child. I decided to stay away from him. Even though being apart from him would hurt me a lot because of my child, I knew that it was the best thing that I could do for me and for her.&#8221;</p>
<p>At this point she was overcome and unable to continue the story.</p>
<p><a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/ProtectingChildrenfromSexTrafficking.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-8262" title="ProtectingChildrenfromSexTrafficking" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/ProtectingChildrenfromSexTrafficking-198x300.jpg" alt="" width="198" height="300" /></a>I&#8217;ve struggled with what to say to close this post. The hell on earth that this precious young woman experienced is devastating. Unfortunately, there is no simple solution to the problem of sex trafficking. It is a global and complex problem. But I want to issue a challenge to men: We are the primary source of the demand for sex trafficking and we must begin to challenge the male-culture that says that putting others down makes us feel better about ourselves. Every single time that we make a joke about rape, call a girl a slut or a whore, or objectify women through pornography, we contribute to a culture that makes possible the stories like the one above. The fact that we are unaware that there are literally millions of stories like the one above shows how desperately we try to suppress them. If we want to end sex trafficking, we must start with ourselves.</p>
<p>* This is a guest post from<a href="../2012/04/28/2012/04/27/what-is-sex-trafficking/@stephenmk"> Stephen Keating</a> who is covering this sex trafficking conference for HBC.  Thanks to Stephen for sharing what he’s learning with us!</p>
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		<title>The Slave Trade Chain</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2012 21:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I emphasized some statistics in the last post, but now I want to share a story. How does a girl become a trafficking victim? Friday afternoon our group from Centro Romero went into Tijuana and visited several different sites. We met a man (I&#8217;ve omitted his name for safety) in Tijuana who runs a safe [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I emphasized some statistics in the <a title="" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2012/04/27/what-is-sex-trafficking/" target="_self">last post</a>, but now I want to share a story. How does a girl become a trafficking victim? Friday afternoon our group from <a title="" href="http://www.theromerocenter.org/" target="_self">Centro Romero</a> went into Tijuana and visited several different sites. We met a man (I&#8217;ve omitted his name for safety) in Tijuana who runs a safe house for girls told us about the economic chain involved. The trafficking occurs along a well-established route:</p>
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<p>A large number of victims are taken from communities of extreme poverty in places like Honduras and Guatemala. Traffickers go down into these communities and identify potential children. They approach the mother of the child and say &#8220;That&#8217;s a beautiful daughter, can I buy her for $100?&#8221; Because of the extreme poverty, lack of education, and the dire needs of their large families, the mothers often agree to sell their children (often with the added incentive of violence). Once the traffickers have purchsed the children, they are moved to port towns and then on to warehouses in Chiapas (southern Mexico). In these huge warehouses, there are rows and rows of children with signs hung around their neck with prices. Brothel owners, pimps, and other traffickers go to the warehouse to purchase the children for approximately $200-500. They are then moved from southern Mexico up to border towns like Tijuana. At this point, the children are sold again for $500-2000. In Tijuana, a girl on the street can be propositioned by U.S. &#8220;sex tourists&#8221; for 10 minutes for $40. A very young girl will go for $200-500, virgins for even higher. Pratically anything you want, if you have the money, you can get. The girls are sold to 10-15 times a day.</p>
<p>Some of the girls are moved from town to town to keep their profits high. Others are moved across the border. Traffickers may connect with Americans and pay them to use their children&#8217;s birth certificates to move the trafficked child into America. Once in America, they are sold for approximately $15,000.</p>
<p>This whole process can occur in 15-30 days. Throughout the process, the children are raped and their spirits are broken. They are manipulated into believing that they are worthless. Pictures of their brothers and sisters are shown to them and they are told that If they ever speak out to anyone, their family will be attacked.</p>
<p>The Mexican government estimates that 137,000 children, women, and men are currently caught in this chain. In reality, that number is probably much, much higher.</p>
<p>* This is a guest post from<a href="../2012/04/27/what-is-sex-trafficking/@stephenmk"> Stephen Keating</a> who is covering this sex trafficking conference for HBC.  Thanks to Stephen for sharing what he’s learning with us!</p>
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		<title>What Is Sex Trafficking?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 16:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This weekend I&#8217;m at the Romero Center in sunny San Ysidro, CA. We are just south of San Diego and a 5 minute walk from the Mexican border town of Tijuana. Dr. Carlos J. Correa Bernier, the director of the center, is hosting a Sex Trafficking Consultation and we have an incredible group of participants [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This weekend I&#8217;m at the <a title="" href="http://www.theromerocenter.org/index.html" target="_self">Romero Center</a> in sunny San Ysidro, CA. We are just south of San Diego and a 5 minute walk from the Mexican border town of Tijuana. Dr. Carlos J. Correa Bernier, the director of the center, is hosting a Sex Trafficking Consultation and we have an incredible group of participants (just one example: Sally, a retired opthamologist from a UCC church in Laguna Beach who participates in a yearly medical missions trip for a month in El Salvador).</p>
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<p>If you&#8217;re like me, sex trafficking is something that you may have heard of but are not aware of the extent of the problem. The immersion program at the Romero Center focuses on sexual exploitation on both the Mexican and U.S. sides of the border. We learned today about how the problem of trafficking is shockingly huge. Estimates vary, but anywhere from 12-45 million people are victims of human trafficking each year worldwide. That&#8217;s almost 1 person in modern-day slavery for every 1,000 people on the planet. Women, men, and children are trafficked from or within almost every country.</p>
<p>So what is human trafficking? In short, it is the recruiting, harboring, and/or moving of people. Traffickers use force, fraud, or violence to obtain their victims. There are a number of purposes that people are trafficked for, including: involuntary servitude, debt bondage, slavery, and sex. Human trafficking is the third most profitable illegal industry behind the trafficking of drugs and weapons. This is not just a problem &#8220;out there&#8221; in the &#8216;third-world&#8217; but it is something that we are tied up in. After Germany, the U.S. is the second largest destination/market for sex slavery in the world. But it&#8217;s not just sex, many of the products that we buy in our stories are the result of slave labor (take the <a title="" href="http://www.slaveryfootprint.org" target="_self">slavery footprint quiz</a>).</p>
<p>We have a hard time imagining that there could be such a huge problem, especially within our own borders. Partly, this is because we have bought into the ideology of progress which says that our system is the most efficient that the world has ever seen and things are better than they have ever been. These ideas have been shaken a bit in recent years by the economic downturn, but regardless of how true or untrue our belief in progress is, it makes it very difficult to recognize that slavery is not over. We have a culture-wide denial of the real problems that vulnerable people in our world face.</p>
<p>As people of faith, this should be deeply troubling to us. The book of Amos, one of the prophets in the Hebrew scriptures, begins with a list of nations that God will soon judge, all enemies of the Israelites. It is easy to imagine myself in the crowd as the prophet proclaimed the message. &#8220;Yeah God, go get those evil people! All of <em>our </em>enemies are going down!&#8221; I cry as Amos lists off offence after offence. As the crowd moves into a frenzy of judgment and condemnation of the pagans, Amos turns the tables: &#8220;God says: For the sins of Israel, I will not hold back punishment; because they sell the righteous for silver, and the needy for a pair of sandals.&#8221; (2:6) With our insatiable desire for cheap food, cheap clothes, and cheap sex, we have sold the needy for a pair of sandals. How long must the victims wait for us to change our ways?</p>
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<p>Tomorrow we&#8217;ll be heading into Tijuana to meet and speak to both victims and local activists. Check back in to the blog for more updates and tweet me <a title="" href="http://twitter.com/stephenmk" target="_self">@stephenmk</a> if you have any questions.  This is a guest post from<a href="@stephenmk"> Stephen Keating</a> who is covering this sex trafficking conference for HBC.  Thanks to Stephen for sharing what he&#8217;s learning with us!</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 07:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ I am busy editing and reworking my keynote for the Sustainable Faith conference later this week in St. Petersburg Florida.  I was going back and forth between making a biblical illusion to either Noah or Job when I read this post by Church historian Bill Leonard.  Now that he used it oh so well in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/1330004.png"><img class="wp-image-8184 alignleft" title="1330004" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/1330004.png" alt="" width="234" height="144" /></a> I am busy editing and reworking my keynote for the <a href="http://asustainablefaith.snappages.com/">Sustainable Faith conference later</a> this week in St. Petersburg Florida.  I was going back and forth between making a biblical illusion to either Noah or Job when I read this post by Church historian Bill Leonard.  Now that he used it <a href="http://www.abpnews.com/content/view/7305/"><em>oh so well</em> in this post I guess I will link i</a>t and go for Job!  If you are local come <a href="http://asustainablefaith.snappages.com/home.htm">join us</a> for a conversation on &#8220;ecology, incarnation and the interconnectedness.&#8221;</p>
<p>As for Noah, Bill Leonard asks a bunch of questions &#8211; good ones.  Be wise.  Listen to his awesome <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/08/16/the-history-and-transformation-of-american-christianity-with-bill-leonard-homebrewed-christianity-114/">visit to the podcast</a> &amp; go check out his <a href="http://www.abpnews.com/content/view/7305/">post on Noah</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>When did the people of Noah’s day finally realize that what was happening to them was more than just a stationary front? <strong>Why do some religious folks take the Noah story literally but resist the possibility of a contemporary global catastrophe, one essentially of human creation?</strong></p>
<p>Is biblical literalism clearer for the past than the present? How many glaciers must collapse and heat waves smolder before we literally read the “signs of the times?”</p>
<p><strong>Wouldn’t it be weird if “secularists” turned out to be the ones who discerned earth’s impending judgment on our lives and lifestyles?</strong> What if global warming is true and we don’t have sense enough to see the planet itself as ark?</p>
<p>Like Noah, we still could labor together to find “grace in the eyes of the Lord.” Or just turn up the church air conditioning.</p></blockquote>
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<p>If you wondered exactly what our modern day Noah has to say check out <a href="http://paulgilding.com/">Paul Gilding&#8217;</a>s recent TED talk &#8216;the earth is full.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>Power &amp; Politics in Theology with Laurel Schneider</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 07:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why should everyone care about theology?  Laurel Schneider joins us this week for some good theo-nerding.  We have too much fun tackling just a few non-controversal theological topics like&#8230;Politics, Culture, Power, Social Justice, Feminism, Church History, Economics, Freedom, Liberty, Queer Theory, Occupy Wall Street, Ayn Rand, Karl Barth, Capitalism, Democracy, and a few other goodies. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why should everyone care about theology?  Laurel Schneider joins us this week for some good theo-nerding.  We have too much fun <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/progressivechristians030512.jpg"><img class="alignright  wp-image-8181" title="progressivechristians030512" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/progressivechristians030512-300x180.jpg" alt="" width="240" height="144" /></a>tackling just a few non-controversal theological topics like&#8230;Politics, Culture, Power, Social Justice, Feminism, Church History, Economics, Freedom, Liberty, Queer Theory, Occupy Wall Street, Ayn Rand, Karl Barth, Capitalism, Democracy, and a few other goodies.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ctschicago.edu/index.php/mnuacademicprograms/faculty/82-laurel-schneider"><img class="alignleft" src="http://www.ctschicago.edu/images/stories/faculty_schneider.jpg" alt="" width="132" height="192" />Laurel Schneider</a> is Professor of Theology, Ethics, and Culture at the <a href="http://www.ctschicago.edu/">Chicago School of Theol</a>ogy.  If you are wise you have surely gotten yourself a copy of Laurel&#8217;s edited volume <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0415781361/?tag=homebrechrist-20">Polydoxy: Theology of Multiplicity and Relation</a> </em>since both <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/07/20/process-poetry-post-structuralism-with-catherine-keller-homebrewed-christianity-112/">Catherine Keller</a> and <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2010/10/12/religious-pluralism-nondualism-and-polydoxy-with-john-thatamanil-homebrewed-christianity-86/">John Thatamanil</a> have discussed it on previous episodes.  Now you just got check out Laurel&#8217;s <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0415941911/?tag=homebrechrist-20">Beyond Monotheism: A Theology of Multiplicit</a>y</em>.</p>
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		<itunes:subtitle>Why should everyone care about theology?  Laurel Schneider joins us this week for some good theo-nerding.  We have too much fun tackling just a few non-controversal theological topics like&#8230;Politics, Culture, Power, Social Justice, Feminism, Ch[...]</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Why should everyone care about theology?  Laurel Schneider joins us this week for some good theo-nerding.  We have too much fun tackling just a few non-controversal theological topics like&#8230;Politics, Culture, Power, Social Justice, Feminism, Church History, Economics, Freedom, Liberty, Queer Theory, Occupy Wall Street, Ayn Rand, Karl Barth, Capitalism, Democracy, and a few other goodies.
Laurel Schneider is Professor of Theology, Ethics, and Culture at the Chicago School of Theology.  If you are wise you have surely gotten yourself a copy of Laurel&#8217;s edited volume Polydoxy: Theology of Multiplicity and Relation since both Catherine Keller and John Thatamanil have discussed it on previous episodes.  Now you just got check out Laurel&#8217;s Beyond Monotheism: A Theology of Multiplicity.
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		<title>Hunger Games and a Better Atonement: TNT E-book Extravaganza</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 22:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bo Sanders</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Two of the podcast&#8217;s best friends have published E-books in last month and they are both here for a Theology Nerd Throwdown! First up, Bo chats with Julie Clawson about the book she wrote about the Hunger Games. (you can find her first podcast appearance here) Then Tripp and Bo skype with the self-appointed Sr. [...]]]></description>
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<p>Two of the podcast&#8217;s best friends have published E-books in last month and they are both here for a Theology Nerd Throwdown!</p>
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<p>First up, Bo chats with <a href="http://julieclawson.com/">Julie Clawson</a> about <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007HG1H0W/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">the book she wrote about the Hunger Games</a>. (you can find her <a title="Everyday Justice with Julie Clawson: Homebrewed Christianity 67" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2009/11/20/everyday-justice-with-julie-clawson-homebrewed-christianity-68/" target="_blank">first podcast appearance here</a>)</p>
<p>Then Tripp and Bo skype with the <em>self-appointed</em> Sr. Deacon &#8211; the Doctor! &#8211; <a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/tonyjones/">Tony Jones</a> about <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007MD0AK8/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">a Better Atonement</a>. (you can find <a title="Dr. Jones returns: Homebrewed 105" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/06/03/dr-jones-returns-homebrewed-105/" target="_blank">his most recent visit here</a>)</p>
<p>Join Brian McLaren, Doug Pagitt, Bernice Powell Jackson, Myself, &amp; others as we explore the connection of ecology, incarnation and the interconnectedness of all.  April 19-20 in St. Petersburg, Florida for the <a href="http://asustainablefaith.snappages.com/home.htm"><em>A Sustainable Faith Conference</em></a>.  Join me<a href="http://asustainablefaith.snappages.com/blog/2012/03/20/16-cigars-and-brews-gods-problem-the-origin-purpose-expiration-of-hell"> the day before for a cigar, brew, convo. on Hell, &amp; a discount for the e</a>vent. Sunday I will be preaching at <a href="http://www.themissiodei.com/">the Missio Dei</a>.</p>
<p>Tripp &amp; Bo are really excited about reading<a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0334043220/?tag=homebrechrist-20"> <em>Beyond the Spirit of Empire</em></a> &amp; Tony Jones is digging <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/019969527X/?tag=homebrechrist-20"><em>The Predicament of Belief</em> </a>by Philip Clayton.</p>
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Two of the podcast&#8217;s best friends have published E-books in last month and they are both here for a Theology Nerd Throwdown!
Click To Subscribe in iTunes...this SHOW is going SOLO!!!
First up, Bo chats with Julie Clawson about the book she wrote about the Hunger Games. (you can find her first podcast appearance here)
Then Tripp and Bo skype with the self-appointed Sr. Deacon &#8211; the Doctor! &#8211; Tony Jones about a Better Atonement. (you can find his most recent visit here)
Join Brian McLaren, Doug Pagitt, Bernice Powell Jackson, Myself, &#38; others as we explore the connection of ecology, incarnation and the interconnectedness of all.  April 19-20 in St. Petersburg, Florida for the A Sustainable Faith Conference.  Join me the day before for a cigar, brew, convo. on Hell, &#38; a discount for the event. Sunday I will be preaching at the Missio Dei.
Tripp &#38; Bo are really excited about reading Beyond the Spirit of Empire &#38; Tony Jones is digging The Predicament of Belief by Philip Clayton.
