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	<itunes:summary>We share a hope that there are a bunch of Christian breweries out there crafting, experimenting, imagining, and sharing a Christian faith that is life-giving.  These two friends will be talking to each other, interviewing other ecclesial brewers, and hopefully encouraging those who listen to journey towards a more beautiful life with God and the world.  

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		<title>Ministers Taking their Parts Out In Public!</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 21:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Social media has made much more of our life public to a larger public.  I know facebook, twitter and such leave a bunch of ministers stuck deciding how much of their life to share to whom, when, and where. Jeff Jarvis, a social media guru, argues in his new book Private Parts  that &#8220;the more [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="www.amazon.com/Public-Parts-Sharing-Digital-Improves/dp/1451636008/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_1"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-7580" title="Jarvis PUBLIC PARTS jacket3" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Jarvis-PUBLIC-PARTS-jacket3-197x300.jpg" alt="" width="197" height="300" /></a> Social media has made much more of our life public to a larger public.  I know facebook, twitter and such leave a bunch of ministers stuck deciding how much of their life to share to whom, when, and where. <a href="http://www.buzzmachine.com">Jeff Jarvis</a>, a social media guru, argues in his new book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/1451636008/?tag=homebrechrist-20"><em>Private Parts</em>  </a>that &#8220;the more we share, the more we benefit from what others share.&#8221;  While he doesn&#8217;t end up advocating complete and utter openness, he does argue that there is a real benefit to being open in a much more robust way than most ministers would ever consider.</p>
<p>When reading his last book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0061709697/?tag=homebrechrist-20"><em>What Would Google Do?</em></a> I decided I would intentionally be more open about my core convictions, life experiences, and challenges.  Jarvis articulated rather clearly how the growing openness of our lives via social media is in fact making us a more honest and gracious people.  Being open went against most of the advice I have received from other ministers and in theological education about one&#8217;s status as a minister and cultivating appropriate boundaries.  I am all for boundaries around integrity issues but if it leads to the creation of a minister who doesn&#8217;t have genuine convictions, political leanings, vices (like delicious cigars), attraction to all things <a href="https://twitter.com/#!/ThatKevinSmith">Kevin Smith</a> (he made <em>Dogma, </em><a href="http://www.poptheology.com/2012/01/ten-from-2011/"> the best movie of 2011 </a><em><a href="http://www.poptheology.com/2012/01/ten-from-2011/">Red State</a>, </em>&amp; the <a href="http://smodcast.com/">coolest podcast network<em>)</em></a>, s<del>uggestive</del> yard games<a href="http://youtu.be/svMyA-vxi-8"> like cornhole</a>, and o<a href="https://twitter.com/#!/trippfuller">ver tweeting</a> then I would rather pass.  I have found that for every person who is uncomfortable knowing that their minister is a real human many more people, within my congregation and outside of it, are grateful to know my ordination didn&#8217;t undo my humanity.  I am not saying Paul really meant for us to &#8220;<strong>tweet our sins one to another,</strong>&#8221; but I have also found that in sharing struggles and asking questions publicly I can be blessed in ways that would not have been possible if I kept old school &#8216;ministerial distance.&#8217;</p>
<p>Last week in the <a href="http://cst.edu/publicscholar/">&#8216;Becoming a Public Scholar</a>&#8216; class I am teaching with<a href="http://monicaacoleman.com/"> Monica Coleman</a> we watched this video where Jarvis discusses the benefits he had in sharing info about his private parts in public (yes it is what you are thinking but not for dirty reasons).  The conversation lacked consensus but it was clear the topic had some heat bound up in it.  I have no idea what the correct answer is but I have decided to err on the side of over sharing because <strong>I just feel dirty trying to keep up with multiple versions of myself for multiple audiences</strong>.  While I don&#8217;t have any final answers I will say that Jarvis has the most helpful way of framing the choices we have to make by differentiating between privacy and sharing.  He says that our <strong>&#8220;<a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/1451636008/?tag=homebrechrist-20">privacy</a></strong><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/1451636008/?tag=homebrechrist-20"> is an ethic made by the recipients of someone&#8217;s information.  <strong>Publicness</strong> is an ethic governing the choices made by the creator of one&#8217;s information..Privacy is an ethic of knowing and publicness is an ethic of sharing.</a>&#8221; Ministers are likely some of the best people to ask about an ethic of privacy since we end up being the ones people share the most difficult parts of the stories with.  So what advice would you give to those thinking about their ethic of privacy?  What &#8216;private parts&#8217; of a minister do you think should go public and which should stay off line?</p>
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<p>Check out<a href="http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/18/one-on-one-jeff-jarvis-author-of-public-parts/"> this interview with Jarvi</a>s to get a feel for the book.</p>