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		<title>The Death of the Liberals is killing us</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 19:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bo Sanders</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In chapter 1 of his book Death of Liberal Class, Chris Hedges sketches both the height of the Liberal era in the 19th century and its cataclysmic implosion with the arrival of World War in the 20th. The disillusionment of human evil, aggression, and suffering deflated the optimism of innate human goodness and inevitable progress [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In chapter 1 of his book <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/1568586795/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Death of Liberal Class</a></em>, Chris Hedges sketches both the height of the Liberal era in the 19th century and its cataclysmic implosion with the arrival of World War in the 20th. The disillusionment of human evil, aggression, and suffering deflated the optimism of innate human goodness and inevitable progress that Liberalism is founded upon.</p>
<p>To understand the profound impact of Liberalism&#8217;s demise, it helps to make sure one understands the difference between Classical Liberalism and it&#8217;s contemporary milquetoast descent that slinks around in <em>straw-man</em> form on our 24 hours news cycle.</p>
<p>Hedges explains (pp. 6-7) &#8220;Classical liberalism was formulated largely as a response to the dissolution of feudalism and church authoritarianism. &#8230; (It) has, the philosopher John Gray writes, four principle features, or perspectives, which give it a recognizable identity. It is :</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>individualist</strong>, in that it asserts the moral primacy of the person against any collectivity;</li>
<li><strong>egalitarian</strong>, in that it confers on all human beings the same basic moral status;</li>
<li><strong>universalist</strong>, affirming the moral unity of the species;</li>
<li>and <strong>meliorist</strong>, in that it asserts the openended improvability, by use of critical reason, of human life</li>
</ul>
<p>Both John Cobb (<a title="The Big Theological Throw Down with John Cobb &amp; Paul Capetz: Homebrewed Christianity 101" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/05/09/the-big-theological-throw-down-with-john-cobb-paul-capetz-homebrewed-christianity-101/" target="_blank">Mainline)</a>  and Clayton Crockett (<a title="Radical Political Theology with Clayton Crockett" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/11/23/radical-political-theology-with-clayton-crockett/" target="_blank">Radical Political Theology</a>) use very similar formulations in their recent Homebrewed  podcasts. Cobb, by focusing on the demise of the Mainline and Crocket, by focusing on the Evangelical and Religious Right, articulate the monumental shift in the religious-political landscape in the past century.</p>
<p>The Mainline denominations are in a c<em>ollapse narrative </em>and it makes perfect sense why when one examines both the way liberal thought partnered with power in the 20th Century and the way that conducted itself (largely) within the shifting landscape of post-war realities at home and globalization abroad.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;In a traditional democracy, the liberal class functions as a safety valve. It makes piecemeal and incremental reform possible. It offers hope for change and proposes gradual steps toward greater equality. It endows the state and the mechanisms of power with virtue. It also serves as an attack dog that discredits radical social movements, making the liberal class a useful component within the power elite. But the assault by the corporate state on the democratic state has claimed the liberal class as one of its victims&#8230;</p>
<p>The inability of the liberal class to acknowledge that corporations have wrested power from the hands of citizens, that the Constitution and its guarantees of personal liberty have become irrelevant, and that the phrase consent of the governed is meaningless, has left it speaking and acting in ways that no longer correspond to reality. It has lent its voice to hollow acts of political theater, and the pretense that democratic debate and choice continue to exist.&#8221;  (pp. 9-10)</p></blockquote>
<p>We <a title="Bending the Spectrum: Occupy the Tea Party" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2012/03/22/bending-the-spectrum-occupy-the-tea-party/" target="_blank">talked yesterday about the fictitious nature </a>of the supposed Left-Right spectrum.  For those of us who participate in christ centered communities and organizations, what does this mean?  While incomplete, here is my little experiment to come up with a game-plan for a start.</p>
<ol>
<li>We stop using the label &#8216;Liberal&#8217; generically for anything that is not Conservative&#8230; especially to be dismissive.  Liberal is a very specific ethical  framework and it takes quite a commitment to liberal. It is not a default position.</li>
<li>We disavow the left-right , conservative-liberal split as farcical. It doesn’t exist. Obama is a Centrist Democrat. Romney is a Centrist Republican. Any idea that Obama is a radical is ridiculous.* We repent of lazy language &amp; thought.</li>
<li>We wake up as the church that the role the Liberals used to play in the system does not function. There is no moderating or buffering presence to bring a corrective to the system. Thus, participating in the system <em>as-it-now-exists</em> will not fix the system. The corporate hold over every aspect of our political system is pervasive.</li>
<li>We step up as the church in the revelation that government is not going to fulfill the expectation to</li>
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<li>bring good news to the poor (Economy)</li>
<li>restore sight to the blind (Medical)</li>
<li>release to the captive  (Legal)</li>
<li>lift up the broken hearted (Compassion)</li>
</ul>
<p>The church can do these things! We have deferred to the political system for too long. <strong><span style="color: #008000;">We have outsourced our responsibility to society but now live with the remains of <em>the bloated carcass Christendom</em>.</span></strong> With the death of the liberal class resistance to <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/1551642085/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">corporate rule</a> and unchecked consumerism is impotent. The Citizen’s United ruling is just one step on long trail &#8230; but we know where it leads.<a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Everything-is-Fine.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-7974" title="Everything is Fine" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Everything-is-Fine-229x300.jpg" alt="" width="229" height="300" /></a></p>
<p>There are churches in every community and there may be no greater existing potential than us! **  I know it sounds dreamy, but in the rest of this series I want to flesh it out. By the end, it might not seem as far-fetched as it does right now.</p>
<p>- Bo Sanders</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><em>*Wall Street campaign funding, legalizing assassination, and Guantanamo Bay are your first 3 hints.<br />
**  The danger of course is that we keep voting based on two issues while turning a blind eye to  corporate rule, environmental deregulation, and perpetual war. </em></p>
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		<title>Bending the Spectrum: Occupy the Tea Party</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 15:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bo Sanders</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have never been a big fan of ‘spectrum’ thinking. The language of far left and far right  just rings hollow for me. It is insufficient for the most part and in the end, inaccurate. I read the book The Argument Culture by Deborah Tannen more than a decade ago and said out loud “Oh! [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never been a big fan of ‘spectrum’ thinking. The language of far left and far right  just rings hollow for me. It is insufficient for the most part and in the end, inaccurate.</p>
<p>I read the book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0345407512/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">The Argument Culture</a> by Deborah Tannen more than a decade ago and said out loud “<em>Oh! So THAT is why I bristle at the either/or, Republican/Democrat, Right/Left dichotomy! &#8211; now it makes sense.</em>”</p>
<p>I reject the spectrum at every turn &#8230; but recently I have begun to make an exception in regards to the spectrum. The spectrum is only applicable for someone who thinks that there <em>is</em> a spectrum. I will only try to get them to see that not everyone exists on a spectrum nor are they accounted for by a right-left binary. I no longer try to dislodge them of the notion as a whole &#8211; I only try to introduce that a spectrum is incomplete and insufficient.</p>
<p>Lately I have been overwhelmed &#8211; probably because it is an election year &#8211; by binary language and dualistic thinking. In these conversations I have discovered that it can be quite effective to introduce a simple word play. Spectrums are not straight lines &#8211; like light, they bend. <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/photogrpah-a-rainbow.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-7962" title="photogrpah-a-rainbow" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/photogrpah-a-rainbow-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p>You may think that this sounds overly simplistic but just think about the rise of the Tea-Party and the emergence of the Occupy movement coming in roughly the same window of time. Now those two groups would say that they stand for completely different things. To an outside observer, however, for all the minor distinctions they share a ‘Major’ concern: <span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong>the system is broken and we can’t trust our leaders to fix it. </strong></span></p>
<p>This week, I am starting a series on <a href="http://bosanders.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">my personal blog</a> working though <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/1568586795/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">the Death of the Liberal Class by Chris Hedges</a>. He begins the book with a 25 year old former Marine walking along a highway in Upstate NY that I driven. He is disillusioned with the economic and political systems and is getting ready to do something about it. At one point the young vet says:</p>
<blockquote><p>“I could see there was no difference between the two main political parties. There is a false left/right paradigm which diverts the working class from the real reasons for their hardships.”</p></blockquote>
<p>I am looking forward to the series in the exact inverse proportion to how much I am dreading this election cycle.* I have lots of Tea Party types in my life and many Occupy sympathizers as friends. I hear them both saying that the system is not working and that those in charge are not capable of fixing it, that <em>we the people</em> need to be more hands on.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Chris-Hedges/e/B001IR1G16/ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1?qid=1332397166&amp;sr=1-1" target="_blank">Chris Hedges </a>analyzes the crisis and articulates the root causes better than anyone I have found. The slant of the series will revolve around one simple question <strong>“If Hedges is right about the world – how then should we do theology? </strong></p>
<p>The Tea Party, the Occupy Movement, the global economic crisis and the ongoing wars are telling us something &#8230; and it is not about the End of Days. Doing theology in this environment will inherently have some continuity with historical approaches but it will require some tools that may not be familiar to us as well as some necessary innovations.</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff6600;"> The left and right think that they are far apart, but in a bent system they are closer than they would believe. At some point on an arc the far right and the far left almost touch. </span></p>
<p>I end the way Hedges begins, with a quote from George Orwell:</p>
<blockquote><p>At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which it is assumed that all right-thinking people will accept without question. It is not exactly forbidden to say this, that or the other, but it is “not done” to say it, just as in mid-Victorian times it was “not done” to mention trousers in the presence of a lady. Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with surprising effectiveness. A genuinely unfashionable opinion is almost never given a fair hearing, either in the popular press or in the highbrow periodicals. <em> “Freedom of the Press”</em></p></blockquote>
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<p><em>* <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Tavis-Smiley/e/B001HD172E/ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1?qid=1332396921&amp;sr=8-1" target="_blank">Tavis Smiley </a>has been saying for quite a while that this will be the ugliest and most racist election in modern times. </em></p>
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		<title>Kony 2012 and Apple&#8217;s Mr. Daisy</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[There were two stories in the news last week that fascinated me as I watched them unravel. The first was the meteoric rise of the viral 30 minute video Kony 2012 that took over Twitter, Facebook and Youtube. The second story was an NPR radio episode of This American Life about working conditions in the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There were two stories in the news last week that fascinated me as I watched them unravel. The first was the meteoric rise of the viral 30 minute video Kony 2012 that took over Twitter, Facebook and Youtube. The second story was an NPR radio episode of <em><a href="http://search.yahoo.com/r/_ylt=A0oGdXUshmdPKX0AI.dXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE2cTB0cjk5BHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA3NrMQR2dGlkA01TWUMwMDJfMTc2/SIG=13e7alaqe/EXP=1332213420/**http%3a//www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/454/mr-daisey-and-the-apple-factory" target="_blank">This American Life</a></em> about working conditions in the Apple factories in China. The story centered around a play/monologue by Mr. Daisy about his trip to China to investigate the matter. Over 1 million people had downloaded that NPR podcast &#8211; by far an all time record.</p>
<p><a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/IC.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-7939" title="IC" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/IC-300x199.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="199" /></a>Both stories turned tragic last week. Invisible Children, the group responsible for Kony 2012, <a href="http://africasacountry.com/2012/03/07/phony-2012-risible-children/" target="_blank">came under heavy criticism</a>. It turns out that the conflict as it was presented was not all that accurate &#8211; It had been accurate in the early 2000s but after 2004 no longer represented the true affairs of the country and Joseph Kony himself had left Uganda and migrated to a neighboring country.</p>
<p>People accused the film&#8217;s star Jason Russell  and his Invisible Children crew of knowingly misleading people and <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>falsifying content in order to elicit a greater emotional response</strong></span>.</p>
<p>The Apple story went down a similar road for Mr. Daisy. It turns out that he had taken some <em>artistic license</em> in presenting his one-man-show and that not everything he claims would qualify as &#8216;journalistic standard&#8217; of truthfulness. For instance, while he was in China for that week, he saw a news story about some factory workers in another province suffering horrible effects from a chemical. He never went to that province nor talked to those workers but just imported that story and connected it to his subject. The result was that this one factory seemed to be layers and layers of horrific working conditions &#8211; but in reality what was presented was an amalgamation of many factories in several provinces.</p>
<p>In the follow-up  interviews this weekend Mr. Daisy said that he took license with the facts because he wanted people to care about this. He knew that the conditions were bad and so <strong><span style="color: #008000;">orchestrated the story to draw a response.</span></strong></p>
<p><strong> These two stories, taken together, point to a series of issues that are relevant to the church and her theology.</strong></p>
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<p><span style="color: #808000;"><strong>The first issue is complacency</strong>.</span> Both of these ‘presenters’ knew that some <em>tweaks</em> and <em>modifications</em> needed to made in order to overcome our collective complacency. We see  so much bad, that unless something is really bad &#8211; it just doesn’t register. We are so overwhelmed with images, adverts, messages and pleas that unless something is sensational or horrific, we have evolved mechanisms and filters to catch it and screen it out.  The result is that we become complicit in maintaining the status-quo and passive participants in the system, structures and institutions that comprise the <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0385487525/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">‘Powers the Be’ </a>that Paul reference in Ephesians 6.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #808000;"><strong>The second issue is Paternalism.</strong></span> At some point white people from the West are going to have to stop thinking that the solution to what ails Africa or Asia is us coming over and fixing it.  Now, I applaud the generous heart behind both Invisible Children and Mr. Daisy but until we repent of our Colonial impulse and step away from that model of missions, we are going to continue to run<em> into</em> problems and run <em>over</em> the very folks we purport to be helping.</p>
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<li>We want to help &#8211; that is great.</li>
<li>We do it in <em>our</em> way &#8211; and that is hurtful.</li>
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<p>There is no doubt that in global system of international trade and foreign policy that the church must come to terms with our inter-connectivity and inter-relatedness in a way that transcends outdated clichés and antiquated platitudes of centuries past. We live in an evolving world that is experiencing exponential and radical change.</p>
<p>I love that good folks want to care about that and not just go shopping to bury their head in the sand. BUT until we repent of our ongoing paternalism and acknowledge the devastating effects of our colonial missions we will continue to replicate the harm and multiply the devastation.</p>
<p>As Christians, do we need to think through and address our participation in the global market and international structures that dominate our contemporary economy? Yes.</p>
<p><strong>If, however, we do not first repent of our Colonial missions mentality, we will continue  the pattern of paternalism and Imperial impulse that has created these very situations we want to address. </strong></p>
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<p><em>p.s. I know about <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/envoy/kony-2012-filmmaker-arrested-san-diego-205649394.html" target="_blank">Jason Russell&#8217;s <del>arrest</del> episode this weekend</a> but did not want to distract from the bigger issue. </em></p>
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		<title>Is it tough to blame John Piper for his tornado theology?</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grew up in the Midwest and tornado season was terrifying. I have never been in one but when the conditions are right the air is ominous.</p>
<p>I was on my lunch break today and I went to the Weather Channel website to read <a href="http://www.weather.com/outlook/weather-news/news/articles/tornado-outbreak-as-it-happened_2012-03-03" target="_blank">a fascinating set of articles about the conditions</a> that contributed to last week&#8217;s deadly swath of destruction.  I got a Tweet so I clicked over to Twitter to see what was going on. I scrolled down the stream and noticed that John Piper was getting a lot of pushback. After reading <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/blog/posts/fierce-tornadoes-and-the-fingers-of-god" target="_blank">his blog </a>on how God used the tornadoes to kill people  &#8230; I am left with some questions:</p>
<p>I have challenged Piper&#8217;s <a href="http://bosanders.wordpress.com/2011/09/01/earthquakes-hurricanes-and-politics/" target="_blank">tornado theology</a> (and suggested <a href="http://bosanders.wordpress.com/2011/09/05/a-better-way-to-read-the-bible/" target="_blank">a better way to read the Bible</a>) before and been told &#8220;You are mis-reading him. If you gave him the benefit of the doubt, you would see that he is really concerned about God&#8217;s glory.&#8221;</p>
<p>But in today&#8217;s post, <strong>he is saying exactly what I have been interpreting him as saying!</strong> Why do reformed folks think we are not getting his real message? Look, I get it &#8211; and I just don&#8217;t like it. Its not that I am misunderstanding him. I am understanding him and disagreeing. This is not semantics or rhetoric. We actually disagree on substance here.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s tough to be hard on somebody if they are consistent. But after reading Piper&#8217;s newest blog, I am a little bit turned around. He says:</p>
<blockquote><p>Therefore, God’s will for America under his mighty hand, is that every Christian, every Jew, every Muslim, every person of every religion or non-religion, turn from sin and come to Jesus Christ for forgiveness and eternal life. Jesus rules the wind. The tornadoes were his.</p></blockquote>
<p>He follows that up by saying &#8220;But before Jesus took any life in rural America, he gave his own on the rugged cross. Come to me, he says, to America.&#8221;</p>
<p>As I read Piper: Jesus sends tornadoes to punish the wicked. He also sends them to the righteous <em>because</em> they are righteous (to <em>show this</em> according to the blog). So here is my question: we are supposed to turn to Jesus because of the tornadoes, a turn to righteousness from wickedness &#8230; but then God causes tornadoes on the righteous too?</p>
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<div><strong>I am as turned around as a chickadee in a wind tunnel!</strong>  It seems to me that this is playing both sides of the chess board. The formula goes like this: Weather happens. You blame God. If you are wicked, it is a warning to you to turn from your wickedness that the weather may cease. If you are righteous, the weather was to demonstrate it as such and afford you the possibility of honoring God in the midst of the storm. <strong>Am I getting this right?<br />
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I said it was tough to blame Piper for holding this view. Tough, but not <em>too</em> tough.  It <em>seems</em> consistent &#8230; until you stop to consider it for more than 1 second.  I get a lot of heat in my circles for advocating for<a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0061853984/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank"> a New Kind of Christianity</a>. I question Piper&#8217;s reading of the Bible on tornadoes and before I know it I am called to defend the Creeds as a litmus test to prove my orthodoxy (small o).</div>
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<div>SO I will just go out on limb and say it. I find Piper&#8217;s tornado theology the stupidest thing I have ever heard &#8211; completely ignorant of any advances in meteorology let alone metaphysics &#8211; and the type of Christianity that makes the world a worse place in the 21st century.<span style="color: #008000;"><strong> I have no need to disparage those who believed these thing in the 2nd century when the earth was flat and suspended in a 3 tiered universe but I&#8217;ll be damned if I am going to hold to this kind of <em>pseudo</em> pre-modern interpretation of the text and the world.</strong></span></div>
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<p>It is not just embarrassing, it is hurtful to lag this far behind and place this kind of condemnation on people who are really hurting and whose community is in ruin.</p>
<p><em><span style="color: #888888;">Our prayers are with the people in these towns &#8211; and I am sorry that Christian minister say those kinds of things at times like this.  Lord have mercy on us &#8211; we need it. </span></em></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not seen Jeremy Lin play. But I am keeping a close eye on him. <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/SI-Lin.jpg"><img class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-7806" title="SI Lin" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/SI-Lin-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a></p>
<p>For those who don’t know, Jeremy Lin is a point-guard for the NY Knicks basketball team. He was a surprising star in college having received no scholarship offers to play after highschool.  He then went undrafted in the Pros and only recently, in his 2nd year, got an opportunity to play because of teammate&#8217;s  injuries. He surprised everybody by leading his team in incredible ways and scoring more points in his first series of starts than any superstar.  He was on the cover of Sports Illustrated for two consecutive weeks and even made the cover of Time.</p>
<p>He has gained notoriety for some amazing play, for being the first Asian-american superstar in the NBA  and now for being a “New kind of Christian”  <a href="http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/21/jeremy-lin-emerges-as-emblem-of-burgeoning-asian-american-christianity/" target="_blank">(according to CNN)</a>. *</p>
<p>Lin, who is of Taiwanese descent,  has also triggered some racial insensitivity with both <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/jeremy-lin-gets-apology-from-ben-and-jerrys-prepares-for-cavaliers-matchup/2012/02/28/gIQAqo2qgR_story.html" target="_blank">ESPN and Ben &amp; Jerry’s committing blunders </a></p>
<p><strong> I am hoping that three things come can potentially come  out of the Jeremy Lin meteoric rise</strong></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>1.</strong></span> <strong>There is no such thing as Asia</strong> &#8211; not in the way that it gets used to describe so many diverse cultures and peoples under a generic geographical term. <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Edward-W.-Said/e/B001H6V71M/ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1?qid=1330520699&amp;sr=8-1" target="_blank">Edward Said</a> has changed the way I think about <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/039474067X/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Orientalism </a>and ‘other-ing’.</p>
<blockquote><p>Therefore as much as the West itself, the Orient is an idea that has a history and tradition of thought, imagery, and vocabulary that have given it reality and presence in and for the West. The two geographical entities thus support and to an extent reflect each other.</p></blockquote>
<p>Though Said was not addressing ‘Asia’ specifically, it is this romantic creation of <em>the other</em> that is so rooted in our mentality and needs to be addressed for the 21st century. All projections point to there being no white majority in the USA by 2050. Race will be one of the biggest issue in my lifetime.</p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong> 2.</strong></span> <strong>There are many ways to be a Christian</strong> (<em>or religious</em>) athlete. Not everyone is treated like <a title="The 99 and Tim Tebow: Canada, Success, Billy Graham and God" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2012/01/06/the-99-and-tim-tebow-canada-success-billy-graham-and-god/" target="_blank">Tim Tebow</a> was. Tebow is both vocal and demonstrative about his faith &#8211; but what the evangelical fans did with it was nearly frenzied. In the CNN article it is clear that Lin goes about his faith a little differently than Tebow. It will be interesting to watch as his popularity grows, how he handles his faith, his fame, and his image.</p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>3.</strong></span>  <strong>There is really something significant</strong> about immigrant communities, generational gaps, and how they practice faith. The CNN article introduced it well, but there is so much more to be examined.</p>
<p>I grew up outside Chicago then my family moved to Saskatchewan Canada where my dad worked at a Seminary with a missionary denomination. He has been in NY for the last 20 years at a sister school and I am now studying in Southern California. It might be my affiliation with seminaries that has thrown off my perception but I was shocked to hear that just 5% of the population is of Asian descent.</p>
<p>I have met so many Vietnamese, Hmong, Japanese, Taiwanese, Chinese, Korean, Filipino, Cambodian, Laotian, Thai, and Malaysian believers who have incredible stories about generation differences, immigration and how those two things affect faith communities and language.</p>
<p>I know that Lin is<em> just</em> a basketball player &#8211; but in the <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Baudrillard.pdf" target="_blank">hyperreal</a> world of modern TV and sports it is conceivable that he will play an important role in awareness that there <em><strong>is</strong></em> an issue to be addressed.</p>
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<p><em>*The phrase really caught my attention because I am a big fan of Brian McLaren’s book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0061853984/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank"> A New Kind of Christianity</a>. </em></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jeff Bethke has created quite a stir with his YouTube video that begins “Jesus came to abolish religion.”  Many video responses have followed (including a Muslim response) and  some bloggers have meticulously  attacked the logic behind his poem point-by-point.  This past week he was in Time magazine. This whole controversy gets to me at two [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/culbethke_0305.jpg"><img class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-7789" title="culbethke_0305" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/culbethke_0305-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a>Jeff Bethke has created quite a stir with his <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IAhDGYlpqY" target="_blank">YouTube video </a>that begins “Jesus came to abolish religion.”  Many video responses have followed (<em>including a Muslim response</em>) and  some bloggers have meticulously  attacked the logic behind his poem <em>point-by-point</em>.  <a href="http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2107509,00.html" target="_blank">This past week he was in Time magazine.</a></p>