<p>Also <a href="http://blip.tv/transforming-theology/a-conversation-with-jeff-jarvis-3381568">check out Jeff Jarvis&#8217; visit to the &#8216;theology after google&#8217; conference </a>where he told us what google would do if they got hold of a church.</p>
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		<title>Undercover Boss, or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Listen to Karl Marx</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 18:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I don&#8217;t know about you, but when I go home, I get into politics debates with my family (what can I say? I&#8217;ve always been a radical). Recently, I&#8217;ve been listening to lectures by Richard Wolff on Marxism (yikes!) and he has given me a whole new way of understanding economics and politics. Then I watched [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/41KCCOt6UfL._SX500_.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-7550" title="41KCCOt6UfL._SX500_" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/41KCCOt6UfL._SX500_-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a>Well, I don&#8217;t know about you, but when I go home, I get into politics debates with my family (what can I say? I&#8217;ve always been a radical). Recently, I&#8217;ve been listening to lectures by <a href="http://rdwolff.com/" target="_blank">Richard Wolff</a> on Marxism (yikes!) and he has given me a whole new way of understanding economics and politics. Then I watched a show called <a href="http://www.cbs.com/shows/undercover_boss/" target="_blank">Undercover Boss</a> and I think I threw up in my mouth a little bit. The show demonstrated what&#8217;s wrong with America.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what happened in this week&#8217;s <a href="http://www.cbs.com/shows/undercover_boss/video/" target="_blank">episode</a>: The CEO of Diamond Resorts puts on a (really bad) disguise and pretends to be a new hire at various jobs in the company. He works alongside receptionists, plumbers, etc. At the end of the show, he reveals to the people he worked with that he&#8217;s the CEO and then he gives the workers that he worked alongside a big bonus, like paying off their mortgage or a new truck. Super generous of him right!? I don&#8217;t think so, and here&#8217;s how Karl Marx showed me why:</p>
<p>Ok, let&#8217;s look at the idea of work more generally first. If we look around we can see that in every society there are people that work and people that don&#8217;t work (this isn&#8217;t necessarily bad, some of the people that don&#8217;t work are children, the elderly, etc.). In order to take care of the people that don&#8217;t work, the workers have to produce more than they need for themselves. The word that Marx used for that &#8220;more&#8221; is &#8220;surplus.&#8221; <strong>Surplus is the extra stuff that the workers produce that goes to take care of needs/wants that are not their own. </strong></p>
<p>For example: let&#8217;s say I have a small shoemaking business and at home I have a baby. In order to take care of the baby (who obviously can&#8217;t work), I have to make some shoes to sell to take care of myself and I have to keep making more shoes so that I can take care of my baby. Part of the money that I make from my labor of making shoes goes to me and part of it goes to my baby. Any of the money that comes from my labor that doesn&#8217;t go to me is called surplus (obviously, the surplus that goes to my baby is good!).</p>
<p>In the shoemaker example, I make the shoes and I choose to make extra shoes (in Marxist terms: I choose to produce surplus) so that I can take care of my baby. <strong>Notice, and this is key: As self-employed person, I&#8217;m in charge of my own surplus. </strong></p>
<p>Now, let&#8217;s say that I apply for a job at McDonald&#8217;s. Like everyone else, I want to &#8220;get paid what I&#8217;m worth!&#8221; But here&#8217;s the rub: we all know that McDonald&#8217;s will only pay me $10/hour as long as I am producing more than $10/hour worth of Big Macs to sell. If McDonald&#8217;s doesn&#8217;t make more than $10 off of my labor, then I&#8217;ll get laid off. This is true in all businesses that are organized in what Marx called a capitalist business structure. In other words: <strong>in a capitalist business, the worker does not get all the surplus from their labor. </strong>Capitalism is not a way of organizing government, it&#8217;s a way of organizing labor relationships in a business.</p>
<p>So McDonald&#8217;s makes money off of my labor, i.e., they get to keep part of my surplus and I have no say in what happens to it. Marx called this &#8220;exploitation.&#8221; Now, stick with me because it sounds inflammatory, but all it means is that in capitalism, the worker does not have control of their surplus. The caplitalist business keeps the worker&#8217;s surplus. It doesn&#8217;t matter if the worker is aware of this, or if you have a really nice boss with good intentions that pays you the &#8220;market rate.&#8221; It simply means that the worker doesn&#8217;t have any say over the surplus of their labor. In US corporations, it is the board of directors who decide what happens to the surplus (keep in mind the workers have no say in electing the board!). Thus, in capitalism, there is a built-in tension between the workers and the people who get the surplus. They must continually argue about how much or how little of the worker&#8217;s surplus that the owners keep. For example, every time you ask for a raise, you&#8217;re in essence asking to keep more of the surplus from your labor.</p>
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<p>Most people recognize the difference between these two types of businesses, even if we don&#8217;t have language for it: We praise entrepreneurs. <strong>We all want to &#8220;be our own boss&#8221; (translation: we want to have a say in the surplus from our labor). </strong></p>
<p>Back to Undercover Boss: the money that the CEO gave to those workers came out of the surplus that the workers themselves <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/karl-marx-hip.jpg"><img class=" wp-image-7551 alignright" title="karl-marx-hip" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/karl-marx-hip.jpg" alt="" width="314" height="220" /></a>produced. The whole show hides the fact that the only reason that the CEO can afford to pay off the mortgage or buy a truck for a couple workers is because he makes a profit off of all the workers. It doesn&#8217;t mean that the CEO is a bad person or has bad intentions, the business is set up that way. Every receptionist at Diamond Resorts brings in more money to the company than they are paid (or else they get laid off). Of that vast pool of surplus, the boss in the TV show paid back a little bit to the few featured workers out of the surplus of all the other workers. The owner/capitalist never gives the workers more money than the workers make for him because if he did, the company would go out of business!</p>
<p>As a Christian, I think that we should organize businesses in a way that&#8217;s collaborative and doesn&#8217;t have the built-in tension between workers and owners inherent in capitalism. There are other ways of organizing labor relationships. I think it only makes sense that workers should have a say over what happens to the surplus of their labor. For example, if businesses were set up so that workers got to vote about what happened to the profits from their company, then businesses would be more efficient, we could have less government intervention, workers would have a stake in their companies, people would have a reason to work hard. A co-op is an example of this. My wife used to work for a company in which all employees are part-owners of the company. Everyone gets an even share of the profits at year-end. Thus, everyone has an incentive and a real stake in the health and success of the company.</p>
<p>In capitalist businesses, relationships in the business are built on tension. As followers of Jesus, shouldn&#8217;t we strive for relationships built on collaboration and love? Maybe good ole Karl Marx can help us be better Christians after all.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/photo1.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-7553" title="photo" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/photo1-e1326995986779-225x300.jpg" alt="" width="225" height="300" /></a>Guest Post by Deacon Stephen Keating, </strong>a recent graduate of Fuller Theological Seminary who is busy currently applying to PhD programs.  He is also wise enough to know that &#8216;Theology Nerds are Sexy.&#8217;  #TrueStory</p>
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<p>If you&#8217;re interested in learning more, head on over to Dr. Wolff&#8217;s website: <a href="http://rdwolff.com/" target="_blank">http://rdwolff.com/</a> <wbr>or check out his book on the recent US financial crisis.<br />
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		<title>Why are Young Americans feeling so positive about Socialism?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 17:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Recently the Pew Poll Research Center performed a &#8216;Political Rhetoric Test&#8217; to discover that young Americans have an increasingly positive response to &#8216;socialism&#8217; and a declining one to &#8216;capitalism.&#8217;  I am interested in why y&#8217;all may think this is the case.  It&#8217;s important to note that a political rhetoric test has nothing to do with [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/newsweek-socialists_now.jpg"><img class="alignleft  wp-image-7507" title="newsweek-socialists_now" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/newsweek-socialists_now.jpg" alt="" width="270" height="323" /></a> Recently the <a href="http://www.people-press.org/2011/12/28/little-change-in-publics-response-to-capitalism-socialism/1/">Pew Poll Research Cente</a>r performed a &#8216;Political Rhetoric Test&#8217; to discover that young Americans have an increasingly positive response to &#8216;socialism&#8217; and a declining one to &#8216;capitalism.&#8217;  I am interested in why y&#8217;all may think this is the case.  It&#8217;s important to note that a political rhetoric test has nothing to do with the<a href="https://greenmountainscribes.wordpress.com/2012/01/03/the-pew-survey-are-americans-really-viewing-socialism-more-favorably/"> respondent actually having any clue </a>what &#8216;socialism,&#8217; capitalism,&#8217; &#8216;liberal,&#8217; &#8216;conservative&#8217; or &#8216;progressive&#8217; actually mean.  It is simply a way of gauging how one responds to the word when used so I wouldn&#8217;t make near as big of a deal of this as <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alexander-eichler">Alexander Eichler </a>at the Huffington Post who titled his post<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/29/young-people-socialism_n_1175218.html"> &#8220;Young People More Likely To Favor Socialism Than Capitalism,</a>&#8221; but the stats are the stats.</p>
<blockquote><p>“The poll, published Wednesday, found that while Americans overall tend to oppose socialism by a strong margin — 60 percent say they have a negative view of it, versus just 31 percent who say they have a positive view — socialism has more fans than opponents among the 18-29 crowd. Forty-nine percent of people in that age bracket say they have a positive view of socialism; only 43 percent say they have a negative view.”</p></blockquote>