<p>This whole controversy gets to me at two deep levels:</p>
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<li><span style="color: #008000;"> <strong>I used to say those things.</strong></span> Just 4 short years ago I was an evangelical church-planter who regularly contrasted Jesus’ message to ‘religion’.</li>
<li><span style="color: #008000;"><strong> I am shocked at how dismissive</strong></span> so many educated and/or mainline folks are being to Bethke’s poem.</li>
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<p>I have heard many people just brush aside his use of ‘religion’ as ignorant, immature, stupid, uneducated, silly, shallow, un-historic, and false. The thing that I want to yell is</p>
<blockquote><p>“YOU FOOLS &#8211; like it or not, that <strong>is</strong> how people use the word religion in our culture.”</p></blockquote>
<p>If you asked <strong>A)</strong> people under 40 and <strong>B)</strong> evangelicals to define <em>religion</em> you would get a picture that is almost identical to Bethke’s .</p>
<p>I now hang out with mainline folks and people who read books on theology. They are  quick to say</p>
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<li>that shows a poor understanding of religion</li>
<li>that is a silly/stupid/shallow definition of religion</li>
<li>that shows little historical perspective on the role that religion has played</li>
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<p>Like it or not &#8211; this<em><strong> is</strong></em> the definition that many young people are using for religion. When they say<em> (increasingly)</em> that they are spiritual-but-not-religious ,<em><strong> this</strong></em> is what they mean.</p>
<p>I am pursuing a PhD in the field of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0800629736/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Practical Theology</a> for the very reason that I want to engage how people live out their faith &#8211; practice it &#8211; in particular communities. The two things that I am willing to concede up front are that</p>
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<li>Many North American Christians and most Evangelicals utilize simple dualism (Physical v. Spiritual, Natural v. Supernatural, Temporal v. Eternal, Secular v. Sacred, Old v. New Testament, Law v. Grace). This <strong><em>is</em></strong> how they think.</li>
<li>Religion is conceptualized as the <em>man-made</em> structures that attempt to facilitate, replicate, and falsely imitate the real thing that God does/wants-to-do in the world.</li>
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<blockquote><p>It is popular to say in these circles <strong>“Religion is man’s attempt to connect with God. Jesus is God’s attempt to connect with man.”</strong> *</p></blockquote>
<p>I know that there are many <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0061853992/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">good attempts to connect</a> with religious tradition. I have heard many addresses regarding the root of the word religion and how the<em> ‘lig</em>’ is the same as ligament or ‘binding’ and how it is an attempt to bind us together &#8211; not to have us bound up in rules! My question is this: <span style="color: #008000;">Are you willing to engage this dualistic and uniformed populist definition of religion that is in place OR would your rather hold to your enlightened and informed historical perspective and allow a conversation to happen without you because you are above it? <span style="color: #000000;">**</span></span></p>
<p>I know that it can be frustrating to circle back and entertain naive perspectives. But if the alternative is to let the conversation happen without a historically informed perspective, then I think we have no choice but to concede the initial conditions of the dialogue in an attempt to express an informed/educated alternative.</p>
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<p><em>*   there are alternatives like “Religion is our attempt to connect with God, Christianity is God’s connecting with us.” </em><br />
<em>**  I have intentionally provided two alternatives to honor the dualistic nature of this mentality. </em></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spent this past week explaining that saying God has given Christianity a masculine feel is like saying &#8216;God has given America a Capitalist feel&#8217;. It was the point of my post <a title="Bananas, Bullies and the Bible – you can’t start in the middle" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2012/02/06/bananas-bullies-and-the-bible-you-cant-start-in-the-middle/">&#8220;Bananas, Bullies and the Bible &#8211; you can&#8217;t start in the middle.&#8221; </a></p>
<p><strong>I never struggle to believe in God. I believe in the deep core of my being. I have faith in my bones. I breath this stuff. I am filled with Holy Spirit and that gives purpose to my day and direction to my life.</strong></p>
<p>I never doubt the reality of the Christian faith &#8230; until I listen to a conservative like John Piper or Marc Driscoll talk. Then, it is all too apparent to me that we are (<em>at least partially</em>) projecting our greatest hopes and dreams onto the screen of the heavens. We are outsourcing our fears and evils onto a cosmic bad guy called the devil. We have created a galactic father figure in the sky (<em>paging Dr. Freud</em>).</p>
<p>It is so clear when Piper talks that it makes me want to retreat into <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0664246184/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">the post-liberal work of George Lindbeck!  </a></p>
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<p>Xenophanes is famed to have said:</p>
<blockquote><p>“If oxen and horses and lions had hands and were able to draw with their hands and do the same things as men, horses would draw the shapes of gods to look like horses and oxen would draw them to look like oxen, and each would make the gods bodies have the same shape as they themselves had.”</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>It gets boiled down to &#8220;If horses had gods &#8211; they would look like horses.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>Most days I can stave that off. I can avoid the haunting suspicion and nagging doubt &#8230; but what Piper does is create a God in his own image &#8211; there is no other way to say it &#8211; it is idolatry.</p>
<p>So what? you may ask. Why even bother with it?  Because, <strong>I believe that there really is a God.</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&amp;field-keywords=cs+lewis&amp;x=0&amp;y=0" target="_blank">C.S. Lewis</a> wrote a poem one time called &#8220;a footnote to all prayers&#8221; (<em>it references <a href="http://search.yahoo.com/r/_ylt=A0oGdU4YXzpPDj8Ai9lXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE1cW50NzVyBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA3NrMQR2dGlkA1NNRTA4MV8yNTQ-/SIG=11odptb7p/EXP=1329254296/**http%3a//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phidias" target="_blank">Pheidias</a> who was  a legendary statue maker in the ancient world) </em></p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Footnote to All Prayers</strong></p>
<p>He whom I bow to only knows to whom I bow<br />
When I attempt the ineffable Name, murmuring Thou,<br />
And dream of Pheidian fancies and embrace in heart<br />
Symbols (I know) which cannot be the thing Thou art.<br />
<strong>Thus always, taken at their word, all prayers blaspheme</strong><br />
Worshipping with frail images a folk-lore dream,<br />
And all men in their praying, self-deceived, address<br />
The coinage of their own unquiet thoughts, unless<br />
Thou in magnetic mercy to Thyself divert<br />
Our arrows, aimed unskilfully, beyond desert;<br />
And all men are idolators, crying unheard<br />
To a deaf idol, if Thou take them at their word.</p>
<p>Take not, O Lord, our literal sense. Lord, in thy great<br />
Unbroken speech our limping metaphor translate.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is why we must acknowledge what it is we are doing when we pray, when we preach, and when we practice. We are doing the best we can with words, symbols, sounds and images. But if those images are solidified and codified past their point of original artistry, mysticism and metaphor &#8211; then it becomes something deadly to the soul and dangerous to the one seeking the real and living God revealed in Christ.</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/41KCCOt6UfL._SX500_.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-7550" title="41KCCOt6UfL._SX500_" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/41KCCOt6UfL._SX500_-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a>Well, I don&#8217;t know about you, but when I go home, I get into politics debates with my family (what can I say? I&#8217;ve always been a radical). Recently, I&#8217;ve been listening to lectures by <a href="http://rdwolff.com/" target="_blank">Richard Wolff</a> on Marxism (yikes!) and he has given me a whole new way of understanding economics and politics. Then I watched a show called <a href="http://www.cbs.com/shows/undercover_boss/" target="_blank">Undercover Boss</a> and I think I threw up in my mouth a little bit. The show demonstrated what&#8217;s wrong with America.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what happened in this week&#8217;s <a href="http://www.cbs.com/shows/undercover_boss/video/" target="_blank">episode</a>: The CEO of Diamond Resorts puts on a (really bad) disguise and pretends to be a new hire at various jobs in the company. He works alongside receptionists, plumbers, etc. At the end of the show, he reveals to the people he worked with that he&#8217;s the CEO and then he gives the workers that he worked alongside a big bonus, like paying off their mortgage or a new truck. Super generous of him right!? I don&#8217;t think so, and here&#8217;s how Karl Marx showed me why:</p>
<p>Ok, let&#8217;s look at the idea of work more generally first. If we look around we can see that in every society there are people that work and people that don&#8217;t work (this isn&#8217;t necessarily bad, some of the people that don&#8217;t work are children, the elderly, etc.). In order to take care of the people that don&#8217;t work, the workers have to produce more than they need for themselves. The word that Marx used for that &#8220;more&#8221; is &#8220;surplus.&#8221; <strong>Surplus is the extra stuff that the workers produce that goes to take care of needs/wants that are not their own. </strong></p>
<p>For example: let&#8217;s say I have a small shoemaking business and at home I have a baby. In order to take care of the baby (who obviously can&#8217;t work), I have to make some shoes to sell to take care of myself and I have to keep making more shoes so that I can take care of my baby. Part of the money that I make from my labor of making shoes goes to me and part of it goes to my baby. Any of the money that comes from my labor that doesn&#8217;t go to me is called surplus (obviously, the surplus that goes to my baby is good!).</p>
<p>In the shoemaker example, I make the shoes and I choose to make extra shoes (in Marxist terms: I choose to produce surplus) so that I can take care of my baby. <strong>Notice, and this is key: As self-employed person, I&#8217;m in charge of my own surplus. </strong></p>
<p>Now, let&#8217;s say that I apply for a job at McDonald&#8217;s. Like everyone else, I want to &#8220;get paid what I&#8217;m worth!&#8221; But here&#8217;s the rub: we all know that McDonald&#8217;s will only pay me $10/hour as long as I am producing more than $10/hour worth of Big Macs to sell. If McDonald&#8217;s doesn&#8217;t make more than $10 off of my labor, then I&#8217;ll get laid off. This is true in all businesses that are organized in what Marx called a capitalist business structure. In other words: <strong>in a capitalist business, the worker does not get all the surplus from their labor. </strong>Capitalism is not a way of organizing government, it&#8217;s a way of organizing labor relationships in a business.</p>
<p>So McDonald&#8217;s makes money off of my labor, i.e., they get to keep part of my surplus and I have no say in what happens to it. Marx called this &#8220;exploitation.&#8221; Now, stick with me because it sounds inflammatory, but all it means is that in capitalism, the worker does not have control of their surplus. The caplitalist business keeps the worker&#8217;s surplus. It doesn&#8217;t matter if the worker is aware of this, or if you have a really nice boss with good intentions that pays you the &#8220;market rate.&#8221; It simply means that the worker doesn&#8217;t have any say over the surplus of their labor. In US corporations, it is the board of directors who decide what happens to the surplus (keep in mind the workers have no say in electing the board!). Thus, in capitalism, there is a built-in tension between the workers and the people who get the surplus. They must continually argue about how much or how little of the worker&#8217;s surplus that the owners keep. For example, every time you ask for a raise, you&#8217;re in essence asking to keep more of the surplus from your labor.</p>
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<p>Most people recognize the difference between these two types of businesses, even if we don&#8217;t have language for it: We praise entrepreneurs. <strong>We all want to &#8220;be our own boss&#8221; (translation: we want to have a say in the surplus from our labor). </strong></p>
<p>Back to Undercover Boss: the money that the CEO gave to those workers came out of the surplus that the workers themselves <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/karl-marx-hip.jpg"><img class=" wp-image-7551 alignright" title="karl-marx-hip" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/karl-marx-hip.jpg" alt="" width="314" height="220" /></a>produced. The whole show hides the fact that the only reason that the CEO can afford to pay off the mortgage or buy a truck for a couple workers is because he makes a profit off of all the workers. It doesn&#8217;t mean that the CEO is a bad person or has bad intentions, the business is set up that way. Every receptionist at Diamond Resorts brings in more money to the company than they are paid (or else they get laid off). Of that vast pool of surplus, the boss in the TV show paid back a little bit to the few featured workers out of the surplus of all the other workers. The owner/capitalist never gives the workers more money than the workers make for him because if he did, the company would go out of business!</p>
<p>As a Christian, I think that we should organize businesses in a way that&#8217;s collaborative and doesn&#8217;t have the built-in tension between workers and owners inherent in capitalism. There are other ways of organizing labor relationships. I think it only makes sense that workers should have a say over what happens to the surplus of their labor. For example, if businesses were set up so that workers got to vote about what happened to the profits from their company, then businesses would be more efficient, we could have less government intervention, workers would have a stake in their companies, people would have a reason to work hard. A co-op is an example of this. My wife used to work for a company in which all employees are part-owners of the company. Everyone gets an even share of the profits at year-end. Thus, everyone has an incentive and a real stake in the health and success of the company.</p>
<p>In capitalist businesses, relationships in the business are built on tension. As followers of Jesus, shouldn&#8217;t we strive for relationships built on collaboration and love? Maybe good ole Karl Marx can help us be better Christians after all.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/photo1.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-7553" title="photo" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/photo1-e1326995986779-225x300.jpg" alt="" width="225" height="300" /></a>Guest Post by Deacon Stephen Keating, </strong>a recent graduate of Fuller Theological Seminary who is busy currently applying to PhD programs.  He is also wise enough to know that &#8216;Theology Nerds are Sexy.&#8217;  #TrueStory</p>
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<p>If you&#8217;re interested in learning more, head on over to Dr. Wolff&#8217;s website: <a href="http://rdwolff.com/" target="_blank">http://rdwolff.com/</a> <wbr>or check out his book on the recent US financial crisis.<br />
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		<description><![CDATA[In recent weeks both Tim Tebow and Marc Driscoll have been hot button topics of conversation in my circles. The whole thing peaked this week when Tebow was knocked out of the playoffs and Driscol was interviewed on a popular British radio show. In the Driscoll interview (he was going after the host because his wife [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In recent weeks both <a title="My Love (hate) Relationship with Tim Tebow" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2012/01/13/my-love-hate-relationship-with-tim-tebows-god/" target="_blank">Tim Tebow</a> and<a href="http://cognitivediscopants.wordpress.com/2012/01/15/driscoll-brierley-on-women-in-leadership/" target="_blank"> Marc Driscoll </a>have been hot button topics of conversation in my circles. The whole thing peaked this week when Tebow was knocked out of the playoffs and Driscol was interviewed on a popular British radio show.</p>
<p>In <a href="http://cognitivediscopants.wordpress.com/2012/01/15/driscoll-brierley-on-women-in-leadership/" target="_blank">t</a><a href="http://cognitivediscopants.wordpress.com/2012/01/15/driscoll-brierley-on-women-in-leadership/" target="_blank">he Driscoll interview </a>(he was going after the host because his wife is a pastor) he said something that is hugely troubling about its implications for the value of certain types of people. Driscoll was asking about how many young single men have come to Christ in the past year. Not how many people, but how many of them were men. Still not satisfied, he asked about what kind of men they were &#8211; were they strong men?<a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/driscoll_hands350.jpg"><img class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-7541" title="driscoll_hands350" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/driscoll_hands350-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a></p>
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<p><strong>Do you see the sequence?</strong> (<em>some might call it a pecking order</em>)</p>
<p>He asked not about numbers of people who came to Christ, not about Church health or the British context (ie. implications of having a Church of England)</p>
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<li>How many were men &#8230; specifically young single men.</li>
<li>Not men in general, but a specific type of man (strong)</li>
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<p>Some may want to simply dismiss this as an eccentric fascination of an isolated mentality. <strong><span style="color: #008000;">I beg to differ.</span></strong>  I see this as a ongoing, if below the surface, mentality that is pervasive in the North American Protestant-Evangelical-Charismatic camp (<em>also known as ‘my people’</em>).</p>
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<p>I have written recently that <a title="The 99 and Tim Tebow: Canada, Success, Billy Graham and God" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2012/01/06/the-99-and-tim-tebow-canada-success-billy-graham-and-god/" target="_blank">we may worship success more than any God</a> &#8211; and I don’t want to make sweeping generalizations about the fallout of the 20th centuries rejection of the Social Gospel or the inherent downside of anti-intellectualism that is still widely pervasive &#8211; <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>what I am saying is that Driscoll’s views and Tebow’s fans are not an anomaly.</strong></span> They are the logical end expression of an underlying belief about who God is and how God works.</p>
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<p>The Driscol-Tebow controversies are merely the public manifestation of an underlying theology surfacing in examples that bring to the public’s attention to what is always bubbling just below the surface &#8211; or behind the closed doors of the sanctuary.</p>
<p>The Gospel as it is configured in some quarters is surprising to those who are outside this stream. Does Jesus love everyone? Technically, yes. Is there a type of person that Jesus loves more &#8230; or a part of that person (soul, gender, etc.) that Jesus is more interested in?</p>
<p><strong>If this concept is completely foreign to you &#8211; I may need to come at this a different way:</strong></p>
<p>I had a chance to talk to a faithful saint who suffers from a chronic degenerative disease. She found a piece that I wrote about <a href="http://bosanders.wordpress.com/2012/01/05/cut-it-out-with-the-whole-curse-business/" target="_blank">why we need to move away from old understandings about curses</a>. She had undergone more than a decade of people ‘discerning in prayer’ that someone had placed a curse on her when she was younger and then attempting through intercession and deliverance to break the enemy’s power over her.</p>
<p>She was intrigued by my insistence that God was not picking and choosing who to intervene for and which situations to interfere in. She had heard <a title="Prayer &amp; Process with John Cobb" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2012/01/11/prayer-process-with-john-cobb/" target="_blank">last week’s interview with John Cobb</a> where he said that we believe that God is doing in every situation all that God is able to do that in situation.</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff6600;">This is a radical assertion and a sharp departure from the common belief about how God can and does work in the world.</span></p>
<p>I told her about an <a title="An Emerging, Progressive, and Relational Vision of Faith: Homebrewed Christianity 60" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2009/08/17/an-emerging-progressive-and-relational-vision-of-faith-homebrewed-christianity-60/" target="_blank">old interview that Tripp did with Bruce Epperly </a>where Tripp paraphrased him by saying “God does not hold out or run out”.   Think about the implications of those two statements:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>In every situation God is doing everything that God is able to do</strong></p>
<p><strong>God does not hold out or run out</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>I love this view of God. Some people get really upset because God is not as powerful as the Zeus-Caesar (theos) character they have been told lives up in the heavens watching us all and intervening/interfering according to ‘His’ will. But we are <em>actually</em> saying that God is powerful &#8211; its just that God’s power is a different <em>kind</em> of power from the unilateral and coercive power that has classically been ascribed to the Divine Being.</p>
<p>In <a title="TNT: Prayer and Process reaction" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2012/01/15/tnt-prayer-and-process-reaction/" target="_blank">this past week’s TNT</a> I said that I thought something really positive came out of the pushback we got from our cross-efforts with <a title="Rachel Responses" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2012/01/08/rachel-responses/" target="_blank">Rachel Held Evans</a> and <a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/thepangeablog/2012/01/09/your-granny-is-a-process-theologian-guest-post-from-homebrewed-christianity-tripp-and-bo/" target="_blank">Kurt Willems</a>. <strong>It became clear that Process-Relational thought really is saying something quite different than classical theologies based on Imperial assumptions and Greek metaphysics.</strong></p>
<p>This is not a simple tweak of the existing system (like Open theology). This is not a program that you just download and install into your already in place operating system. It is not a patch that employ to get rid of the bugs and kinks in the classical program. Relational thought is a different operating system (to use the fun Mac v. Microsoft Windows analogy).</p>
<p>I am excited about the upcoming<a href="http://www.processtheology.org/" target="_blank"> Theological Conversation</a> Jan 31-Feb 2  between the Emergent Village and Process-Relational thought. I am not under the impression that P-R is for everyone or that many folks will ‘convert’. But I am hopeful that we can engage, in a significant way, the ongoing and persistent glitches that  (while they may rarely come to <em>full blown</em> Driscoll-Tebow levels) are perpetually just below the surface.</p>
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		<title>Why are Young Americans feeling so positive about Socialism?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tripp Fuller</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Recently the Pew Poll Research Center performed a &#8216;Political Rhetoric Test&#8217; to discover that young Americans have an increasingly positive response to &#8216;socialism&#8217; and a declining one to &#8216;capitalism.&#8217;  I am interested in why y&#8217;all may think this is the case.  It&#8217;s important to note that a political rhetoric test has nothing to do with [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/newsweek-socialists_now.jpg"><img class="alignleft  wp-image-7507" title="newsweek-socialists_now" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/newsweek-socialists_now.jpg" alt="" width="270" height="323" /></a> Recently the <a href="http://www.people-press.org/2011/12/28/little-change-in-publics-response-to-capitalism-socialism/1/">Pew Poll Research Cente</a>r performed a &#8216;Political Rhetoric Test&#8217; to discover that young Americans have an increasingly positive response to &#8216;socialism&#8217; and a declining one to &#8216;capitalism.&#8217;  I am interested in why y&#8217;all may think this is the case.  It&#8217;s important to note that a political rhetoric test has nothing to do with the<a href="https://greenmountainscribes.wordpress.com/2012/01/03/the-pew-survey-are-americans-really-viewing-socialism-more-favorably/"> respondent actually having any clue </a>what &#8216;socialism,&#8217; capitalism,&#8217; &#8216;liberal,&#8217; &#8216;conservative&#8217; or &#8216;progressive&#8217; actually mean.  It is simply a way of gauging how one responds to the word when used so I wouldn&#8217;t make near as big of a deal of this as <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alexander-eichler">Alexander Eichler </a>at the Huffington Post who titled his post<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/29/young-people-socialism_n_1175218.html"> &#8220;Young People More Likely To Favor Socialism Than Capitalism,</a>&#8221; but the stats are the stats.</p>
<blockquote><p>“The poll, published Wednesday, found that while Americans overall tend to oppose socialism by a strong margin — 60 percent say they have a negative view of it, versus just 31 percent who say they have a positive view — socialism has more fans than opponents among the 18-29 crowd. Forty-nine percent of people in that age bracket say they have a positive view of socialism; only 43 percent say they have a negative view.”</p></blockquote>
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<p>So &#8216;socialism&#8217; being popular among young Americans doesn&#8217;t mean they have any clue what it means.  Surely some do but I think it may be the fact that for <strong>most young Americans we know our lives &#8211; regardless of our hard work &#8211; will not as a whole be as good or better than our parents.</strong>  So if &#8216;socialism&#8217; is the word for a different way of organizing our economic relationships as a country why not say &#8216;positive&#8217; when asked because &#8216;capitalism&#8217; has broken the promise of the American dream.</p>
<p><img class="alignleft" src="http://www.moneytrendsresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/obama-socialist1.jpg" alt="" width="202" height="302" /> Perhaps <strong>another reason &#8216;socialism&#8217; is growing in popularity is thanks to our growing outlandish political Right</strong> in the country.  I thought of this when a high school student told me he was a socialist and I said &#8220;What? Do you have any idea what that means or would mean for your family?&#8221;  He said, &#8220;Yeah, you want college to be affordable, healthcare available to all, and to go back to Clinton era taxes.  I mean that&#8217;s why everyone is upset at Obama and he&#8217;s a socialist.&#8221;  What if our hyper-polarizing rhetoric in America and in particular the socialist name calling on the Right is actually making an audience for the very idea they abhor?</p>
<p>Two theological asides.</p>
<p>1) If you look at just the poor and non-white stats our country is significantly critical of capitalism.  Should those on the underside of our system get a hearing from the church about the effects of our system on their lives and family?</p>
<p>2) &#8216;<a href="http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/28/liberal-unpopular-but-newer-progressive-label-gets-high-marks-in-poll/">Progressive</a>&#8216; is way more popular than &#8216;Liberal.&#8217;</p>
<blockquote><p>Public reactions to the word <em>progressive</em> are far more favorable than to the word <em>liberal</em>; two-thirds have a positive reaction to the former compared with just half for the latter. There is very little difference among Democrats – who view both terms favorably.  The largest difference is among Republicans most (55%) of whom have a positive reaction to the word <em>progressive</em>, and a negative (70%) reaction to the word <em>liberal</em>. (<a href="http://www.people-press.org/2011/12/28/little-change-in-publics-response-to-capitalism-socialism/1/">link)</a></p></blockquote>
<p>Does that mean liberal Christians should use progressive?  And why didn&#8217;t they ask about <a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/tonyjones/2011/08/08/im-an-incarnational-christian/">&#8216;Incarnational Christians</a>?&#8217;</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love Tim Tebow &#8211; I just hate what his fan do with his success.   It is irresponsible and <em>un-Biblical.</em></p>
<p>I have said before that<a title="The 99 and Tim Tebow: Canada, Success, Billy Graham and God" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2012/01/06/the-99-and-tim-tebow-canada-success-billy-graham-and-god/" target="_blank"> I respect Tim</a> and that <a title="Talking to Tebow’s God" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/12/14/talking-to-tebows-god/" target="_blank">he does not think God helps </a>the Broncos win football games.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong>Why I love Tim:</strong></span> He works incredibly hard, has an amazing energy, lives out his faith, and serves orphans. This guy is incredible!</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong>Why I hate his success: </strong></span>If you are in the NFL, you are gifted. Every player is extraordinarily talented &#8230; and I think that those talents come for God. I would prefer if we said that every player was blessed by God &#8211;  some acknowledge it and some are quite vocal about.</p>
<p>The assertion that God blesses one player more than another is where I run into the problem:<strong> that God is picking and choosing this person over that one &#8211; and interfering in this moment but not that one is a view of God that is irresponsible and indefensible. </strong></p>
<blockquote><p> I will go as far as to say that it is somewhere between superstition and missing the entire point of Jesus’ life and message. This certainly is not a Christian view of God.</p></blockquote>
<p>Last week Tripp had a<a title="Rachel Responses" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2012/01/08/rachel-responses/" target="_blank"> blog posted by Rachel Held Evans</a> where he said that God was not omnipotent and that the future is not determined. In the TNT podcast that comes out today, Tripp and I talk about the line of reasoning that some people took in not only their objection to Tripp’s note but came to the defense of an omnipotent conception of God . Some people just came out and said <em><span style="color: #808000;">“the book of Job shows that God is omnipotent”</span></em>. <strong><span style="color: #008000;">This is a terrifying sentence to hear from a Christian.</span></strong></p>
<p>There are three things about Job that need to be clear:</p>
<ul>
<li>It is not a newspaper report. It is a dramatic presentation (broken into distinct acts).</li>
<li>That God rewards those who do right and love God and punishes those who disobey and turn away from God &#8230; is exactly what the book of Job is written against. That is against the narrative of Job’s life story at the beginning and against what God says at the end.</li>
<li>Christians believe that Jesus lived a perfect life &#8211; and was brutally murdered. I see that as <strong>the Death of Job’s God</strong>. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>That old concept of God died on the Cross.</strong></span></li>
</ul>
<p>So the BIble doesn’t teach this view of God and the history of the world does not reflect this view. God does not reward those who are faithful and put down those who are evil. <strong>The evil prosper and the righteous suffer as much as everyone under that evil. </strong></p>
<p>We have to stop with this superstitious system of rewards and benefits that treats God like God as some sort of <em>cosmic Gum-ball Machine</em>.  It is extremely hurtful and insulting.  The part that baffles me is how prominent the view is among evangelicals &#8230; who make bold claims about being based on the Bible and &#8216;<em>being Biblical&#8217;</em>.</p>
<p>This view of the interfering God who doles out blessing to ‘His’ favorites is a relic of the past that we must outgrow.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong><a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/tebow1.jpg"><br />
</a>This antiquated, superstitious view needs to die on the Cross so that the God revealed in Christ can be resurrected for our time. </strong></p></blockquote>
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		<description><![CDATA[The news is wild these days! Its almost as if there is a cultural shift underway! Let me just highlight 4 news stories from the past week: 1) The Pope: Gay marriage threatens humanity’s future 2) Pastor Joel Osteen to Oprah: Homosexuality Is Sin — But Gay People Will Get Into Heaven 3) Rick Santorum: A Straight Dad [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Pope-Benedict-XVI_6.jpg"><img class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-7474" title="VATICAN POPE" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Pope-Benedict-XVI_6-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a>The news is wild these days! Its almost as if there is a <em>cultural shift</em> underway!<br />
Let me just highlight 4 news stories from the past week:</p>
<p>1) The <a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/pope-gay-marriage-threatens-humanity-future-article-1.1003549" target="_blank">Pope: Gay marriage threatens humanity’s future</a></p>
<p>2) <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/pastor-joel-osteen-oprah-homosexuality-sin-gay-people-185334950.html" target="_blank">Pastor Joel Osteen to Oprah: Homosexuality Is Sin — But Gay People Will Get Into Heaven</a></p>
<p>3) <a href="http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/rick-santorum-a-straight-dad-in-prison-is-better-than-two-gay-dads-who-arent/" target="_blank">Rick Santorum: A Straight Dad In Prison Is Better Than Two Gay Dads Who Aren’t</a></p>
<p>4) Pastor <a href="http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/01/06/pastors-detailed-book-on-sex-divides-reviewers-sparks-controversy/?hpt=hp_c2" target="_blank">Mark Driscoll&#8217;s book on Marriage hits</a> the shelves</p>
<p>It is interesting that all four of these stories have come to my attention in the past week. What most people will focus on is whether there is a Bible verse to back up what they are saying or not.</p>
<p>What needs to be stated before that is two-fold:</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>All four are white males.</strong> Somebody may ask &#8220;are you implying that their gender or race somehow diminishes their right to speak with authority?&#8221; and I would answer &#8220;No &#8211; I just think that it is worth pointing it out in case later we wanted to examine how people come to power and in what ways authority is constructed, bestowed, or recognized.&#8221;</li>
<li><strong>When you have</strong> the leader of all the world&#8217;s catholics, a guy who is renowned for not speaking up about anything or coming down on anyone, a presidential candidate, and one of the most influential evangelical pastors in America saying the same thing&#8230; one of a couple of things has to cross your mind.</li>
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<blockquote><p>Either<br />
<strong>a)</strong> they are all sticking up for the truth or<br />
<strong>b)</strong> they are all sticking up for an antiquated perspective of the past</p></blockquote>
<p>The reason that this issue has grabbed my attention is that many are calling it &#8216;The Last Taboo&#8221;. In the past 2 centuries, the issues of race (civil rights) and gender (women&#8217;s lib) have advanced to the point the if anyone held an opinion from a century ago about either issue &#8211; the people around them would say &#8220;<em>what is wrong with you?&#8221;</em> or &#8220;<em>wake up man, its the 21st century.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>I asked <a title="Bo’s Big concern about the future of the church" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/06/23/bos-big-concern-about-the-future-of-the-church/" target="_blank">Tony Jones, Lauren Winner and Phyllis Tickle about this issues</a> last year.  Only<a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0801013135/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank"> Phyllis was willing</a> to tackle it.</p>
<p>No matter which side of this thing you are on, it is worth noting that the &#8216;last taboo&#8217; is predicted to be the worst and most vicious. <span style="color: #008000;">The problem with the <em>last</em> of anything is that when it is over &#8230; it is really over.</span>  We tackled the race issue, we overcame the gender barrier, and now the sexuality issue is front and center.  We can&#8217;t go back. This is the last taboo. Once we have dealt with this, there are no more big ones to fall. <em>This is kinda it.* </em></p>
<p>I just think that it is worth noting <strong>A)</strong> who is framing the conversation and <strong>B)</strong> who is charge of the information and how the process is to be handled. <span style="color: #008000;"> <em>There might be more going on here than simply the rightness or the wrongness of any given issue or the interpretation of 6 bible verses. </em></span></p>
<p><strong>This will most likely be decided in our lifetime. Denominations will split over it. The future of the faith will be challenged because of it. Like race and gender before it, history will evaluate how we participate in it.  </strong></p>
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<p><em>* somebody might say &#8216;economics&#8217; or some form of disparity, but that is not really in the same category as it is not inherently value laden .</em></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several weeks ago<a title="Talking to Tebow’s God" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/12/14/talking-to-tebows-god/" target="_blank"> I had fun looking at the difference between Tim Tebow</a>’s* faith and what his zealous (mostly evangelical &amp; charismatic) fans <em><strong>do</strong></em> with it. I took some flack from asserting that Jesus was not intervening to help him win close games.</p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>Since then he has lost 3 games.</strong></span> The choi<a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/tim-tebow.jpg"><img class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-7430" title="tim-tebow" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/tim-tebow-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a>r has gone shockingly quiet. It appears -<em> and this may come as a surprise</em> - that Americans worship success more than any ‘god’. In fact, one might wonder if success <em><strong>is</strong></em> America’s god.</p>
<p>It always piques my imagination when politicians say ‘May God bless America” at the end of their speeches &#8230; I try to pay attention to how they say it and what they might be expecting that <em>blessing</em> to look like.</p>
<p><strong> There are two elements to this that really attract my attention:</strong></p>
<p>Part of the reason this sticks out to me so sharply is that I have dual-citizenship with Canada. I went to High school and started Bible College there. When I see Tebow bowed on the sideline praying in the 4th quarter, I smile as I think of the completely different religious and political atmosphere in Canada. Almost every Canadian I know &#8211; even the believers &#8211; I can hear saying “Easy big guy, don’t make too much of a display”.</p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong> American zeal is a phenomenon.</strong></span> I have a theory that it is actually embedded in the DNA of this country courtesy of those original Calvinists who brought with them the concept of “signs of divine benevolence”. This little mechanism says</p>
<blockquote><p>‘while we can’t know who is elect unto salvation or damnation &#8211; certainly we say that a good tree will bear good fruit. So, while no can know for sure if they are “in” certainly God graces the chosen with “signs of divine benevolence&#8221;.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is how we get that famous “Protestant Work Ethic” in order to make it as easy as possible for God to ‘bless you’. It almost boils down to ‘If its good  = its God. If its bad = its you&#8230; unless your good = then its the devil.”</p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>The second element</strong></span> is this idea of the 99 and the 1. I heard over and over in the Tebow hysteria “If even one person comes to Christ because of what God is doing for Tebow and Tebow’s witness, then it is worth it.”  I hear this “if even one person” thing so often that I can see it coming a mile away.</p>
<p>Admittedly, Jesus told a story about the 99 sheep and the 1 lost sheep. But I just have to say that it was a metaphor- a poetic picture of how much God loves each person. It is NOT a permission to be irresponsible with our resources and strategies to either neglect or disrespect the 99 in order to attract the one.</p>
<p>I became of aware of this during the 80s and 90s when statistics about Billy Graham’s actual effectiveness regarding Stadium campaigns and alter calls. Studies found over and over again that of all of those thousands who came forward, the number who were actually un-churched was quite low &#8230; and of those, the number who were associated with a Christian church in the years that followed was atrocious. But if any question the effectiveness of this style of Evangelism and the millions of dollars that were spent on these campaigns, the battle cry would go up “If only ONE &#8230; then it is all worth it”.</p>
<p>I’ve said before that I like Tim Tebow, that I am amazed at both his life and his work ethic. I have also been clear that he does not think that God intervenes in football games. <strong>But Tebow and his zealous cheerleaders have actually exposed an interesting trend that I can’t quite put my finger on&#8230; America worships success, we hold it to be a ‘Sign of Divine Benevolence’ and we are fine with collateral damage to the 99 if, in the end, “the one is found&#8230; then it was all worth it.”</strong></p>
<p>Thoughts?</p>
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<p>* Tim Tebow is the Quarterback for the NFL football team the Denver Broncos</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here are the top 11 blogs of Homebrewed Christianity in 2011  : 1. Theology Nerd Book Survey  2. That’s “Too Gay” – Brian Ammons’ Banned Chapter from Baptimergent 3. Your First Steps into Biblical Universalism… 4. 31 Reasons I Left Evangelicalism and Became a Progressive But Not a Liberal by Michael Camp 5. God Takes Sides….or When [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Here are the top 11 blogs of Homebrewed Christianity in 2011 <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/HBC.jpeg"><img class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-7227" title="HBC" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/HBC-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a> :</strong></p>
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1. <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/05/19/theology-nerd-book-survey/" target="_blank">Theology Nerd Book Survey </a></p>
<p>2. <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/03/02/thats-too-gay-brian-ammons-banned-chapter-from-baptimergent/" target="_blank">That’s “Too Gay” – Brian Ammons’</a> Banned Chapter from Baptimergent</p>
<p>3. <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/03/21/your-first-steps-into-biblical-universalism/" target="_blank">Your First Steps into Biblical Universalism</a>…</p>
<p>4. <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/12/04/31-reasons-i-left-evangelicalism-and-became-a-progressive-but-not-a-liberal/" target="_blank">31 Reasons I Left Evangelicalism and Became a Progressive But Not a Liberal</a> by Michael Camp</p>
<p>5. <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/07/14/god-takes-sides-or-when-karl-barth-was-right/" target="_blank">God Takes Sides….or When Karl Barth Was Right</a></p>
<p>6. <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2009/07/06/defining-the-secular-charles-taylor-pt-3/" target="_blank">Defining the Secular: Charles Taylor (pt. 3)</a> by Deacon Hall</p>
<p>7. <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/03/16/rob-bell-wins/" target="_blank">Rob Bell Wins </a></p>
<p>8. <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2010/10/16/the-classic-footprints-in-the-sand-poem-revisited/" target="_blank">The classic ‘Footprints in the Sand’ poem revisited</a></p>
<p>9. <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/02/28/are-you-a-bellian-or-piperian/" target="_blank">Are you a Bellian or Piperian?</a></p>
<p>10.<a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/07/14/a-big-difference-between-christianity-and-islam/" target="_blank"> a big difference between Christianity and Islam </a></p>
<p>11. <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/08/14/goosing-emergents-into-the-mainline/" target="_blank">Goosing Emergents into the Mainline</a></p>
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<p>Thank you all for your amazing participation and feedback &#8211; that was a wonderful year of conversation and theological brewing!</p>
<p><em>Let us know if you had a favorite that didn&#8217;t make the list.</em></p>
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<p>From Chad, Tripp, and Bo &#8211; thanks for a great year, Brew On!  and don&#8217;t forget to share the brew.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 19:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Say what you want about him (and many have said plenty) but the passing of Christopher Hitchens is a sad thing. He was perhaps the most mean-spirited of the self-titled 4 Horsemen of the New Atheists &#8211; the others being Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, and Daniel Dennett - but he was effective. I understand people&#8217;s [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say what you want about him (and many have said plenty) but the passing of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_tc_2_0?rh=i%3Astripbooks%2Ck%3AChristopher+Hitchens&amp;keywords=Christopher+Hitchens&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1324062745&amp;sr=1-2-ent&amp;field-contributor_id=B000APSKR0" target="_blank">Christopher Hitchens </a>is a sad thing. He was perhaps the most mean-spirited of the <em>self-titled</em> 4 Horsemen of the New Atheists &#8211; the others being <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_tc_2_0?rh=i%3Astripbooks%2Ck%3ARichard+Dawkins&amp;keywords=Richard+Dawkins&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1324062684&amp;sr=1-2-ent&amp;field-contributor_id=B000AQ3RBI" target="_blank">Richard Dawkins</a>, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_tc_2_0?rh=i%3Astripbooks%2Ck%3ASam+Harris&amp;keywords=Sam+Harris&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1324062645&amp;sr=8-2-ent&amp;field-contributor_id=B001H6UFQ0" target="_blank">Sam Harris</a>, and <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_tc_2_0?rh=i%3Astripbooks%2Ck%3ARichard+Dawkins&amp;keywords=Richard+Dawkins&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1324062684&amp;sr=1-2-ent&amp;field-contributor_id=B000AQ3RBI#/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&amp;field-keywords=daniel+dennett&amp;rh=n%3A283155%2Ck%3Adaniel+dennett" target="_blank">Daniel Dennett </a>- but he was effective.</p>
<p>I understand people&#8217;s reaction to his abrasive, condescending, and bombastic style. His attacks on religion were vicious behind his stunning wit and comprehensive recall of material.</p>
<p>Those who were big critics of his rightly pointed out that he was <em>in some sense</em> just a reverse fundamentalist. He had conceded that the God of Jerry Falwell, the suicide bombers, and Israeli occupation was the God up for debate and he simply didn&#8217;t believe in that God.</p>
<p><strong>Here is the thing: I don&#8217;t believe in <em>that</em> god either! <span style="color: #808000;">Hitchens helped me by rabidly critiquing that false god of Empire and cutting open the giant bloated carcass of Christendom with razor-sharp clarity. </span></strong></p>
<p>This morning <a href="https://twitter.com/#!/julieclawson" target="_blank">Julie Clawson</a> tweeted</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;To everyone posting &#8220;Hitchens no longer exists &#8211; God&#8221;, 1- I doubt that&#8217;s actually your theology. 2- It&#8217;s not witty or cute, just jerky&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>and she is right.  How could any believer think that he no longer exists? That is just a stupid thing to say! Of course Hitchens still exists &#8211; he just doesn&#8217;t have a body anymore. <em>What are we physicalists now?  </em>Its that kind of unthinking that he was pointing out.</p>
<p>The real question is where does he exist now?  The fundamentalist he hated so much would say that he went straight to hell. That of course is ridiculous and completely not Biblical. In that framework there is a holding area (like Abraham&#8217;s Bosom) and then the Great White Throne Judgement.</p>
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<p>The <em>&#8216;all we are is dust in the wind</em>&#8216; crowd thinks that this is the end of the story and the he lives on in legacy and memories.</p>
<p>The <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/006204964X/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank"><strong>Love Wins</strong> </a>crowd thinks that he is with God and they are having a little talk about<em> ultimate reality </em>and some other fun stuff. I like the imagery of reconciling souls.</p>
<p>That will all take care of itself but one thing I am sure of is that Hitchens helped me think through some crazy crap I had inherited and some messed up ways of thinking that had been passed down to me. He unintentionally challenged me to <em>streamline</em> my faith by stripping away gobs of baggage that has gotten attached to the simple Galilean vision.</p>
<p>For that, I am thankful for Hitchens. <strong><span style="color: #808000;">I obvious don&#8217;t believe what he believed. But his critique of the established order with its crumbling foundation and rotting rafters was something that propelled me to re-think my approach to some pretty central issues.</span></strong></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have held off as long as I could but I think we better talk about this now before it goes any further. Tim Tebow is a phenomenon is the media these days. His Denver Broncos football team is on a 6 game winning streak and he is 7-1 as their starting Quaterback. Despite his [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have held off as long as I could but I think we better talk about this now before it goes any further.</p>
<p>Tim Tebow is a phenomenon is the media these days. His Denver Broncos football team is on a 6 game winning streak and he is 7-1 as their starting Quaterback. Despite his apparent limitations (skills) he has orchestrated a series of amazing comebacks during the winning streak.  That is a big deal! Any fan would love to have their team on this kind of a roller coaster &#8211; come from behind &#8211; frenzy.</p>
<p><strong>That, however, is not what makes this news.</strong></p>
<p>This past week the Broncos <a href="http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8250a2fa/article/before-beating-bears-tebow-told-woodyard-god-has-spoken?module=HP11_headline_stack" target="_blank">beat my beloved Chicago Bears</a> in overtime after a <em>miraculous</em> set of circumstances turned the game around in the 4th quarter. The Tebow&#8217;s teammate picks up the story there: <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/tebow1.jpg"><img class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-7302" title="tebow1" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/tebow1-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Tebow came to me and said, &#8216;Don&#8217;t worry about a thing,&#8217; because God has spoken to him,&#8221; <a id="yui_3_3_0_1_13238882628143147" href="http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_19527521?obref=obnetwork#ixzz1gWG87pi5" target="new">Woodyard told The Denver Post</a> this week.</p>
<p>It was Woodyard who then stripped Bears running back Marion Barber to hand the football &#8212; and the game &#8212; back to Denver.</p>
<p>For Tebow, just another day at the office.</p>
<p>&#8220;I believe in a big God and special things can happen,&#8221; he said, after he erased a 10-0 deficit against Chicago in the final 2:08 of regulation. &#8220;It&#8217;s not necessarily prophesying, but sometimes you can feel God has a big plan.&#8221;</p>
<p>Woodyard, for one, has no lingering doubts: &#8220;For all the Tebow haters: You better start believing.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I want to be clear this before I say anything else: <strong>I am not hating Tebow. In fact, I like him.</strong> I like how he uses his summers to serve needy people in other countries. I like that he works so hard. I like that he is unorthodox in his throwing motion and scrabbling technique. I like that he is so sincere and transparent about his faith.</p>
<p>Some people get upset that he is always <em>cramming his faith in their face. </em>That is not what concerns me. It is his <em><strong>brand of faith</strong></em> that concerns me.</p>
<p>I have been very forthright that <strong><span style="color: #ff6600;">A)</span></strong> this is the camp of evangelical-charismatic zeal that I was raised in and emerged from <span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong>B)</strong></span> that the epistemology behind &#8216;hearing from God&#8217; &#8230; and the interventionist assumptions behind a &#8216;super&#8217; natural worldview are antiquated relics of a pre-modern understanding and are untenable in the 21st century. <span style="color: #808080;">If you want a more nuanced explanation, listen to &#8220;Pentecost for Progressives&#8221; <a title="Seeing Through Heaven’s Eyes:  Leif Hetland with Mike Morrell" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/11/11/seeing-through-heavens-eyes-leif-hetland-with-mike-morrell/" target="_blank">[here] </a>- starting in  minute 55 OR read the summary<a title="Pentecostals &amp; Progressives" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/11/11/pentecostals-progressives/" target="_blank"> [here]. </a> </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #808080;"><span style="color: #000000;">This <em><strong>is</strong></em> the season of Advent and we <em><strong>do</strong></em> tell the story of God speaking to Mary. That is not what I am contesting. </span></span></p>
<p><em>I try to never-ever play this next card&#8230; but the cards that I have been dealt has forced my hand:</em></p>
<blockquote><p>Are you under the impression that God cares who wins a football game and intervenes to bring it about but doesn&#8217;t care enough about the thousands of children who are starving to do something about it?</p>
<p>Are you telling me that god knows but doesn&#8217;t care, or that God cares but doesn&#8217;t know, or that god could do something but won&#8217;t or that god would do something but can&#8217;t?</p></blockquote>
<p>Look, I am not an either-or guy. I hate binaries, dualisms, and <em>us vs. them</em> mentalities. But when someone says that this is how God is&#8230; sometimes it forces you to say that <strong>I believe this God to be a false creation of human imagination &#8211; nothing more than an athropomophic projection.  </strong></p>
<p>______</p>
<p>Three things for clarification:</p>
<ol>
<li>I could be wrong. He keeps winning and people say &#8216;If Joel Osteen wasn&#8217;t doing something right, he wouldn&#8217;t have 37,000 people who go to his church.&#8221;  In America, success = correct.</li>
<li>The Calvinists could be right. God chooses whom &#8216;He&#8217; wants to. I don&#8217;t want to be one of those people who say &#8220;If God is not the way I believe they-she-he  is, the I am not going to worship them-her-him.&#8221; I will worship God no matter what way God turns out to be&#8230; but I happen to really like the Jesus of the 4 canonical gospels&#8230; just sayin&#8217;.</li>
<li>Tim Tebow himself has hinted in the past that he does not believe in an interventionist god. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7QlCVnhXKU" target="_blank">Bob Costas alluded to this to</a> in his amazing speech.  It&#8217;s not Tebow that concern me &#8211; its Tebow&#8217;s fans.</li>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tripp and Bo explore the season of Advent through song, story, and proleptic possibility.</p>
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<p>They wander through theological frameworks, eschatological expectations and process potential for a greater engagement.</p>
<p>Translation: Tripp sings and then they talk about the meaning of the song &#8230; along with the week&#8217;s news through a theological lens.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Bo Sanders</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dr. Marc Ellis is renowned thinker and a Jewish Liberation Theologian. In this interview with Bo &#38; Tripp  he speaks candidly about community, empire, Biblical scholarship, Israel, the Apostle Paul, Evangelics, and legendary people that he knew (like Dorothy Day). Marc Ellis is widely regarded as a prophetic voice and an original thinker. He is [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Ellis-pic-.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-7259" title="Ellis pic" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Ellis-pic--300x300.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="300" /></a>Dr. Marc Ellis is renowned thinker and a Jewish Liberation Theologian. In this interview with <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/about/" target="_blank">Bo &amp; Tripp</a>  he speaks candidly about community, empire, Biblical scholarship, Israel, the Apostle Paul, Evangelics, and legendary people that he knew (like Dorothy Day).</p>
<p>Marc Ellis is widely regarded as a prophetic voice and an original thinker. He is a Professor of History at Baylor University and <a href="http://www.baylor.edu/jewish_studies/index.php?id=33813" target="_blank">the Director of the Center for Jewish Studies</a>. He has authored many books including:</p>
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<li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0800697936/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Encountering the Jewish Future</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/1595584250/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Judiasm does not equal Israel: the Rebirth of the Jewish Prophetic  </a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/1932792007/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Toward a Jewish Liberation Theology</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000RXZRI0/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Practicing Exile </a></li>
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<h1><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; font-weight: normal;">He is also under a cloud of controversy right now! Please go to this website: <a href="https://www.change.org/petitions/ken-starr-president-of-baylor-university-stop-persecution-against-prof-marc-ellis" target="_blank"> https://www.change.org/petitions/ken-starr-president-of-baylor-university-stop-persecution-against-prof-marc-ellis</a> and sign the petition to protect his job and his right to speak freely! </span></h1>
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		<itunes:subtitle>Dr. Marc Ellis is renowned thinker and a Jewish Liberation Theologian. In this interview with Bo &#38; Tripp  he speaks candidly about community, empire, Biblical scholarship, Israel, the Apostle Paul, Evangelics, and legendary people that he knew ([...]</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Dr. Marc Ellis is renowned thinker and a Jewish Liberation Theologian. In this interview with Bo &#38; Tripp  he speaks candidly about community, empire, Biblical scholarship, Israel, the Apostle Paul, Evangelics, and legendary people that he knew (like Dorothy Day).