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<p>So &#8216;socialism&#8217; being popular among young Americans doesn&#8217;t mean they have any clue what it means.  Surely some do but I think it may be the fact that for <strong>most young Americans we know our lives &#8211; regardless of our hard work &#8211; will not as a whole be as good or better than our parents.</strong>  So if &#8216;socialism&#8217; is the word for a different way of organizing our economic relationships as a country why not say &#8216;positive&#8217; when asked because &#8216;capitalism&#8217; has broken the promise of the American dream.</p>
<p><img class="alignleft" src="http://www.moneytrendsresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/obama-socialist1.jpg" alt="" width="202" height="302" /> Perhaps <strong>another reason &#8216;socialism&#8217; is growing in popularity is thanks to our growing outlandish political Right</strong> in the country.  I thought of this when a high school student told me he was a socialist and I said &#8220;What? Do you have any idea what that means or would mean for your family?&#8221;  He said, &#8220;Yeah, you want college to be affordable, healthcare available to all, and to go back to Clinton era taxes.  I mean that&#8217;s why everyone is upset at Obama and he&#8217;s a socialist.&#8221;  What if our hyper-polarizing rhetoric in America and in particular the socialist name calling on the Right is actually making an audience for the very idea they abhor?</p>
<p>Two theological asides.</p>
<p>1) If you look at just the poor and non-white stats our country is significantly critical of capitalism.  Should those on the underside of our system get a hearing from the church about the effects of our system on their lives and family?</p>
<p>2) &#8216;<a href="http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/28/liberal-unpopular-but-newer-progressive-label-gets-high-marks-in-poll/">Progressive</a>&#8216; is way more popular than &#8216;Liberal.&#8217;</p>
<blockquote><p>Public reactions to the word <em>progressive</em> are far more favorable than to the word <em>liberal</em>; two-thirds have a positive reaction to the former compared with just half for the latter. There is very little difference among Democrats – who view both terms favorably.  The largest difference is among Republicans most (55%) of whom have a positive reaction to the word <em>progressive</em>, and a negative (70%) reaction to the word <em>liberal</em>. (<a href="http://www.people-press.org/2011/12/28/little-change-in-publics-response-to-capitalism-socialism/1/">link)</a></p></blockquote>
<p>Does that mean liberal Christians should use progressive?  And why didn&#8217;t they ask about <a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/tonyjones/2011/08/08/im-an-incarnational-christian/">&#8216;Incarnational Christians</a>?&#8217;</p>
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		<title>Become a Public Scholar&#8230;Take a Class with Monica Colemann &amp; I</title>
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		<title>Femininity, Image, and Identity: the role of youth pastors and movies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bo Sanders</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Julie Clawson !  I could use some help thinking through a couple of things.   For those of you who don’t know her, Julie Clawson is the author of Everyday Justice, a pastor, blogger, Emergent leader and former podcast guest. She is one of the conversation partners at the upcoming Emergent Village Theological Conversation at [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Julie Clawson !  I could use some help thinking through a couple of things. <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/EV-Theological-Conversation.jpg"><img class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-7337" title="EV Theological Conversation()" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/EV-Theological-Conversation-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #888888;"> For those of you who don’t know her, Julie Clawson is the author of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0830836284/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Everyday Justice</a>, a pastor, blogger, Emergent leader and <a title="Everyday Justice with Julie Clawson: Homebrewed Christianity 67" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2009/11/20/everyday-justice-with-julie-clawson-homebrewed-christianity-68/" target="_blank">former podcast guest</a>. She is one of the conversation partners at the upcoming <a href="http://www.processtheology.org/" target="_blank">Emergent Village Theological Conversation</a> at the end of January. (<a href="http://www.ProcessTheology.org"><span style="color: #888888;">www.ProcessTheology.org</span></a>). Her <a href="http://julieclawson.com/" target="_blank">blog</a> is in my top 10. </span></em></p>
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<p><strong>Background:</strong> I love going to the movies. As a student, I usually only go the theatre on Summer break (blockbuster action films + air-conditioning = awesome) and on Winter break (tired brain + Christmas money = fantastic).</p>
<p>Last week I saw two movies and was quite intrigued by a pattern that I noticed during the trailers: women being tough guys. The three trailers were for <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1496025/" target="_blank">Underword: Awakening</a> with Kate Beckinsdale, <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1506999/" target="_blank">Haywire </a>with Gina Carano (both action films) and <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1007029/" target="_blank">The Iron Lady</a> with Meryl Streep playing Margaret Thatcher.</p>
<p>I have read enough feminist literature to know that there is a principle (which Thatcher made famous) that “In a man’s world &#8230;” a women often has to out ‘man’ the guys in order to break into the <em>boys club</em> and be taken seriously.</p>