Marc Ellis is widely regarded as a prophetic voice and an original thinker. He is a Professor of History at Baylor University and the Director of the Center for Jewish Studies. He has authored many books including:

Encountering the Jewish Future
Judiasm does not equal Israel: the Rebirth of the Jewish Prophetic  
Toward a Jewish Liberation Theology
Practicing Exile 

He is also under a cloud of controversy right now! Please go to this website:  https://www.change.org/petitions/ken-starr-president-of-baylor-university-stop-persecution-against-prof-marc-ellis and sign the petition to protect his job and his right to speak freely! 
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		<title>The Cross, Resurrection, Blood, and Church of Jesus: TNT Crossed Out</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 03:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bo Sanders</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In this hour long conversation Bo and Tripp take up the question &#8220;Is too much emphasis placed on the cross?&#8221;  Bo thinks that it is both out of proportion and ultimately unhelpful to place so much importance in this one symbol. Tripp think that it can be redeemed from those who have misused and misappropriated [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this hour long conversation Bo and Tripp take up the question &#8220;Is too much emphasis placed on the cross?&#8221;  Bo thinks that it is both out of proportion and ultimately unhelpful to place so much importance in this one symbol. Tripp think that it can be redeemed from those who have misused and misappropriated it. The debate <a title="Crossed Out – have we overdone the crucifixion?" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/11/15/crossed-out-have-we-overdone-the-crucifixion/" target="_blank">started with [this post]</a></p>
<p>In this episode we reference (among others) books by</p>
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<li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0664233473/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Andrew Sung-Park</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&amp;field-keywords=douglas+ottati&amp;x=0&amp;y=0" target="_blank">Douglas Ottati</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&amp;field-keywords=elizabeth+johnson&amp;x=0&amp;y=0" target="_blank">Elizabeth Johnson</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&amp;field-keywords=brian+mclaren&amp;x=0&amp;y=0" target="_blank">Brian McLaren</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/1451609000/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Peter Rollins</a></li>
<li>and the famous <a title="John Cobb on the Incarnation and its Theological Predicaments: Homebrewed Christianity ep. 38" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2008/12/23/john-cobb-on-the-incarnation-and-its-theological-predicaments-homebrewed-christianity-ep-38/" target="_blank">Incarnation podcast with John Cobb </a></li>
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<div>Also covered are Claremont Lincoln&#8217;s involvement in the inter-religious endeavor and their new logo &#8211; as well as re-writing some hymns and songs to better reflect what we really believe.</div>
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		<itunes:subtitle>In this hour long conversation Bo and Tripp take up the question &#8220;Is too much emphasis placed on the cross?&#8221;  Bo thinks that it is both out of proportion and ultimately unhelpful to place so much importance in this one symbol. Tripp thin[...]</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>In this hour long conversation Bo and Tripp take up the question &#8220;Is too much emphasis placed on the cross?&#8221;  Bo thinks that it is both out of proportion and ultimately unhelpful to place so much importance in this one symbol. Tripp think that it can be redeemed from those who have misused and misappropriated it. The debate started with [this post]
In this episode we reference (among others) books by

Andrew Sung-Park
Douglas Ottati
Elizabeth Johnson
Brian McLaren
Peter Rollins
and the famous Incarnation podcast with John Cobb 

Also covered are Claremont Lincoln&#8217;s involvement in the inter-religious endeavor and their new logo &#8211; as well as re-writing some hymns and songs to better reflect what we really believe.
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		<title>Heaven &#8211; we have a problem! (with sexuality)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2011 18:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bo Sanders</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This was a week of controversy in the Blogosphere – at least in my neck of the woods. The topic of gender, femininity, and sexuality were the touch points.  I am going to highlight 3 controversial blogs from this week … but first I want to acknowledge that it mirrored (albeit in a much smaller [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was a week of controversy in the Blogosphere – at least in my neck of the woods.</p>
<p>The topic of gender, femininity, and sexuality were the touch points.  I am going to highlight 3 controversial blogs from this week … but first I want to acknowledge that it mirrored (<em>albeit in a much smaller way</em>) something happening in the larger culture that we are embedded in.</p>
<p>This was also a week that saw the Penn State football sexual abuse scandal rock the nation, the Herman Cain sexual harassment allegations, and several other national news story related to discrimination, abuse, and harassment.</p>
<p>These three christian conversations that follow are not happening in a vacuum – perhaps that is why they illicit such a heated response and so much attention. It impacts all of us.</p>
<p><strong>Post 1:</strong>  from Stuff that Christians Like – a post called ‘Girls with a Past’ was a little test (<em>written by a man</em>) that women could take to see if one qualified as intriguing or not.  It was satire (<em>which not everyone gets or likes</em>) and it pointed out a real problem. Now, some people were offended and took it out on the author. I just want to say that the situation is infuriating but we can’t take it out on the person who illustrates the problem, Jon was articulating a severe inconsistency between what we say and what we do in the ‘church’.</p>
<p>Here is his post: <a href="http://www.jonacuff.com/stuffchristianslike/2011/11/stuff-christians-guys-like-girls-that-have-a-past/" target="_blank">http://www.jonacuff.com/stuffchristianslike/2011/11/stuff-christians-guys-like-girls-that-have-a-past/ </a>let me know what you think.  <em>It got over 500 responses.</em></p>
<p><strong>Post 2:</strong> <a title="Discovering Biblical Womanhood in Monkey Town with Rachel Held Evans: Homebrewed Christianity 113" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/07/31/discovering-biblical-womanhood-in-monkey-town-with-rachel-held-evans-homebrewed-christianity-113/" target="_blank">Rachel Held Evans</a> (one of my favorite bloggers) put up a post called “13 things that make me a bad feminist”. It is part of a series that she does from time to time – she has also admitted to being a bad ‘evangelical’ and ‘progressive’.  This post went over like a lead-balloon <em>.</em> This led to a guest-post the following day.</p>
<p>Here is the post: <a href="http://rachelheldevans.com/13-things-lousy-feminist" target="_blank">http://rachelheldevans.com/13-things-lousy-feminist</a> <em>. It got 149 responses</em>.</p>
<p><strong>Post 3: </strong>my co-host Tripp Fuller came out of the closet as <em>not</em> being ‘open and affirming’ on a video from Two Friars and a Fool. His contention was that affirming letters – whether L, B, G, Q, T, I or any other <em>dash</em> or<em> asterisk</em> – is an inherently limited response. It has two great dangers: <strong></strong><strong></strong></p>
<ol>
<li><strong></strong> it makes us feel like what have really done something, when all we have really done is <strong></strong></li>
<li><strong></strong>conceded the initial ground rules to the entrenched system.</li>
</ol>
<p>The problem is that the system is capitalism and that means that ‘acceptance’ is becoming both something to market and a new group to be marketed <em>to</em>.</p>
<p>Tripp’s point of contention is that the gospel of Jesus calls the whole system into account. We can’t concede the rules of the game and then think that we are going to bring about the best-of-all-possibilities. The structure itself must be contested. The system can not be catered to – it must be undermined and subverted. People are too valuable to God to be classified by their genitalia or the genitalia of who they are attracted to.<em> This was not received too well for the most part. </em></p>
<p>Here is the post:<a href="http://twofriarsandafool.com/2011/11/identity-politics-are-not-the-gospel/" target="_blank"> http://twofriarsandafool.com/2011/11/identity-politics-are-not-the-gospel/</a><em> it got 84 responses. </em></p>
<p>___<img style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-width: 0px;" title="4040059343_ca446c32bb_s" src="http://bosanders.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/4040059343_ca446c32bb_s.jpg?w=75&amp;h=75" alt="" width="75" height="75" /></p>
<p>My take:</p>
<ul>
<li>The 3,000 year old gender roles in the oldest parts of the Bible merely reflect that culture’s understanding and are not the last word on ‘natural’ design.</li>
<li>The 2,000 year old gender roles in the New Testament were written in context where women were basically property. They need to be revisited and revised.</li>
<li>The idea of ‘original sin’ is a constructed idea and not biblical. What it is addressing, however, is real and I think we all acknowledge that. It needs to be addressed in better ways without pre-modern understandings imposed upon it.  <em></em></li>
<li>Until we address these three subject the conversation will always circle around and around in endless and unhelpful loops of misunderstanding: <strong>1)</strong> social conditioning<strong> 2)</strong> constructed reality <strong>3)</strong> biological implications of being mammals.</li>
</ul>
<p>I would be very excited to enter into this conversation if we did not live in such a contentious and acidic ‘<a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0345407512/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Argument Culture</a>‘.  <em>Thoughts? </em></p>
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		<title>Slave Free Earth: Cathy and Will Henderson on human trafficking</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2011 02:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bo Sanders</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cathy and Will Henderson are the founders of Slave Free Earth. The problem of human trafficking has become a global epidemic. It has suprassed arms (guns) and is second only to drugs in illegal sales. Visit to SlaveFreeEarth.com to connect, learn, volunteer and support this movement. The Interview starts in minute 6 after Elgin Fuller [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cathy and Will Henderson are the founders of Slave Free Earth. The problem of human trafficking has become a global epidemic. It has suprassed arms (guns) and is second only to drugs in illegal sales.</p>
<p>Visit to <a href="http://slavefreeearth.com/" target="_blank">SlaveFreeEarth.com</a> to connect, learn, volunteer and support this movement.<a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/SFE.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-7018" title="SFE" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/SFE-228x300.jpg" alt="" width="228" height="300" /></a></p>
<p>The Interview starts in minute 6 after Elgin Fuller explains the dangers of his favorite movie &#8211; Cars 2.</p>
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		<itunes:subtitle>Cathy and Will Henderson are the founders of Slave Free Earth. The problem of human trafficking has become a global epidemic. It has suprassed arms (guns) and is second only to drugs in illegal sales.
Visit to SlaveFreeEarth.com to connect, learn, v[...]</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Cathy and Will Henderson are the founders of Slave Free Earth. The problem of human trafficking has become a global epidemic. It has suprassed arms (guns) and is second only to drugs in illegal sales.
Visit to SlaveFreeEarth.com to connect, learn, volunteer and support this movement.
The Interview starts in minute 6 after Elgin Fuller explains the dangers of his favorite movie &#8211; Cars 2.
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		<title>Stuck in the Middle with you</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 16:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bo Sanders</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The old Stealers Wheels song says &#8220;clowns to the left of me &#8211; jokers to the right&#8221; , when I do watch the news I find myself humming &#8220;wingnuts to the left of me &#8211; nut jobs to the right&#8221; here I am stuck in the middle with you. Over a decade ago I read [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The old <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DohRa9lsx0Q&amp;feature=related" target="_blank">Stealers Wheels</a> song says &#8220;clowns to the left of me &#8211; jokers to the right&#8221; , when I <em>do</em> watch the news I find myself humming &#8220;wingnuts to the left of me &#8211; nut jobs to the right&#8221; here I am stuck in the middle with you.</p>
<p>Over a decade ago I read an amazing book called <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0345407512/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">The Argument Culture</a> by Deborah Tannen that forever changed the way I was able to see and participate in the toxic, adversarial, binary system that had evolved. It haunts me as I watch the political environment and media circus unfold in front of me.</p>
<p>The other day I stumbled across another good reminder from the past. Alasdair MacIntyre pointed out that</p>
<blockquote><p>all contemporary debates are really between conservative liberals, liberal liberals, and radical liberals.</p></blockquote>
<p>I found this in a <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0830824545/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Dictionary of Theology</a>, where the author added &#8220;<span style="color: #008000;"><strong>Thus there is little room for the criticism of the system itself.</strong></span>&#8221; In<a title="Hey Hey Ho Ho – the Status Quo has got to go!" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/10/05/hey-hey-ho-ho-the-status-quo-has-got-to-go/" target="_blank"> a post the other day</a> I said that &#8220;<em>in the end the structure is nearly unchanged. The system is never in danger. The machine doesn&#8217;t even slow down. The Powers are never in jeopardy. It eats new ideas with barely a burp – let alone beginning to buckle.&#8221; </em></p>
<p>Stated simply: there is a real danger is assuming our inherited  structures. When we presume the <em>giveness </em>of our constructed systems we are inflicted with a blindness that is more than debilitating to dialogue &#8211; it is corrosive to the very intent and virtue of our stated ideals. When the system is assumed:</p>
<ol>
<li>we begin to major on the minors.</li>
<li>we create blind-spots that leave us vulnerable to critique</li>
</ol>
<p>The result then is that we either take on a defensive posture, turn aggressive, or become paralyzed and withdrawal all together. It is the social equivalent of  the &#8220;Fight-Flight-or Fright&#8221; reflex .</p>
<p>When we don&#8217;t examine our inherited assumption or unwilling to engage our constructed social conditioned-ness, we open the door to something quite hazardous to the Gospel message. Beyond compromise and conflict as either/or options is a real cancerous effect on community.</p>
<p>Our political views and denominational persuasions are not the<em> all or nothing </em>&#8216;far right vs. far left&#8217; spectrum with a huge gap in the middle that has been presented to us. <strong>They are kinds within the same system. They are not different in kind &#8211; they are only different in degree.</strong> And when we realize this, we are afforded the possibility to step back the arena and gain some perspective on the structure as a whole. That is is the only way that system itself will ever be critiqued &#8211; the only ways that the <em>Powers the Be</em> will ever get challenged.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 20:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bo Sanders</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[in light of the current protests.   A few weeks ago Joerg Rieger cautioned about a type of Christianity that was a cheerleader for the system, that reinforced the status quo, and participated in society in way that strengthened Empire. I have said before I come from a background where this type of thinking is not [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: right;"><em>in light of the current protests. </em></p>
<p> A few weeks ago <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Joerg-Rieger/e/B001HN375Y/ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1?qid=1317846402&amp;sr=8-1-fkmr0" target="_blank">Joerg Rieger</a> cautioned about a type of Christianity that was a cheerleader for the system, that reinforced the status quo, and participated in society in way that strengthened Empire.</p>
<p>I have said before I come from a background where this type of thinking is not just disorienting but alienating. The focus is on individuals &#8211; with little mention of anything systemic. The goal is the salvation of souls for the afterlife &#8211; with no address of collective issues.</p>
<p>It was reading <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&amp;field-keywords=Walter+WInk&amp;x=0&amp;y=0" target="_blank">Walter Wink  “the Powers the Be”</a> that radically impacted the way I could see this. I have since encountered other writings and teachers who have opened the subject even further.</p>
<p>Now, it is odd to look at the central figure of our faith and ask<em> how did Jesus ever get portrayed as a guy who basically told people to be nice and obey the rules</em>? <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&amp;field-keywords=cornel+west&amp;x=0&amp;y=0" target="_blank">Cornell West</a> would talk about him be sanitized, deodorized, and neutralized. Someone else might call this being a chaplain to the empire.</p>
<p>Tripp and I have a theme that shows up in our personal conversations on a fairly regular basis. It revolves around the idea that <strong>variable X or Y may be changed or tweaked, but the outcome of the equation is never in doubt.</strong> A specific issue may be protested, but the machine itself in never in danger. Certain areas can be challenged or  even overhauled, but the system itself is never in jeopardy.</p>
<p>This is not limited to Empire. It goes beyond hegemony. It is not limited to Capitalism.</p>
<p>The powers that be, or the system, or the machine (<em>as you prefer</em>) is an omnibus. It can absorb &#8211; incorporate &#8211; and co-op any variation, deviation, or even challenge &#8230; and<strong> in the end the structure is nearly unchanged. The system is never in danger. The machine doesn’t even slow down. The Powers are never in jeopardy.</strong> It eats new ideas with barely a burp &#8211; let alone beginning to buckle.</p>
<p><em> We could talk about an anarchist musical band that signs a record contract, or a retail store that sells Buddhist trinkets from ‘the far east’, or a seminar on Native American spirituality that meets in a university classroom&#8230; but I don’t want to get sidelined.  </em></p>
<p>Benjamin Barber in his book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0345383044/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Jihad vs. McWorld </a>talks about the market in such a way that sketched a picture (for me) of a machine that needs to be fueled by new authentic-indigenous expressions, otherwise it runs dry and burns out on it’s own the boredom of its generic repetitions and knock-offs.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>“McWorld cannot then do without Jihad: it needs cultural parochialism to feed its endless appetites. Yet neither can Jihad do without that world: for where would culture be without a commercial producers who market it and the information and communication systems that make it known?”  </em></p></blockquote>
<p>We have talked with <a title="Economics, Theology, and Discipleship: Joerg Rieger on Homebrewed Christianity 116" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/09/06/economics-theology-and-discipleship-joerg-rieger-on-homebrewed-christianity-116/" target="_blank">Joerge Rieger</a> (ep. 116) about a theological look at global economics. We have talked with <a title="9/11 Special: Graham E. Fuller and a world without Islam" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/09/09/911-special-graham-e-fuller-and-a-world-without-islam/" target="_blank">Graham E. Fuller</a> (ep. 117) about a historical perspective on East-West relations.</p>
<p>I am curious about the theological address of some revolutionary response to the machine. We talk about <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&amp;field-keywords=Jesus+and+empire&amp;x=0&amp;y=0" target="_blank">Jesus and Empire</a>. We talk about the <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/1842272616/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Constantinian compromise</a>. We have the <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_tc_2_0?rh=i%3Astripbooks%2Ck%3AStanley+Hauerwas&amp;keywords=Stanley+Hauerwas&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1317847330&amp;sr=8-2-ent&amp;field-contributor_id=B000APV13K" target="_blank">Hauerwasian</a> response that gets interpreted as <em>withdrawal &amp; testimony</em>. Cornell West wants us to be <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0664223435/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Prophetic</a>.</p>
<p>What is the theological answer to the question that the machine is asking? Certainly, like Tripp is fond of saying, <strong>we have to be about more than a slightly kinder gentler empire.</strong> Jesus challenged the status quo of his day &#8211; economic, militaristic, racial, gender, and religious. How does a follower of Jesus address a system of oppression, domination, invasion and economic disparity? <em> Thoughts?</em></p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 22:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bo Sanders</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This Theology Nerd Throwdown is sponsored by Claremont School of Theology. Tripp and Bo take on three topics in the news from a progressive Christian perspective with an eye toward the theological. 1. Did 9/11 really change us? You can read the initial blog here. 2. The crows at the Republican Presidential debates are telling [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Theology Nerd Throwdown is sponsored by <a href="http://www.cst.edu/" target="_blank">Claremont School of Theology</a>.</p>
<p>Tripp and Bo take on three topics in the news from a progressive Christian perspective with an eye toward the theological.</p>
<p>1. Did 9/11 really change us? <a title="Did 9/11 really change us?" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/09/12/did-911-really-change-us/" target="_blank">You can read the initial blog here.<br />
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<p>2. The crows at the Republican Presidential debates are telling us something. We think that <em>something</em> is bad.</p>
<p>3. <a href="http://claremontlincoln.org/about/a-new-university/a-model-for-solutions/" target="_blank">Claremont Lincoln University</a> had it&#8217;s convocation ceremony this week. That seemed significant in light of story 1 and 2 above.</p>
<p>In this hour-long show these two theology nerds reference several books &#8211; including but not limited to :</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0385487525/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">The Powers the Be</a> by Walter Wink</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0061920622/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank"> Simply Christian</a> by N.T. Wright</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/066424842X/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Theology and the Kingdom </a>by Wolfhart Pannenberg</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0800664590/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">No Rising Tide </a>by Joerge Rieger</p>
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		<itunes:subtitle>This Theology Nerd Throwdown is sponsored by Claremont School of Theology.
Tripp and Bo take on three topics in the news from a progressive Christian perspective with an eye toward the theological.
1. Did 9/11 really change us? You can read the init[...]</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>This Theology Nerd Throwdown is sponsored by Claremont School of Theology.
Tripp and Bo take on three topics in the news from a progressive Christian perspective with an eye toward the theological.
1. Did 9/11 really change us? You can read the initial blog here.

2. The crows at the Republican Presidential debates are telling us something. We think that something is bad.
3. Claremont Lincoln University had it&#8217;s convocation ceremony this week. That seemed significant in light of story 1 and 2 above.
In this hour-long show these two theology nerds reference several books &#8211; including but not limited to :
The Powers the Be by Walter Wink
 Simply Christian by N.T. Wright
Theology and the Kingdom by Wolfhart Pannenberg
No Rising Tide by Joerge Rieger
The views expressed are not necessarily those of Claremont School of Theology or Claremont Lincoln University. 
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 03:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bo Sanders</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As we all know,this past weekend was a big one. I watched with much interest as the commemorations and memorials passed. My senses were especially heightened today due to five things: We put our the interview with Graham E. Fuller this past Friday. I heard an interview and read an article with a New York [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As we all know,this past weekend was a big one. I watched with much interest as the commemorations and memorials passed. My senses were especially heightened today due to five things:</p>
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<li>We put our the<a title="9/11 Special: Graham E. Fuller and a world without Islam" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/09/09/911-special-graham-e-fuller-and-a-world-without-islam/"> interview with Graham E. Fuller </a>this past Friday.</li>
<li>I heard an interview and read an article with a New York author who was asking a tough a question. “Did 9/11 really change us all that much?”</li>
<li>Tony Jones wrote <a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/tonyjones/2011/09/12/why-i-avoided-all-911-coverage-yesterday/#more-3731" target="_blank">a blog </a>that pointed out the danger of ‘memorials’ for history and our collective memory .</li>
<li>The <a href="http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/09/gop-debate-audience-cheers-perrys-execution-record/" target="_blank">Republican Presidential Debates</a>.</li>
<li>Getting ready to start a new weekly radio show for <a href="http://www.cst.edu/" target="_blank">Claremont School of Theology</a> where this will be one of our first  questions.</li>
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<p>I lived in New York state when the attacks happened. I drove home from the conference I was at to be with my congregation. That weekend I preached to the fullest auditorium I have ever seen and I preached the most prophetic message I have ever attempted. The following week I lost some of my congregants and that next weekend preached to a half-full auditorium.</p>
<p>As a student in religion at a <a href="http://claremontlincoln.org/about/a-new-university/a-model-for-solutions/" target="_blank">University</a> that is partnering with an<a href="http://icsconline.org/" target="_blank"> Islamic</a> and a <a href="http://ajrca.org/" target="_blank">Jewish center</a> for study, the events of ten years ago are continuously on my mind. As a friend and brother to people who take seriously the critiques of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0618918248/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Richard Dawkins</a>, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003VWC45I/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Christopher Hitchens</a>, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0393327655/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Sam Harris </a>and <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0143038338/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Daniel Dennett</a> &#8230; I am confronted daily by the effects of bad religion on our world.</p>
<p><strong> SO  I wanted to throw out some questions and get some feedback. </strong>Here are my questions:</p>
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<li>As a country, are we less combative than we were before 9/11? <em>Because we see the effects of violence?</em></li>
<li>Are our politics less contentious? <em>Has it brought more unity?</em></li>
<li>Are we less Imperialistic? <em>Making fewer enemies and giving less fuel to the terrorists?</em></li>
<li>Are we less consumeristic? <em>Now that we see what really matters?</em></li>
<li>Do we have a deeper appreciation for people of other faiths? <em>we have read their scriptures and visited their gatherings because we no longer want to alienated from the &#8216;other&#8217;? </em></li>
<li>Do we know more about other faith traditions?</li>
<li>For those who believe that this is a ‘Christian Nation’, are we more sincere about following the way of Jesus? <em>Those who proclaim the name of Christ have revisited and thus radically altered their previous posture? </em></li>
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<p>It seems to me that the answer to every one of these questions &#8211; however broad they may be &#8211; is overwhelming ‘no’. We have not changed. We are not a different country. We have not gone a different way. I am left to wonder if 9/11 changed us at all. One could make the case the we have continued of the same trajectory of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0345407512/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Argument Culture</a> politics, militaristic foreign policy, consumeristic capitalism, overspending both personally and in government, contentious religion <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/9-111.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-6825" title="9-11" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/9-111-300x276.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="276" /></a>and combative media coverage. I am not sure that much has changed at all since September 10, 2001.</p>
<p><strong>My question in preparation for the radio conversation is twofold:</strong></p>
<p>Am I wrong? Is there something I am not seeing?</p>
<p>Am I asking the right questions? If not, what are better questions?</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the 10th anniversary of the September 11th attacks, we talk to Graham E. Fuller about the world we live in and geo-political roots of our contemporary conflicts.</p>
<p>We talk about Israel, Turkey, Russia, Bosnia,  Malaysia, Indonesia and America.  We also go back in history &#8211; past the Crusades &#8211; to the roots of the East/West split and the relevance of those tensions for us today.</p>
<p>Graham E. Fuller is author of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0316041203/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">A World Without Islam</a>  . He is a former vice chairman of the National Intelligence Council at the CIA, a former senior political scientist at RAND, and a current adjunct professor of history at Simon Fraser University. He is the author of numerous books about the Middle East, including The Future of Political Islam. He has lived and worked in the Muslim world for nearly two decades.</p>
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We talk about Israel, Turkey, Russia, Bosnia,  Malaysia, Indonesia and America.  We also go back in history &#8211; past the Crusades &#8211; to the roots of the East/West split and the relevance of those tensions for us today.
Graham E. Fuller is author of A World Without Islam  . He is a former vice chairman of the National Intelligence Council at the CIA, a former senior political scientist at RAND, and a current adjunct professor of history at Simon Fraser University. He is the author of numerous books about the Middle East, including The Future of Political Islam. He has lived and worked in the Muslim world for nearly two decades.
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		<title>Economics, Theology, and Discipleship: Joerg Rieger on Homebrewed Christianity 116</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 13:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We may be in the midst of an &#8216;economic downturn&#8217; but at Homebrewed Christianity we are having a &#8216;theological boom.&#8217;  If there was one single living person I would want to talk to about theology and economics Joerg Rieger is that person.  Guess what? He is here! Rieger is the Wendland-Cook Endowed Professor of Constructive [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/rieger-interfaith_0809_1_eh.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-6789" title="rieger interfaith_0809_1_eh" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/rieger-interfaith_0809_1_eh-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a> We may be in the midst of an &#8216;economic downturn&#8217; but at Homebrewed Christianity we are having a &#8216;theological boom.&#8217;  If there was one single living person I would want to talk to about theology and economics Joerg Rieger is that person.  Guess what? He is here!</p>
<p>Rieger is the <a href="http://www.smu.edu/Perkins/FacultyAcademics/DirectoryList/Rieger.aspx">Wendland-Cook Endowed Professor of Constructive Theology </a>at <a href="http://www.smu.edu/perkins.aspx">Perkins School of Theology</a> (SMU), p<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Joerg-Rieger/e/B001HN375Y/ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1?qid=1315316822&amp;sr=8-1">rolific author</a>, regular speaker, motorcycle enthusiast, and just plain awesome dude.  In the podcast we discuss the relationship of politics, power, the economy, and our present crisis from a theological and biblical perspective.  We move from the abstract to the practical and along the way I hope it&#8217;s clear we both had a good bit of fun.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.soularize.net/hbc/"> Join Us @Soularize Oct 18-20!</a></p>
<p>Rieger is author of many books including:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0800664590/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">No Rising Tide: Theology, Economics, and the Future  (Kindle $9.99)</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0800620380/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Christ &amp; Empire: From Paul to Postcolonial Times</a></p>
<p>and <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/1426700652/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Globalization and Theology</a> ($8.80 Kindle, $9.80 paperback)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.joergrieger.com/">Check out his amazing website for great resources!</a></p>
<p>Thanks to Ellie Haugsby at the Chautauquan Daily for the sweet pic of Rieger in action.</p>
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		<itunes:subtitle> We may be in the midst of an &#8216;economic downturn&#8217; but at Homebrewed Christianity we are having a &#8216;theological boom.&#8217;  If there was one single living person I would want to talk to about theology and economics Joerg Rieger is [...]</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary> We may be in the midst of an &#8216;economic downturn&#8217; but at Homebrewed Christianity we are having a &#8216;theological boom.&#8217;  If there was one single living person I would want to talk to about theology and economics Joerg Rieger is that person.  Guess what? He is here!
Rieger is the Wendland-Cook Endowed Professor of Constructive Theology at Perkins School of Theology (SMU), prolific author, regular speaker, motorcycle enthusiast, and just plain awesome dude.  In the podcast we discuss the relationship of politics, power, the economy, and our present crisis from a theological and biblical perspective.  We move from the abstract to the practical and along the way I hope it&#8217;s clear we both had a good bit of fun.
 Join Us @Soularize Oct 18-20!
Rieger is author of many books including:
No Rising Tide: Theology, Economics, and the Future  (Kindle $9.99)
Christ &#38; Empire: From Paul to Postcolonial Times
and Globalization and Theology ($8.80 Kindle, $9.80 paperback)
Check out his amazing website for great resources!
Thanks to Ellie Haugsby at the Chautauquan Daily for the sweet pic of Rieger in action.
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 06:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tripp Fuller</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ This is a guest post from my Jeremy Fackenthal. He is a fellow Claremont Phd, Baptist, and late night talking partner.  Be Ye Provoked!  The last couple of weeks have been really outstanding for the system we call universal capitalism.  The US has a debt problem and lost its AAA credit rating, marking its decline [...]]]></description>
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<p><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: small;"><em> This is a guest post from my J<a href="http://jfackenthal.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">eremy Fackenthal</a>. He is a fellow Claremont Phd, Baptist, and late night talking partner</em>.  <em>Be Ye Provoked!</em><br />
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<p><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: small;"><a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/marx_jesus.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-6735" title="marx_jesus" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/marx_jesus.jpg" alt="" width="185" height="113" /></a> The last couple of weeks have been really outstanding for the system we call universal capitalism.  The US has a debt problem and lost its AAA credit rating, marking its decline in the world financial scheme, Italy has a debt problem, Greece has a very naughty debt problem, global markets are down, and people aren&#8217;t buying stuff they really don&#8217;t need.  This is not good news in a world where growth is the major indicator of a good economy, happiness, and evidently a pleasing sex-life.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: small;">I recently read </span><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2002/feb/02/academicexperts.highereducation" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: small;">Terry Eagleton&#8217;s</span></a><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: small;"> latest book </span><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0300169434/?tag=homebrechrist-20"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: small;"><em>Why Marx Was Right</em></span></a><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: small;">, in which he takes the ten most popular critiques of Marxism and debunks them in order to show that Marx&#8217;s socialist theory remains a valid philosophical and economic option today, and one that might even be preferable to capitalism in the long run.  It seems that writing about socialism or espousing socialist ideals can still be risky business, even in a country where some deeply misguided people try to convince us that our government is already practically run by socialists.  In the past, ideas such as these even got some people killed&#8211;sometimes in the style of Roman crucifixion.  So I applaud Eagleton for unabashedly taking a stand for Marxism and for providing some very intriguing (and often quite witty) reflections on the history of Marxist thought and its relevance today.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: small;">There&#8217;s been a lot of talk recently about socialism versus free-market capitalism, and religion has not be absent from the conversation.  Sunday&#8217;s Washington Post faith section featured this </span><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/guest-voices/post/from-jesus-socialism-to-capitalistic-christianity/2011/08/12/gIQAziaQBJ_blog.html" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: small;">excellent op-ed</span></a><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: small;"> by describing the road from Christian socialism to Ayn Rand-style capitalism.  Given all this attention, I thought it might be interesting to blog through Eagleton&#8217;s book, chapter by chapter, noting some places where Marxism and the Gospel are perhaps not so far apart.  Eagleton&#8217;s book lends itself well to this task because it takes criticisms of Marxism and aims to prove the critics wrong.  In doing so, it provides a fairly easy-to-understand intro to Marx and socialist theory.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: small;">Eagleton&#8217;s first chapter combats the critique that Marxist thought is finished and out of date because we now live in a world of apparent social mobility <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/marx-eagleton1-e1313562057663.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-6736" title="marx-eagleton1" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/marx-eagleton1-e1313562057663.jpg" alt="" width="255" height="374" /></a> in which class is no longer an issue.  Oh, if only that were the case.  Eagleton&#8217;s main point in this chapter is that Marxism is a critique of capitalism, and so as long as capitalism is around to be critiqued, then Marxism still has a job to do.  Rather than Marxism outgrowing its use, many Marxists around the early 1980s simply gave in to overwhelming capitalist fervor.  And rather than classes disappearing due to social (upward) mobility, the rich became richer and the poor remained poor.  Eagleton gives some startling statistics, such as the World Bank&#8217;s figure that in 2001 more than 2.5 billion people in the world lived on less than $2 a day, and he points to capitalism&#8217;s role in the looming issue that will define the 21st century&#8211;climate change.  </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: small;">Neither Eagleton nor I are naive enough to say that capitalism hasn&#8217;t brought about its fair share of fabulous advances.  I have an iPhone and can hardly imagine life without it.  I&#8217;m guessing Terry Eagleton does not, but I&#8217;d venture that he probably uses a computer and the internet, both products of capitalist advances.  Nevertheless, the fact that the gap between the rich and the poor, or even the rich and the middle class, continues to grow by leaps and bounds points to a drastic flaw in the notion that capitalism should be good for us all.  </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: small;">Obviously Jesus wasn&#8217;t a Marxist, since Marx and the ideas he developed did not come about until 1800 years after Jesus&#8217; death.  But it would be equally (if not more) anachronistic to say that Jesus liked free-market capitalism.  Jesus may not have read passages from Marx&#8217;s <em>Captital </em> in the synagogue, but he certainly wasn&#8217;t reading from Ayn Rand, Milton Friedman or Adam Smith either.  Instead, he read from the Hebrew prophets, and hence from folks who didn&#8217;t mince words but told it like it was.  In the end, justice prevails, and this especially includes economic justice.  Like Gregory Paul (see link to Washington Post op-ed above), I see the overwhelming trajectory of the Biblical narrative pointing toward economies in which justice prevails and not toward the type of economies in which a relative few amass great wealth at the expense of all the others.  Since this second type of economy is what we continue to live with, I agree with Eagleton that<a href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;cd=6&amp;ved=0CFcQFjAF&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fchronicle.com%2Farticle%2FIn-Praise-of-Marx%2F127027%2F&amp;ei=WVpLTtwYieOIAuy9qIkB&amp;usg=AFQjCNHuGW8l0sBHok3x5A9vFZ-7o-fHWw&amp;sig2=VqOgbRHIvLIL8QJ705_mQw" target="_blank"> Marxism is not and cannot be dead</a> and finished.  Likewise, social gospel style Biblical commentary cannot be dead and finished either.  Perhaps Jesus wasn&#8217;t a Marxist, but evidence points toward the idea that he favored just economics in which the rich give up their riches (Matthew 19:16) and the poor inherit the kingdom (Luke 6:20).</span></p>
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		<title>The Good Samaritans of Alabama</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 21:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Deacon Hall</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The New York Times just published a storyabout a cadre of Bishops  in Alabama suing the state over the passage of a new and tough immigration law. They (rightly) claim that this law is so ambiguously written that it could disallow them the right to act toward immigrants as they claim Christians are commanded: as [...]]]></description>
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<p>The <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/14/us/14immig.html?ref=us&amp;gwh=A3E306A14CC505310C2191632079FFAD" target="_blank">New York Times just published a story</a>about a cadre of Bishops  in Alabama suing the state over the passage of a new and tough immigration law. They (rightly) claim that this law is so ambiguously written that it could disallow them the right to act toward immigrants as they claim Christians are commanded: as good Samaritans. I don’t pretend to know what the right answer for immigration reform is in the US; I tend to think that the way that each side often looks at the current issue is, on the right, xenophobic and, on the left, unsustainable. However, I’m not trying to conjure another simplistic debate one way or the other in this post. (I’m implicating my above views in this st</p>
<p>atement.) <strong>What I would like to say is that I’m in <em>complete</em> solidarity with my own Episcopal Church, the Methodist Church, and the Roman Catholic Church of Alabama on this matter and that they and their suit will be in my prayers.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Perhaps more importantly from a theological-political level, however, the issue raises for me the importance of the separation of Church and State in the U.S. and the tension that exists between the ultimate allegences of each institution.</strong> On the one hand, the Church stands always and forever for a Kingdom that we cannot bring but must do our best to imitate in the here and now; they are right to see this as a “Kingdom issue,” for lack of a better term. In this Kingdom, there is neither Jew or Greek, man or woman. All tribalisms die. On the other hand, the State necessarily stands for the collective interests of its people, protecting them and their material and legal well-being first. (I’m not claiming that’s what the State of Alabama is actually doing, by the way; <a href="http://www.economist.com/blogs/freeexchange/2011/05/immigration" target="_blank">I’d probably believe just the opposite</a>. I won’t doubt that the State is <em>trying</em> to protect its citizens, however.) This means the state <em>is</em> a tribal formation grounded in the idea of common-law and heritage.</p>
<p>However these tensions between Church and State <em>ought </em>to play themselves out within individuals and institutions, the beauty of this particular issue is how it exemplifies the impossibility of the situation: that <strong>these two institutions <em>do</em> and <em>will</em> butt heads. If they don’t, one of the two institutions is doing something wrong!</strong></p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 05:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Friend and Fellow Deacon (as in Wake Forest Divinity School Deacon) Aaron wrote this amazing blog post and I talked him into letting me share it. Be Ye Provoked! Over the last few years, I’ve come to the conclusion that the most important and dangerous issue we face as a society is education. There are [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/neo_liberalism1.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-6660" title="neo_liberalism" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/neo_liberalism1.jpg" alt="" width="301" height="214" /></a> <a href="http://therivermerchant.blogspot.com/">Friend and Fellow Deacon</a> (as in <a href="http://divinity.wfu.edu/">Wake Forest Divinity Schoo</a>l Deacon) Aaron wrote this amazing blog post and I talked him into letting me share it. Be Ye Provoked!</p>
<p>Over the last few years, I’ve come to the conclusion that the most important and dangerous issue we face as a society is education. There are multiple reasons for this, but perhaps the most compelling is that there is no difference between education and democracy.  What I mean by that is the same thing that educational philosopher John Dewey argued in his seminal work ‘<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_and_Education">Democracy and Education</a>’ – which is that the major aim of education should be to promote self-aware, critical thinkers who understand their interdependence with and responsibility to the society in which they live.</p>
<p>If you believe the major premise of Dewey’s argument – that democracy and education are so intertwined they literally cannot be separated – then it is immediately obvious why a vibrant education is the most important thing in the country. More important, even, than national defense, the economic outlook, etc…</p>
<p>Now the tragedy is that our current educational discourse presents two equally terrible options: either our legislators are silent on the issue of education (i.e. they just don’t care), or they are vocal and hold a terribly mistaken understanding of what education is, and its goals. I believe that, unless the current trajectory of education is changed, it will ultimately collapse our already<a href="http://www.progressivereader.com/2010/04/28/thin-democracy-vs-living-democracy/"> thinning democracy</a>. I’m quite serious about this.</p>
<div>Now, how is it that we’ve put a gun to the head of the best education system in the history of the world and pulled the trigger? Well, the reasons for this are as deep as they are wide, but the primary driver behind the dismantling education (secondary and post-secondary) is a thing called neoliberalism.</div>
<p>In a nutshell, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism">neoliberalism</a> is the idea that everything in society should be measured by a market-driven approach. It assumes not only are those with ‘business experience’ more capable and qualified to oversee any system of policymaking or administration, but that all things essentially boil down to business analytics and standards.</p>