<p>In a system where we have been socially conditioned to see certain behaviors and attributes as ‘leadership’ or ‘strength’ &#8211; or in the church as ‘anointing’ &#8211; then women must <em>over-do</em> it in order to overcome the intrinsic biases and gain credibility in a system geared to evaluate by masculine expectations. (people point to <a href="http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&amp;rls=en&amp;q=joyce+meyer&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8" target="_blank">Joyce Meyer</a> as a Christian example)</p>
<p><span style="color: #888888;"><strong>This is a real problem.</strong></span></p>
<p>THEN I was reading <a href="http://julieclawson.com/2012/01/04/what-it-is-is-beautiful/" target="_blank">your blog this week</a> and you bring up <a href="http://julieclawson.com/2012/01/04/what-it-is-is-beautiful/" target="_blank">the Lego Ads</a> making their way around Facebook and tie it into both modesty and obesity. As a youth pastor I have read everything from <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_0_9?url=search-alias%3Daps&amp;field-keywords=reviving+ophelia&amp;sprefix=reviving+" target="_blank">Reviving Ophelia</a> to <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0307454444/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Queen Bees and Wannabes</a> ,that explains why girls treat each other the way that they do, and I recognize that there are deep underlying issues. Let’s be honest, these deep issues will not be solved by quoting some Bible verses or ‘going back to the way things were in the Bible’.</p>
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<p><strong>So here are my questions: </strong></p>
<p><strong>1.</strong> What do we do with the karate-chopping drop-kicking gun-shooting heroines of violence on the silver screen these days? On one hand, it is nice to women getting these big-deal leading roles in major films&#8230; on the other hand, are they real portrayals of women-ness or is it the bad kind of mimicry -  like ‘Girls Gone Wild’ as a picture of sexual liberation or power.</p>
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<p><strong>2</strong>. Are there any resources that you can point me to for Image and Identity? Your <a href="http://julieclawson.com/2012/01/04/what-it-is-is-beautiful/" target="_blank">blog post on the Lego</a> issue is really sticking with me.</p>
<p><strong>3</strong>. As a youth pastor, how would you suggest I navigate the (rapidly) developing sexuality <em>without</em> repression <em>while</em> steering clear of moral permissiveness?  Any thoughts?</p>
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<p>Thank you ahead of time.<br />
Any help would be much appreciated.<br />
I sure am glad that I mature sisters in faith as conversation partners.</p>
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<p>anxiously awaiting your response    -Bo</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here are the top 11 blogs of Homebrewed Christianity in 2011  : 1. Theology Nerd Book Survey  2. That’s “Too Gay” – Brian Ammons’ Banned Chapter from Baptimergent 3. Your First Steps into Biblical Universalism… 4. 31 Reasons I Left Evangelicalism and Became a Progressive But Not a Liberal by Michael Camp 5. God Takes Sides….or When [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Here are the top 11 blogs of Homebrewed Christianity in 2011 <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/HBC.jpeg"><img class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-7227" title="HBC" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/HBC-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a> :</strong></p>
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1. <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/05/19/theology-nerd-book-survey/" target="_blank">Theology Nerd Book Survey </a></p>
<p>2. <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/03/02/thats-too-gay-brian-ammons-banned-chapter-from-baptimergent/" target="_blank">That’s “Too Gay” – Brian Ammons’</a> Banned Chapter from Baptimergent</p>
<p>3. <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/03/21/your-first-steps-into-biblical-universalism/" target="_blank">Your First Steps into Biblical Universalism</a>…</p>
<p>4. <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/12/04/31-reasons-i-left-evangelicalism-and-became-a-progressive-but-not-a-liberal/" target="_blank">31 Reasons I Left Evangelicalism and Became a Progressive But Not a Liberal</a> by Michael Camp</p>
<p>5. <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/07/14/god-takes-sides-or-when-karl-barth-was-right/" target="_blank">God Takes Sides….or When Karl Barth Was Right</a></p>
<p>6. <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2009/07/06/defining-the-secular-charles-taylor-pt-3/" target="_blank">Defining the Secular: Charles Taylor (pt. 3)</a> by Deacon Hall</p>
<p>7. <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/03/16/rob-bell-wins/" target="_blank">Rob Bell Wins </a></p>
<p>8. <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2010/10/16/the-classic-footprints-in-the-sand-poem-revisited/" target="_blank">The classic ‘Footprints in the Sand’ poem revisited</a></p>
<p>9. <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/02/28/are-you-a-bellian-or-piperian/" target="_blank">Are you a Bellian or Piperian?</a></p>
<p>10.<a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/07/14/a-big-difference-between-christianity-and-islam/" target="_blank"> a big difference between Christianity and Islam </a></p>
<p>11. <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/08/14/goosing-emergents-into-the-mainline/" target="_blank">Goosing Emergents into the Mainline</a></p>
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<p>Thank you all for your amazing participation and feedback &#8211; that was a wonderful year of conversation and theological brewing!</p>
<p><em>Let us know if you had a favorite that didn&#8217;t make the list.</em></p>
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<p>From Chad, Tripp, and Bo &#8211; thanks for a great year, Brew On!  and don&#8217;t forget to share the brew.</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say what you want about him (and many have said plenty) but the passing of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_tc_2_0?rh=i%3Astripbooks%2Ck%3AChristopher+Hitchens&amp;keywords=Christopher+Hitchens&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1324062745&amp;sr=1-2-ent&amp;field-contributor_id=B000APSKR0" target="_blank">Christopher Hitchens </a>is a sad thing. He was perhaps the most mean-spirited of the <em>self-titled</em> 4 Horsemen of the New Atheists &#8211; the others being <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_tc_2_0?rh=i%3Astripbooks%2Ck%3ARichard+Dawkins&amp;keywords=Richard+Dawkins&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1324062684&amp;sr=1-2-ent&amp;field-contributor_id=B000AQ3RBI" target="_blank">Richard Dawkins</a>, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_tc_2_0?rh=i%3Astripbooks%2Ck%3ASam+Harris&amp;keywords=Sam+Harris&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1324062645&amp;sr=8-2-ent&amp;field-contributor_id=B001H6UFQ0" target="_blank">Sam Harris</a>, and <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_tc_2_0?rh=i%3Astripbooks%2Ck%3ARichard+Dawkins&amp;keywords=Richard+Dawkins&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1324062684&amp;sr=1-2-ent&amp;field-contributor_id=B000AQ3RBI#/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&amp;field-keywords=daniel+dennett&amp;rh=n%3A283155%2Ck%3Adaniel+dennett" target="_blank">Daniel Dennett </a>- but he was effective.</p>
<p>I understand people&#8217;s reaction to his abrasive, condescending, and bombastic style. His attacks on religion were vicious behind his stunning wit and comprehensive recall of material.</p>
<p>Those who were big critics of his rightly pointed out that he was <em>in some sense</em> just a reverse fundamentalist. He had conceded that the God of Jerry Falwell, the suicide bombers, and Israeli occupation was the God up for debate and he simply didn&#8217;t believe in that God.</p>
<p><strong>Here is the thing: I don&#8217;t believe in <em>that</em> god either! <span style="color: #808000;">Hitchens helped me by rabidly critiquing that false god of Empire and cutting open the giant bloated carcass of Christendom with razor-sharp clarity. </span></strong></p>
<p>This morning <a href="https://twitter.com/#!/julieclawson" target="_blank">Julie Clawson</a> tweeted</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;To everyone posting &#8220;Hitchens no longer exists &#8211; God&#8221;, 1- I doubt that&#8217;s actually your theology. 2- It&#8217;s not witty or cute, just jerky&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>and she is right.  How could any believer think that he no longer exists? That is just a stupid thing to say! Of course Hitchens still exists &#8211; he just doesn&#8217;t have a body anymore. <em>What are we physicalists now?  </em>Its that kind of unthinking that he was pointing out.</p>
<p>The real question is where does he exist now?  The fundamentalist he hated so much would say that he went straight to hell. That of course is ridiculous and completely not Biblical. In that framework there is a holding area (like Abraham&#8217;s Bosom) and then the Great White Throne Judgement.</p>
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<p>The <em>&#8216;all we are is dust in the wind</em>&#8216; crowd thinks that this is the end of the story and the he lives on in legacy and memories.</p>
<p>The <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/006204964X/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank"><strong>Love Wins</strong> </a>crowd thinks that he is with God and they are having a little talk about<em> ultimate reality </em>and some other fun stuff. I like the imagery of reconciling souls.</p>
<p>That will all take care of itself but one thing I am sure of is that Hitchens helped me think through some crazy crap I had inherited and some messed up ways of thinking that had been passed down to me. He unintentionally challenged me to <em>streamline</em> my faith by stripping away gobs of baggage that has gotten attached to the simple Galilean vision.</p>
<p>For that, I am thankful for Hitchens. <strong><span style="color: #808000;">I obvious don&#8217;t believe what he believed. But his critique of the established order with its crumbling foundation and rotting rafters was something that propelled me to re-think my approach to some pretty central issues.</span></strong></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have held off as long as I could but I think we better talk about this now before it goes any further. Tim Tebow is a phenomenon is the media these days. His Denver Broncos football team is on a 6 game winning streak and he is 7-1 as their starting Quaterback. Despite his [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have held off as long as I could but I think we better talk about this now before it goes any further.</p>
<p>Tim Tebow is a phenomenon is the media these days. His Denver Broncos football team is on a 6 game winning streak and he is 7-1 as their starting Quaterback. Despite his apparent limitations (skills) he has orchestrated a series of amazing comebacks during the winning streak.  That is a big deal! Any fan would love to have their team on this kind of a roller coaster &#8211; come from behind &#8211; frenzy.</p>
<p><strong>That, however, is not what makes this news.</strong></p>