<p>I don’t want to harp on this point too much, but the short version of the story is this: this assumption is not only dead wrong, it going to end up destroying our democracy and our way of life. It is fueled by a McCarthy-era fear of economic globalization, meaning that the US will no longer be the economic bully it once was. It is grounded in a number of hugely mistaken philosophical ideas about the nature of human existence, knowing and learning (which I don’t bore you with, but will happy to discuss at a later date). It has made itself manifest across all sectors of society, but the one I, personally, most interested in is education for the aforementioned reasons.</p>
<p>What it’s meant in terms of education is the absolutely ludicrous claim that the ultimate aim of education is economics. It extends this premise into the argument that business methods and mindsets (based on a completely naive understanding of knowing, teaching and learning) are best suited to the education system: training models, comparable performance measures, efficiencies of scale, standardization. Viola! Education has now become big business.(FYI: Obama&#8217;s policies on education are more destructive and terrifying than George W. Bush&#8217;s)</p>
<p>This neoliberal disease has reached near fever pitch. Here’s a good example: the Wake County School System (traditionally considered a model of public education in moderately urban environments) hired retired Army Brig. Gen. <a href="http://www.indyweek.com/indyweek/wake-superintendent-anthony-tatas-dubious-qualifications/Content?oid=1933205">Anthony J. Tata</a> to run its system. His credentials? A 12-month training program at a big business education training facility. In any other field, this would be considered absolute lunacy. Could you imagine taking a one-year course in medicine and then being hired to run Duke Medical Center? Well, the people of Wake County decided that was not only acceptable, it was preferable to alternatives like, say, taking the best a brightest in the field of education as a leader for the system.</p>
<div>I will leave you with two thoughts:</div>
<div>(1) There are some things we will never be able to reduce to statistics and business models. Education (like art) is one of them. In the end, we’re going to produce generations of people who (at best) have no ability to think. This will not only kill our democracy, it will (ironically) kill our economy because Americas “human capital” (neoliberal term) will dry up. Teachers have known this all along, which is why <a href="http://www.indyweek.com/indyweek/wake-superintendent-anthony-tatas-dubious-qualifications/Content?oid=1933205">helping kids cheat is becoming an act of civil disobedience</a>.</div>
<div>(2)  This is not simply a political or economic issue. This is a moral issue, a justice issue, an issue of civil rights and we must take a stand against it. I hope you will join me.</div>
<div>Further reading:</div>
<p>“<a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1999/03/the-market-as-god/6397/">The Market As God</a>” by Harvey Cox</p>
<div><a href="http://charterschoolscandals.blogspot.com/">Charter School Scandals Blog</a></div>
<div><a href="http://www.solreform.org/">Parents Across Virginia United Against SOLs</a></div>
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		<title>Texas and Evolution: Can We Move on Now?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 23:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Deacon Hall</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ I should start this post with a disclaimer: I believe that Texas is one of the three craziest states in the union, right up there with Alaska and California! Texas, however, is currently taking the first place prize (for the week, anyways) in its re-instantiation of debates concerning the teaching of evolution in public schools. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/evolution.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-6574" title="evolution" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/evolution-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a> I should start this post with a disclaimer: I believe that Texas is one of the three craziest states in the union, right up there with Alaska and California! Texas, however, is currently taking the first place prize (for the week, anyways) in its re-instantiation of debates concerning the teaching of evolution in public schools. That is, <strong><a href="http://www.dallasobserver.com/2011-07-21/news/viva-la-evolution/">Texas’ Board of Education is again taking up the question of whether evolutionary thought is allowed exclusive domain in public schools as a theory of how life emerges</a> </strong>and whether there can be intellectual debate about evolutions’ factuality in a formal, statewide education.</p>
<p><strong>I personally think, however, that the whole debate is smitten with a series of category mistakes, which I’d like to  address.</strong> I’ll begin by  briefly reconstructing two of the more audacious positions on the matter. First via atheistic evolutionary-biologists, evolution is taken not only to be a true account of human biology, but it is taken to absolutely <em>negate </em>the factual existence of God based on the fact that God is not necessary for evolution. Second, and via creationists, evolution is taken to be untrue precisely <em>because it negates</em> the factual existence of God, the Bibilical accounts of which must be given precedence as that are incommensurate with a evolutionary world. These debates, then, make two category mistakes.</p>
<p><strong>First, God is not, I don’t think, an object among other objects or a “fact” among other “facts,”</strong> as I use the term above. That is, if one looks around the room, one has an experience of different objects in the room; one experiences the chairs, knowing in these experiences the functionality and usefulness of the chairs; one experiences the cushions under one’s bottoms, understanding that without them, one would sit on something far more hard. But one does not have an experience of God in this way precisely because God’s being is absolutely distinct from those empirical objects that give themselves over to our perceptions in their uses and qualities.</p>
<p>God, rather, is “invisible,” as the old term goes, which cannot be taken to mean, again, an object in the room that’s unseen, but something utterly different than objects that surround us. <strong>That is, when we talk of God, I don’t believe we talk about a direct experience but about what could be called a re-orientation of our experiences.</strong> That is, we are addressed by that which is completely other than ourselves in such a way that our previous ways of experiencing are brought into question and formed anew. Paul calls this new experience of the world given by God an experience of the world in terms of faith, hope, and love. I take this to mean that we can no longer experience the world solely in terms of its usefulness for us, especially other people, but in terms of what God intended and intends for it—that what is now the case need not always be so!</p>
<p><strong>In this way, it is silly to try and attest to God’s being by way of factuality and as a fact among other facts. This is a categorically mistaken way of thinking about God’s being, which cannot be proved or disproved as such.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Second, what evolution has more precisely to do with God depends entirely on whether one already stands conscientiously re-oriented within the being of God and, thus, how one interprets the meaning of <em>any</em> worldly fact, <em>including evolution</em>.</strong> That is, both sides are wrong to think that evolution says anything <em>necessary</em> about God prior to a belief in God. Rather, one can only interpret the meaning of evolution based on one’s assumption that there is or is not a God. Thus, Christians, for instance, can and do not only affirm the factuality of evolution but can also very specifically interpret evolution as <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0800663187/?tag=homebrechrist-20">God’s working out</a> of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0824505239/?tag=homebrechrist-20">salvation history</a>! Atheists, likewise, can see that, by means of evolution, we do not <em>need</em> to posit a God, which they are absolutely right about even in Christian terms; after all, God is always a gift and never a necessity, which is why the language of emanation has been dropped for the language of grace.</p>
<p>The truth of the matter, then, is that evolution can (and does) stand as a factually demonstrable way to interpret the so called natural history of humanity and the earth while, at the same time, saying absolutely <em>nothing necessary</em> about God, especially in terms of God being interpreted as a fact among other facts.<strong> Either way, one can rightly affirm the factuality of evolutionary processes, which really shouldn’t be up for debate.</strong></p>
<p>The only matters that ought to be up for debate are evolution’s interpretive possibilities.<strong></strong></p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2011 20:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bo Sanders</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I continue to be very excited about the Claremont Lincoln University Project to bring together Jewish, Muslim and Christian scholars and practitioners. It is essential for the future that each tradition initiate its young leaders and thinkers in at atmosphere of mutual exchange and understanding. The reason this is so important is that these three [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I continue to be very excited about the <a href="http://www.claremontlincoln.org/" target="_blank">Claremont Lincoln University Project</a> to bring together Jewish, Muslim and Christian scholars and practitioners. It is essential for the future that each tradition initiate its young leaders and thinkers in at atmosphere of mutual exchange and understanding.<a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Palouse2TreeSunsetFusion2_22.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6537" title="Palouse2TreeSunsetFusion2_2" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Palouse2TreeSunsetFusion2_22-300x199.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="199" /></a></p>
<p>The reason this is so important is that <strong>these three religions are not the same</strong>. They are not simply three expressions of a common understanding. They are vastly and distinctly different from each other. Of course there is commonality and overlap – for instance all three are a covenantal people and point to a covenant they have with God. I am interested to hear how each of the three groups reflects on and lives into their particular understanding.</p>
<p>Many Christians seem to think that the big difference between Christianity and both Islam and Judaism is what they believe about Christ. I do not think that views on Jesus is the biggest difference between the three. In fact, I am suspicious that any Christian willingness to <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/07/11/true-religion-always-revising-renovating-and-reviving/" target="_blank">revisit</a> a wooden-literal reading of passages like John 14:6 or <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/07/11/true-religion-always-revising-renovating-and-reviving/" target="_blank">reexamin</a>e the language and meta-physics of the creedal formulations would easily result in an understanding that did not violate the Quranic understanding that <em>God has no children</em>. Vocabularies of ‘how God was present in Christ’ are already being worked out by followers of the prophet Isa (Jesus) in Muslim countries. [Link:<a href="http://www.westernseminary.edu/papers/Faculty/ETS/ETS%2006%20Allison%20C1.doc" target="_blank"> an article on c-6 contextualization</a>]</p>
<p>In my mind, <strong>there is a much bigger difference between the three religions than an understanding of Jesus’ identity</strong>. It has to do with the earth.</p>
<p>Christianity is primarily time based. While the Christian gospel is one of incarnation, ironically, Christianity has become something that is not place-based and especially not land-based. This is easily illustrated by looking at some Muslim practices and noticing their absence or contrast in Christianity.</p>
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<li><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>Prayer Direction</strong>:</span> When Muslim pray, they face Mecca. This is a directional earth-relative orientation. Christianity lacks this orientation.</li>
<li><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>Pilgrimage:</strong></span> Once in their lives Muslims are expected to make a pilgrimage to Mecca. This is an intentional journey to a specific location on the surface of the earth that holds special meaning. Christianity has no such thing.</li>
<li><strong><span style="color: #800000;">Sunset:</span></strong> Certain holy days are marked as beginning at “sundown” or when a specific <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eid_ul-Fitr" target="_blank">phase of the moon</a> first appears as observed in a set location. This shows an awareness of the seasons, the sun, and the moon. Christian holy days and holidays are based on a calendar and clock.</li>
<li><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>Language</strong></span>: If you want to read the Quran you need to learn Arabic. The Christian gospel is not only translatable into any language – Christians believe that it should be translated into every language. The Gospel is equally valid in any and every language.</li>
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<p>In his book <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0802821642/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Whose Religion is Christianity?: the Gospel beyond the West</a></em>, Lamin Sanneh puts it this way:</p>
<blockquote><p>Being that the original scripture of the Christian movement, the New Testament Gospels are translated versions of the message of Jesus, and that means Christianity is a translated religion without a revealed language. The issue is not whether Christians translated their scriptures well or willingly, but that without translation there would be no Christianity or Christians. Translation is the church’s birthmark …<strong> Christianity  seems unique in being the only world religion that is transmitted without the language or originating culture of its founder</strong> (p. 97-98)</p></blockquote>
<p>I have several more examples of difference (including names of God and views of “holy” land) but I simply wanted to illustrate that these are three covenantal religions that all point to Abraham, they are significantly different from each other in practice and understanding. That is why I am excited to hear what they each bring to the table and what we might be able to learn from each other… because we bring such unique, distinct, and particular expressions to the conversation.</p>
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		<title>God Takes Sides&#8230;.or When Karl Barth Was Right</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2011 08:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tripp Fuller</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ God takes sides. I was talking to an adult member of my church yesterday about the fight over the debt limit.  At some point I said &#8220;well God has already taken sides and I am not sure it is being voiced.&#8221;  I went on to say I have no divinely ordained policy prescriptions but scripture [...]]]></description>
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<p>I was talking to an adult member of my church yesterday about the fight over the debt limit.  At some point I said &#8220;well God has already taken sides and I am not sure it is being voiced.&#8221;  I went on to say I have no divinely ordained policy prescriptions but scripture is clear descriptively about what God celebrates and abhors in a nation.  The conversation was a bunch of fun and at the end of my Baptist Bible-flippin tour of justice she said, &#8220;Wow I had no idea. You should preach that sometime.&#8221;  After that I decided I should at least post a blog and say explicitly&#8230;.God takes sides.</p>
<p>God takes the side of the oppressed, marginalized, impoverished and excluded. God is <em>for</em> them.  God is also <em>against</em> the oppressors, violators, full and power wielders.  Pharaoh knows this to be the case, the Prophets proclaimed, and Jesus&#8217; Mom put it to song.  A little attention to scripture and one quickly sees that the actual material reality of people is a preoccupation of God.  In fact God did not mind legislating the redistribution of land, forgiveness of debt, and imposing upon Israel&#8217;s elite the necessity of a social safety net.  There was even this dude named Jesus who told a crazy parable about God judging nations for failing to take these national obligations seriously while getting the religious vocabulary correct.</p>
<p>I know we don&#8217;t like the idea of God taking sides.  It gets most people who go to most churches mad, at least in America, because we know we are likely among the most full, wealthy, and powerful people this planet has ever seen.  Yet the church and its leaders often edit, soft pedal, and nuance their way around these divine calls for material transformation.  People like me are scared to say something because we know we usually suck at changing our own patterns and feel powerless to change the suicidal system we were born into but for those who spend their life studying the Christian faith this call is pretty clear.</p>
<p>Now I could go on a good rant now about how the present economic showdown demonstrates how economism has become the one true religion of the state that binds both political parties together or how the American church is so impotent that demonstrating less regard for the poor is a means to securing their support&#8230;.but then I might get out of hand fast. So instead here are two quotes from the 20th century&#8217;s most famous orthodox theologians&#8230;.not progressive, liberal, social gospelers, feminist, or liberation theologians&#8230;.Barth and Bonhoeffer were not interested in those games, loved some Trinity, didn&#8217;t need to put a word between Jesus Christ (ex. Jesus as the Christ), and had no trouble lecturing on eschatology.  Hope you get the idea &#8211; the 20th century&#8217;s orthodox articulators knew the God of Israel who was incarnate in Jesus took sides and I think they could help us out today&#8230;..and of course they can&#8217;t get run out of town.</p>
<blockquote><p>God always takes His stand unconditionally and passionately on this side and on this side alone: against the lofty and on behalf of the lowly; against those who already enjoy right and privilege and on behalf of those who are denied it and deprived of it&#8230;.The Command of God is a call for the championing of the weak against every kind of encroachment on the part of the strong. &#8211; Karl Barth</p></blockquote>
<p>Bonhoeffer here describes the place from which the church should examine and assess a situation, the place from which one can come to see reality as a Christian&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>It remains an experience of unmatched value that we have learned to see the great events of history from the underside, from the perspective of the eliminated, the suspect, the abused, the powerless, the oppressed, and the ridiculed, in short, from the perspective of the suffering.</p></blockquote>
<p>How would our present economic impasse and the conflict and conversations around it be different if this divine command was on our hearts?  How would the budget negotiations, taxes, spending, and debt appear from the perspective of America&#8217;s underside?</p>
<p>What would it take for the church and its leaders to admit we really to suck at being faithful both in our own material existence and in our fidelity to God&#8217;s dream for the world in our church leadership?</p>
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		<dc:creator>Bo Sanders</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Religions need revision. This is even true of made up ones! Scientology has been in the news over the past months for all the wrong reasons: splinter groups, rival factions, money issues, coercive strategies for intimidating dissenters, and even heated theological debates. [check out last week’s Time article for instance] And this is a religion [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Religions need revision. This is even true of made up ones! Scientology has been in the news over the past months for all the wrong reasons: splinter groups, rival factions, money issues, coercive strategies for intimidating dissenters, and even heated theological debates. [check out <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/great-scientology-implosion-author-details-church-decline-081206612.html" target="_blank">last week’s Time article</a> for instance]<a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Boy-at-Cockflight_3.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6529" title="Boy at Cockflight_3" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Boy-at-Cockflight_3-300x200.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="200" /></a></p>
<p>And this is a religion where we have writings of the founder.  In fact, one of the original tenets of the religion (started just 50 years ago) was that nothing was allowed to be changed in the future. This stands is stark contrast to Christianity where we don’t have any writings of the founder (thank God) and have a model that is incarnational – which means that the religion is inherently contextual and translatable. [read<a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_0_12?url=search-alias%3Daps&amp;field-keywords=lamin+sanneh&amp;sprefix=lamin+sanneh" target="_blank"> Lamin Sanneh’s books</a> like <em>Who’s Religion is Christianity?</em> and <em>Translating the Message</em> if you want to see a contemporary contrast with Islam - like ours, a religion based on revelation.]</p>
<p><strong>All religion needs revision – or re-visiting, re-imagining, and reviving.</strong> Some people object to this much needed procedure. The arguments tend to fall in two broad divisions.</p>
<p><strong>1)</strong> Those who object to deconstruction because it feels like destruction. This is understandable because when you hold dear something sacred, it is precious and worth protecting.</p>
<p>I would simply argue that like any house or house of worship, if it is going to continue to be useful, it will need to go under renovation – a re-examining with a critical lens (deconstruction) is actually a loving act of clearing room for the renovations  that need to happen.</p>
<p><em><strong>If we didn’t love it and intend to live in it, we would walk away, burn it down, or blow it up.</strong></em></p>
<p><strong>2)</strong> The second objection seems to be more theoretical, less sentimental but equally as defensive. It comes from those who object by saying “that is not what those who came before would have recognized as the faith” or “those who ________  (wrote the creeds, were reformers, etc.) thought that they were doing something that you now say they did not accomplish (making meta-physical statements, producing a once for all systematic theology, etc.)</p>
<p>In this case, I would simply argue, with Bernard of Chartres, that we are dwarves who stand on the shoulders of giants. We have a perspective that they did not have. Ours then is a 2nd order reflection on their 1st order activity. They were in the arena, we are in the balcony. This sets up two tensions: <strong>A)</strong> it is not possible to do what they did nor is it possible to disregard it  <strong>B)</strong> you know a tree by it’s fruit and we now see that they may not have done what they thought they were doing at the time.</p>
<p><strong>This is the critical element.</strong> We are part of a living tradition that lives out faith in community – communities that are radically located in particular times and places. Our tradition proclaims an incarnational gospel and orients around a living word of God. That is, both conceptually and practically, an ongoing model of revision, renovation and revival. In these ways our faith stands in distinct contrast to other religions – especially made up ones.</p>
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		<title>Big Win for Obamacare</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 22:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Deacon Hall</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In light of yesterday’s Federal ruling that Obamacare’s famous individual mandate is legal, I would like to offer a few thoughts on why I think this is a good thing. That is, in the already emerging run up to the next presidential election, Obamacare is at stake. If the legality of the health-care proposal isn’t [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/1231516318-gores.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-6475" title="1231516318-gores" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/1231516318-gores-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a> In light of yesterday’s Federal ruling that <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/30/us/30health.html?_r=1&amp;hp">Obamacare’s famous individual mandate is legal</a>, I would like to offer a few thoughts on why I think this is a good thing. That is, in the already emerging run up to the next presidential election, Obamacare is at stake. If the legality of the health-care proposal isn’t being shot down by activist conservative judges, it’s under attack by Republican presidential contenders. That said, I’m not one to argue much about the overall virtues or vices of Obama’s health reforms; certainly, some of its provisions seem to go too far and others not far enough. That’s probably the truth of any political document in general right now. <strong><em>However</em>, what I can do is argue that such legislation is probably overall good for Americans in the current economic situation, allowing for, and encouraging, a new breed of entrepreneurs.</strong></p>