<p>This past week the Broncos <a href="http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8250a2fa/article/before-beating-bears-tebow-told-woodyard-god-has-spoken?module=HP11_headline_stack" target="_blank">beat my beloved Chicago Bears</a> in overtime after a <em>miraculous</em> set of circumstances turned the game around in the 4th quarter. The Tebow&#8217;s teammate picks up the story there: <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/tebow1.jpg"><img class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-7302" title="tebow1" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/tebow1-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Tebow came to me and said, &#8216;Don&#8217;t worry about a thing,&#8217; because God has spoken to him,&#8221; <a id="yui_3_3_0_1_13238882628143147" href="http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_19527521?obref=obnetwork#ixzz1gWG87pi5" target="new">Woodyard told The Denver Post</a> this week.</p>
<p>It was Woodyard who then stripped Bears running back Marion Barber to hand the football &#8212; and the game &#8212; back to Denver.</p>
<p>For Tebow, just another day at the office.</p>
<p>&#8220;I believe in a big God and special things can happen,&#8221; he said, after he erased a 10-0 deficit against Chicago in the final 2:08 of regulation. &#8220;It&#8217;s not necessarily prophesying, but sometimes you can feel God has a big plan.&#8221;</p>
<p>Woodyard, for one, has no lingering doubts: &#8220;For all the Tebow haters: You better start believing.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I want to be clear this before I say anything else: <strong>I am not hating Tebow. In fact, I like him.</strong> I like how he uses his summers to serve needy people in other countries. I like that he works so hard. I like that he is unorthodox in his throwing motion and scrabbling technique. I like that he is so sincere and transparent about his faith.</p>
<p>Some people get upset that he is always <em>cramming his faith in their face. </em>That is not what concerns me. It is his <em><strong>brand of faith</strong></em> that concerns me.</p>
<p>I have been very forthright that <strong><span style="color: #ff6600;">A)</span></strong> this is the camp of evangelical-charismatic zeal that I was raised in and emerged from <span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong>B)</strong></span> that the epistemology behind &#8216;hearing from God&#8217; &#8230; and the interventionist assumptions behind a &#8216;super&#8217; natural worldview are antiquated relics of a pre-modern understanding and are untenable in the 21st century. <span style="color: #808080;">If you want a more nuanced explanation, listen to &#8220;Pentecost for Progressives&#8221; <a title="Seeing Through Heaven’s Eyes:  Leif Hetland with Mike Morrell" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/11/11/seeing-through-heavens-eyes-leif-hetland-with-mike-morrell/" target="_blank">[here] </a>- starting in  minute 55 OR read the summary<a title="Pentecostals &amp; Progressives" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/11/11/pentecostals-progressives/" target="_blank"> [here]. </a> </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #808080;"><span style="color: #000000;">This <em><strong>is</strong></em> the season of Advent and we <em><strong>do</strong></em> tell the story of God speaking to Mary. That is not what I am contesting. </span></span></p>
<p><em>I try to never-ever play this next card&#8230; but the cards that I have been dealt has forced my hand:</em></p>
<blockquote><p>Are you under the impression that God cares who wins a football game and intervenes to bring it about but doesn&#8217;t care enough about the thousands of children who are starving to do something about it?</p>
<p>Are you telling me that god knows but doesn&#8217;t care, or that God cares but doesn&#8217;t know, or that god could do something but won&#8217;t or that god would do something but can&#8217;t?</p></blockquote>
<p>Look, I am not an either-or guy. I hate binaries, dualisms, and <em>us vs. them</em> mentalities. But when someone says that this is how God is&#8230; sometimes it forces you to say that <strong>I believe this God to be a false creation of human imagination &#8211; nothing more than an athropomophic projection.  </strong></p>
<p>______</p>
<p>Three things for clarification:</p>
<ol>
<li>I could be wrong. He keeps winning and people say &#8216;If Joel Osteen wasn&#8217;t doing something right, he wouldn&#8217;t have 37,000 people who go to his church.&#8221;  In America, success = correct.</li>
<li>The Calvinists could be right. God chooses whom &#8216;He&#8217; wants to. I don&#8217;t want to be one of those people who say &#8220;If God is not the way I believe they-she-he  is, the I am not going to worship them-her-him.&#8221; I will worship God no matter what way God turns out to be&#8230; but I happen to really like the Jesus of the 4 canonical gospels&#8230; just sayin&#8217;.</li>
<li>Tim Tebow himself has hinted in the past that he does not believe in an interventionist god. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7QlCVnhXKU" target="_blank">Bob Costas alluded to this to</a> in his amazing speech.  It&#8217;s not Tebow that concern me &#8211; its Tebow&#8217;s fans.</li>