<p>The first point to recognize is that, after the market crash of 2008, the economic situation around the world, including the US, has significantly changed. <strong>Fulltime jobs with benefits and retirements are becoming a long-lost reality to some of us.</strong> Rather, a host of persons are recognizing that the only way in which to make money during this dismal economic state is to work several jobs at once, some through traditional means and some through entrepreneurial means. In neither case, however, are health insurance benefits a built in provision. Individuals, rather, must be able to buy these benefits on their own. Herein lies the first rub.</p>
<p>One can really only gain access to health insurance right now <em>if one has a job through which one can gain a bargaining position against insurance companies</em>; this tends especially to be the case if one has a pre-existing conditions (which many, if not most, persons do according to insurance standards). My wife and I are fortunate; she has a good, fulltime, benefitted job, and I am able to buy into her insurance program through her work. Before that, however, I had no insurance. This was not for a lack of trying to gain insurance nor an unwillingness to pay an insurance premium. It so happens that I have a pre-existing condition called asthma, which means that I was rejected from several insurance packages, even the large-deductible, low-pay insurance plans called “catastrophic insurance.” <strong>In other words, hard-working, entrepeneurial people who are willing to pay for insurance packages cannot even gain access to such packages if they want to, not without a federal mandate forcing insurance companies to offer insurance packages to such persons.</strong></p>
<p>Second, I must admit to personally seeing <em>some</em> benefits to the new economic situation outlined in the second paragraph. <strong>Old and dying institutions—their structures and their modes of compensation—may finally get a chance to do just that: rest in peace.</strong> Moreover, an entire order built around them and their demands may itself teeter. Why is this <em>possibly</em> a good thing (and one can only be hopeful without being dogmatic that things will turn out “better”)? When one works several jobs at once, entrepreneurially piecing together several partial jobs into a living, there is a certain amount of freedom one can gain, especially from the traditional demands of managers, work-weeks, and work-places. These demands will, of course, be replaced by other demands, but, with some luck, hopefully more based on the values and schedule of the entrepreneur, who can now choose to work mostly from home, set aside time to spend with one’s children, etc. In other words, there may be new economic opportunities that allow an entrepreneur to live a more fulfilling family life while still contributing to the overall economy.</p>
<p>I happen to know several persons who are thinking in precisely this way and <em>want</em> to take a chance and step out entrepreneurally into this new economy and stake a small claim. Presumably, too, this is the kind of creative self-expropriation that conservatives who despise Obamacare concern themselves. What, however, is the main reason that persons do not in fact jump out into this new economy and try to develop their nascent but burgeoning ideas? They don’t want to subject their children to the possibility of losing the health benefits attached to their current jobs—health benefits that, again, they can gain in no other way than through such jobs. <strong>Herein arises a concrete contradiction on the right: Obamacare would, for all its faults, encourage entrepreneurship by allowing persons who <em>want</em> to separate themselves from dying corporate institutions to do just that while retaining the main benefit of working at older institutions: access to health insurance.</strong></p>
<p>With these points made, I don’t try to offer anything particularly new or innovative here, and readers probably have a myriad of other reasons for both accepting and rejecting the proposals. However, I’ve simply wanted to offer a couple of thoughts on why conservative opposition to Obamacare on <em>economic</em> grounds is absolutely misplaced. Just the opposite: <strong>Obamacare will help hard-working, entrepreneurial people to continue to add economic strength and vitality to a dying economy.</strong></p>
<p>In my next political post, I’ll give you my reasons for deciphering my political positions not by party but by joint opposition to the US Chamber of Commerce and the AARP.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 23:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bo Sanders</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[On this holiday when we remember those who served and died, there are so many interesting things that get presented and portrayed in regards to our national storyline. Some of them are valiant and deep, others are pithy and cliched. There is one, however, that gets used pretty flippantly and after I hear it a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On this holiday when we remember those who served and died, there are  so many interesting things that get presented and portrayed in regards  to our national storyline. Some of them are valiant and deep, others are  pithy and cliched. There is one, however, that gets used pretty  flippantly and after I hear it a dozen times or so, it starts to grate  on me a little bit.</p>
<p><strong>“Freedom isn’t free”.</strong> You see on T-shirts, bumper stickers and hear it is discussions about past wars. I get it. I see what is behind the saying.<br />
No, freedom isn’t free &#8211; not in this world of selfish sin (on a small  scale) and dominating Empire (on a big scale) but I think that it is  important to make two clarifications about this saying.</p>
<p><strong>Freedom is not solely the result of our military &#8211; and freedom is not all our military does.</strong></p>
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<li>The first one is important to clarify because in our <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm1B7x5JZfE" target="_blank">Military Industrial Complex</a> (Dwight Eisenhower warned of it and those who profit from it in his  farewell speech), our the freedom that we enjoy is not bestowed  by  military action. That is not the source of our freedoms.</li>
<li>The  second one is important to clarify because freedom is not the only  business that America’s foreign policy participates in. The US  involvement in S. America, Asia, Africa and Europe is not simply  explained as a ‘force for freedom’. There is a lot more going on than  just a heart for global democracy.</li>
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<p>I think this is  appropriate to address on occasions like Memorial Day. It is not  dishonoring to those who served and died to use our freedoms in order to  call for accountability for America’s addiction to militarism or to  examine America’s foreign policy.</p>
<p>In fact, seen from my point of  view &#8211; it is downright honoring to utilize my freedom this way and it  demonstrates an appreciation for the exact freedom that allows me to  spend time on this day off to do so.</p>
<p>It seems more essential than ever in the current budget crisis.</p>
<p>Gareth Higgins said in his interview<a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/05/18/the-goose-is-loose-with-gareth-higgins-homebrewed-christianity-102/" target="_blank"> (Homebrewed  102) </a>that looking at the budget and not accounting for the (<em>untouchable</em>) military expenditure is like being on weight watcher and not counting any of the points of an unhealthy breakfast and wondering why the program isn&#8217;t working.</p>
<p>It is one thing to say that our freedom comes at a price. No one is debating that. But to not count the cost and then wonder why we are flirting with bankruptcy is just foolishness disguised as patriotism.</p>
<p>On this Memorial Day, I am already dreading September 11th &#8211; the Ten year celebrations and the unquestioned, unchallenged national story.</p>
<p>What we need is <em><strong>theological </strong></em>examination of where freedom comes from and what is the real price.</p>
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		<title>Sojourners, Identity Politics, &amp; Justice: RATT 3</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 19:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tripp Fuller</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sojourners caused a stir when they wouldn&#8217;t publish a &#8220;Believe Out Loud&#8221; ad. Jim Wallis attempted to explain the decision but it didn&#8217;t ease the tension for everyone.  When I saw Tony Jones, Brian McLaren, First Things, Christianity Today, Peter, David Henson, Chad Holtz, &#38; (my favorite post) Nadia Bolz-Weber all in my RSS feed [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sojourners caused a stir when they wouldn&#8217;t publish<a href="http://www.believeoutloud.com/million-strong"> a &#8220;Believe Out Loud&#8221;</a> ad. <a href="http://blog.sojo.net/2011/05/09/a-statement-on-sojourners-mission-and-lgbtq-issues/">Jim Wallis attempted to explain</a> the decision but it didn&#8217;t ease the tension for everyone.  When I saw <a href="http://blog.tonyj.net/2011/05/adding-nuance-to-the-sojourners-kerfuffle/">Tony</a> Jones, <a href="http://www.redletterchristians.org/my-thoughts-on-sojourners/">Brian </a>McLaren, Fi<a href="http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2011/05/11/standing-with-sojourners-when-progressive-isn%E2%80%99t-progressive-enough/">rst Thin</a>gs, Chris<a href="http://blog.christianitytoday.com/ctpolitics/2011/05/sojourners_decl.html">tianity Tod</a>ay, P<a href="http://www.emergingchristian.com/2011/05/response-from-and-to-sojourners/#comment-2923">ete</a>r, D<a href="http://unorthodoxology.blogspot.com/2011/05/jim-wallis-sojourners-divided-justice.html">avid Hens</a>on, C<a href="http://chadholtz.net/2011/05/11/come-stand-with-me-time-to-believe-out-loud/">had Holt</a>z, &amp; (my favorite post) <a href="http://sarcasticlutheran.typepad.com/sarcastic_lutheran/2011/05/my-response-to-sojourners-.html">Nadia Bolz-Weber</a> all in my RSS feed talking about it I started to blog about it and then I went on a trip with my youth over the weekend.  When I got back one of my awesome youth had changed my mind on the issue (she is uber-brilliant&#8230;.a junior in High School who loves Kierkegaard!). So here is <a href="http://rachelheldevans.com/">Rachel Held Evans</a> and I talking about Sojourners, identity politics, the sexuality conversation in the church, justice, and other such stuff in the third episode of RATT!  Enjoy!!</p>
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<p><a href="http://vimeo.com/24155975">Sojourners, Identity Politics, &#038; Justice: RATT 3</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user1101540">tripp fuller</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
<p>* To be clear I am Welcoming and Embracing of all people and R<a href="http://rachelheldevans.com/">achel </a>has NOT said the same thing as me.</p>
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		<title>Hangover: waking up from the rapture</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 22:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bo Sanders</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is a newspaper report and interview with Harold Camping: Washington Post article The thing that people seem to be feeling bad about is that some gullible individuals got duped. I am sympathetic with the mild compassion&#8230;but I think that there is something far more sinister and devastating that we should be piping mad about and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a newspaper report and interview with Harold Camping: <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/under-god/post/harold-camping-speaks-after-rapture-fails-to-begin-on-may-21/2011/05/23/AFxMIp9G_blog.html" target="_blank">Washington Post article</a></p>
<p>The thing that people seem to be feeling bad about is that some gullible individuals got duped. I am sympathetic with the mild compassion&#8230;but I think that there is something far more sinister and devastating that we should be piping mad about and are justified in mocking (or at least being cynical about).<a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Palouse2TreeSunsetFusion2_2.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6261" title="Palouse2TreeSunsetFusion2_2" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Palouse2TreeSunsetFusion2_2-300x199.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="199" /></a></p>
<p>I remember in 1988 and 1991 people dropping out of the Bible College that my dad taught at to go home and &#8216;save&#8217; their family and friends&#8230;. also no sense in racking up credits for a degree you are never going to finish!  Look &#8211; until we stop all this <em>mumbo jumbo</em> stuff, the newer folks are going to continue to get duped.</p>
<p><strong>I was shocked last week at how many Christians said things like &#8220;well &#8211; Camping is mostly right, this stuff will all happen, its just that we don&#8217;t know the day or hour.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>SO basically (as it has been presented to me)</p>
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<li> Thinking all this stuff will happen on May 21 = crazy.</li>
<li> Thinking all this will happen but we don’t know when = acceptable.</li>
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<p>I was raised to read the Bible the <em>fantastic</em> way. But  knowing a even a little bit about the 5 centuries before Christ and the 2 centuries after quickly made reading the Bible that way impossible.</p>
<p>Reading the Bible in this &#8216;dispensational&#8217; way &#8211; or what is called the &#8220;mountain tops&#8221; view of history &#8211; is not really faithful to the text or historically accurate. It is based on linear view of time, a literal reading of the text, and sketchy view of history.</p>
<p>The simple fact is that Apocalyptic literature is not to be read like a newspaper or a contract. It is a different genre. If we don&#8217;t know how to read the Apocalyptic narrative then we do odd things with the details of the text in Daniel, Matthew 24 and the book of Revelation.</p>
<p>If we have hope for the future, if we believe that Jesus is &#8216;coming back&#8217; &#8211; for me, it has far more to do with the resurrection than it does with the prophecy passages of Scripture.</p>
<p>Check out Tripp Fuller&#8217;s <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/under-god/post/harold-camping-speaks-after-rapture-fails-to-begin-on-may-21/2011/05/23/AFxMIp9G_blog.html" target="_blank">video about the resurrection.</a></p>
<p>Here is N.T. Wright in a 2001 <a href="http://www.ntwrightpage.com/Wright_BR_Farewell_Rapture.htm" target="_blank">article &#8220;Farewell to the Rapture</a>&#8221; where he says:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Paul’s mixed metaphors of trumpets blowing and the living being snatched into heaven to meet the Lord are not to be understood as literal truth, but as a vivid and biblically allusive description of the great transformation of the present world of which he speaks elsewhere.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Welcome to the World Claremont Lincoln University!!!!</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 21:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today is a very exciting day for all those with connections to Claremont School of Theology!  The visionary President Jerry Campbell has succeeded in putting together the first inter-religious University on our planet.  With a very generous gift from Joan and David Lincoln, beginning next fall Rabbis, Clergy, and Imams will all be training for [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.claremontlincoln.org/"><img class="alignleft" src="http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/1355349665/CLU_logo_rgb_reasonably_small.jpg" alt="" width="128" height="128" /></a> Today is <a href="http://blog.sojo.net/2011/05/16/claremont-lincoln-the-worlds-first-interreligious-university/">a very exciting day </a>for all those with connections to Claremont School of Theology!  The visionary President Jerry Campbell has succeeded in putting together the first inter-religious University on our planet.  With <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-theology-20110516,0,5163422.story?track=rss">a very generous gift</a> from <a href="http://www.claremontlincoln.org/news/2011/05/16/claremont-lincoln-university-established-with-50-m/">Joan and David Lincoln</a>, beginning next fall Rabbis, Clergy, and Imams will all be training for ministry on the same campus.  The Lincoln family are Methodist lay leaders from <a href="http://www.pvumc.org/">Paradise Valley U</a>MC who are dedicated to working for a cooperative and compassionate future for the world&#8217;s religions. (I bet their church is very proud!)</p>
<blockquote><p>“Joan and I are particularly pleased with the idea of creating a multireligious university that reflects the power and potential of the ‘Golden Rule,’ which the many religious communities have in common,” said David Lincoln. “We believe the outcome of this kind of education will be tolerance and respect among religions. It will better equip our future leaders to address global problems where religious cooperation is needed to reach solutions and repair the world.”</p></blockquote>
<p>The new University&#8217;s name will carry the name of this remarkable family &#8211; <a href="http://www.claremontlincoln.org/"><strong>Claremont Lincoln University</strong> (the new homepage!</a>).</p>
<p>I am most excited because of the <em>way</em> the new University will be handling the inter-religious partnerships.  President Campbell said, &#8220;It&#8217;s important for us that the participating partners maintain their  own brands. We are not blending or merging. We are only looking for  understanding, respect and the possibility of collaboration.&#8221;  This to me is different than other inter-religious, multi-religious, or trans-religious visions.  Insisting on preserving, cherishing, and celebrating the distinctiveness of the different faith traditions will permit the diversity of each tradition to participate and not limit the students and the congregations they serve only to those already theologically open.   <a href="http://www.claremontlincoln.org/about/at-a-glance/history-and-structure/">The goal, as I understand it</a>, is not a common denominator version of religious pluralism but<em> a diverse collective of committed practitioners from multiple religions and multiple perspectives learning to listen to each other, learn from each other, and work with each other to address the major ethical crises facing our shared humanity</em>.</p>
<p>I am excited this dream is taking root today in Claremont.  So to Jerry for his vision and leadership throughout, the Lincoln family for their enormous support, and all those who have worked long hours getting to this point &#8211; THANK YOU!</p>
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		<title>Deacon Parker on &#8220;The Earthquake in Haiti, God, and the Arbitrariness of Life&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 18:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Taken from Ryan Parker @ pop theology (because it was awesome) By now, most people are just as familiar with Pat Robertson’s interpretation of the Haitian earthquake as they are with the natural disaster itself.  Yesterday, I came across two other theological responses to the quake, one by Al Mohler that is almost as offensive [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.poptheology.com/2010/01/arbitrariness-of-life/'> Taken from Ryan Parker @ pop theology (because it was awesome)</a></p>
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<p>By now, most people are just as familiar with Pat Robertson’s interpretation of the Haitian earthquake as they are with the natural disaster itself.  Yesterday, I came across two other theological responses to the quake, one by <a href='http://www.albertmohler.com/2010/01/14/does-god-hate-haiti/'>Al Mohler<img id='snap_com_shot_link_icon' class='snap_preview_icon' style='border: 0pt none; margin: 0pt ! important; padding: 1px 0pt 0pt; max-height: 2000px; max-width: 2000px; min-width: 0px; min-height: 0px; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; font-family: &quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; float: none; position: static; left: auto; top: auto; line-height: normal; background-image: url(http://i.ixnp.com/images/v6.19/theme/asphalt/palette.gif); background-color: transparent; visibility: visible; width: 14px; height: 12px; background-position:,943px 0pt; background-repeat: no-repeat; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: top; display: inline;' src='http://i.ixnp.com/images/v6.19/t.gif' alt='' /></a> that is almost as offensive as Robertson’s and another by <a href='http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-raushenbush/go-to-hell-pat-robertson_b_422397.html'>Paul Raushenbush<img id='snap_com_shot_link_icon' class='snap_preview_icon' style='border: 0pt none; margin: 0pt ! important; padding: 1px 0pt 0pt; max-height: 2000px; max-width: 2000px; min-width: 0px; min-height: 0px; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; font-family: &quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; float: none; position: static; left: auto; top: auto; line-height: normal; background-image: url(http://i.ixnp.com/images/v6.19/theme/asphalt/palette.gif); background-color: transparent; visibility: visible; width: 14px; height: 12px; background-position:,943px 0pt; background-repeat: no-repeat; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: top; display: inline;' src='http://i.ixnp.com/images/v6.19/t.gif' alt='' /></a> that is somewhat more appealing to me.  The responses to Raushenbush’s response are just as compelling as the article itself, as many non-religious readers responded with vitriol, asking where the supposedly omniscient and omnipotent Christian God was in the face of such a tragedy.  Clearly, in many different ways, <a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodicy'>theodicy<img id='snap_com_shot_link_icon' class='snap_preview_icon' style='border: 0pt none; margin: 0pt ! important; padding: 1px 0pt 0pt; max-height: 2000px; max-width: 2000px; min-width: 0px; min-height: 0px; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; font-family: &quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; float: none; position: static; left: auto; top: auto; line-height: normal; background-image: url(http://i.ixnp.com/images/v6.19/theme/asphalt/palette.gif); background-color: transparent; visibility: visible; width: 14px; height: 12px; background-position:,985px 0pt; background-repeat: no-repeat; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: top; display: inline;' src='http://i.ixnp.com/images/v6.19/t.gif' alt='' /></a> is at the forefront of our popular theology in these tragic days.  In a recent review of <em>Life.Support.Music.</em>, I referenced the question, “Is God as Arbitrary as Life?,” that was posed to the theologians at the Transforming Theology conference last spring.  We have finally uploaded the video and you can check it out after the jump.  You won’t agree with all of the answers (I certainly don’t), but they are deeply thoughtful and compassion alternatives to those of Pat Robertson and his ilk that, unfortunately, garner all the media attention.</p>
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		<title>Thus sayeth the Moore, &#8220;Capitalism is opposite everything Jesus taught&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 23:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michael Moore posted an editorial at the Huffington Post titled &#8216;For Those of You on Your Way to Church This Morning&#8230;&#8216;  While Mr. Moore is indeed a film maker, it appears that he is attempting to take up a prophetic mantel in his newest film Capitalism: A Love Story.  I haven&#8217;t seen the film so [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.michaelmoore.com/'> Michael Moore </a>posted an editorial at the Huffington Post titled &#8216;<a href='http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-moore/for-those-of-you-on-your_b_308948.html'>For Those of You on Your Way to Church This Morning&#8230;</a>&#8216;  <img class='alignleft' src='http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b4/Michael_moore.jpg' alt='' width='175' height='215' />While Mr. Moore is indeed a film maker, it appears that he is attempting to take up a prophetic mantel in his newest film <a href='http://www.capitalismalovestory.com/'><em>Capitalism: A Love Story</em></a>.  I haven&#8217;t seen the film so I won&#8217;t to say any more, but I will point you to a couple lines from his article that will hopefully get you to read it&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8216;Is capitalism a sin?&#8217; I go on to ask, &#8216;Would Jesus be a capitalist?&#8217; Would he belong to a hedge fund? Would he sell short? Would he approve of a system that has allowed the richest 1 percent to have more financial wealth than the 95 percent under them combined?</p></blockquote>
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<div id='new_selection_block0.5933853892563905' style='border: medium none; overflow: hidden; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; text-align: left; text-decoration: none;'>All the great religions are clear about one thing: It is evil to take the majority of the pie and leave what&#8217;s left for everyone to fight over. Jesus said that the rich man would have a very hard time getting into heaven. He told us that we had to be our brother&#8217;s and sister&#8217;s keepers and that the riches that did exist were to be divided fairly. He said that if you failed to house the homeless and feed the hungry, you&#8217;d have a hard time finding the pin code to the pearly gates.</div>
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<div style='border: medium none; overflow: hidden; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; text-align: left; text-decoration: none;'>For an editorial with under 500 words he does manage to echo 5 sayings of Jesus, 3 other biblical passages and share about his own Catholic religious identity.  Not bad for a socialist propaganda producer (jk).</div>
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<p><a href='http://www.democracynow.org/2009/9/24/after_20_years_of_filmmaking_on'>Here&#8217;s an interview </a>where Moore discusses his own religious convictions a bit more.  Personally I am not sure that &#8216;capitalism&#8217; in general should be the target, but the particular form we currently have.  Well I&#8217;ll talk about that more later.  Any one seen the movie?  What did you think of the article?</p>
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