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		<title>Blue Like Jazz the Movie! A Conversation with Steve Taylor &amp; friends</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 10:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[  We sat down with director (and music legend) Steve Taylor for a roundtable about his newest project Blue Like Jazz the movie.  Joining us is one of the script&#8217;s writers Jordan Green of the Burnside Writers, the Whiskey Preacher, Rev. Amy Piatt, &#38; her preacher&#8217;s spouse Christian.  The conversation took place at Soularize just [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft" src="http://www.bluelikejazzthemovie.com/storage/S_Taylor_D4_3981N_JPA%20copy.jpeg" alt="" width="188" height="188" />  We sat down with director (and <a href="http://youtu.be/nxETLTcv5BM">music legend</a>)<a href="http://www.bluelikejazzthemovie.com/about-us/"> Steve Taylor</a> for a roundtable about his newest project<em><a href="http://www.bluelikejazzthemovie.com/"> Blue Like Jazz</a></em> the movie.  Joining us is one of the script&#8217;s writers J<a href="http://burnsidewriters.com/">ordan Green of the Burnside Writers</a>, the <a href="http://whiskeypreacher.com/">Whiskey Preacher</a>, R<a href="http://www.milagrocc.org/sermons-and-stories/">ev. Amy Piatt,</a> &amp; her <a href="http://christianpiatt.com/christians-bio/">preacher&#8217;s spouse Christia</a>n.  The conversation took place at Soularize just following a screening of the movie.  As you will hear, this collection of podcasters were surprised by the movie!  We hope this gets you excited about the movie and prepped to sound like the behind the scenes nerd when thi<a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003IGDD0C/?tag=homebrechrist-20">s legend of a book</a> hits the big screen.  <a href="http://www.bluelikejazzthemovie.com/">Check out the movie preview here.</a></p>
<p>FYI&#8230;Tripp was giggling with glee that Steve Taylor was in the room.  I am pretty sure he just stared at him for an hour and a half, hoping he could start singing <a href="http://youtu.be/S1-uIQqY95c">Meltdown At Madame Tussade&#8217;</a>s.</p>
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		<itunes:summary>  We sat down with director (and music legend) Steve Taylor for a roundtable about his newest project Blue Like Jazz the movie.  Joining us is one of the script&#8217;s writers Jordan Green of the Burnside Writers, the Whiskey Preacher, Rev. Amy Piatt, &#38; her preacher&#8217;s spouse Christian.  The conversation took place at Soularize just following a screening of the movie.  As you will hear, this collection of podcasters were surprised by the movie!  We hope this gets you excited about the movie and prepped to sound like the behind the scenes nerd when this legend of a book hits the big screen.  Check out the movie preview here.
FYI&#8230;Tripp was giggling with glee that Steve Taylor was in the room.  I am pretty sure he just stared at him for an hour and a half, hoping he could start singing Meltdown At Madame Tussade&#8217;s.
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 20:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bo Sanders</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[in light of the current protests.   A few weeks ago Joerg Rieger cautioned about a type of Christianity that was a cheerleader for the system, that reinforced the status quo, and participated in society in way that strengthened Empire. I have said before I come from a background where this type of thinking is not [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: right;"><em>in light of the current protests. </em></p>
<p> A few weeks ago <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Joerg-Rieger/e/B001HN375Y/ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1?qid=1317846402&amp;sr=8-1-fkmr0" target="_blank">Joerg Rieger</a> cautioned about a type of Christianity that was a cheerleader for the system, that reinforced the status quo, and participated in society in way that strengthened Empire.</p>
<p>I have said before I come from a background where this type of thinking is not just disorienting but alienating. The focus is on individuals &#8211; with little mention of anything systemic. The goal is the salvation of souls for the afterlife &#8211; with no address of collective issues.</p>
<p>It was reading <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&amp;field-keywords=Walter+WInk&amp;x=0&amp;y=0" target="_blank">Walter Wink  “the Powers the Be”</a> that radically impacted the way I could see this. I have since encountered other writings and teachers who have opened the subject even further.</p>
<p>Now, it is odd to look at the central figure of our faith and ask<em> how did Jesus ever get portrayed as a guy who basically told people to be nice and obey the rules</em>? <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&amp;field-keywords=cornel+west&amp;x=0&amp;y=0" target="_blank">Cornell West</a> would talk about him be sanitized, deodorized, and neutralized. Someone else might call this being a chaplain to the empire.</p>
<p>Tripp and I have a theme that shows up in our personal conversations on a fairly regular basis. It revolves around the idea that <strong>variable X or Y may be changed or tweaked, but the outcome of the equation is never in doubt.</strong> A specific issue may be protested, but the machine itself in never in danger. Certain areas can be challenged or  even overhauled, but the system itself is never in jeopardy.</p>
<p>This is not limited to Empire. It goes beyond hegemony. It is not limited to Capitalism.</p>
<p>The powers that be, or the system, or the machine (<em>as you prefer</em>) is an omnibus. It can absorb &#8211; incorporate &#8211; and co-op any variation, deviation, or even challenge &#8230; and<strong> in the end the structure is nearly unchanged. The system is never in danger. The machine doesn’t even slow down. The Powers are never in jeopardy.</strong> It eats new ideas with barely a burp &#8211; let alone beginning to buckle.</p>
<p><em> We could talk about an anarchist musical band that signs a record contract, or a retail store that sells Buddhist trinkets from ‘the far east’, or a seminar on Native American spirituality that meets in a university classroom&#8230; but I don’t want to get sidelined.  </em></p>
<p>Benjamin Barber in his book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0345383044/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Jihad vs. McWorld </a>talks about the market in such a way that sketched a picture (for me) of a machine that needs to be fueled by new authentic-indigenous expressions, otherwise it runs dry and burns out on it’s own the boredom of its generic repetitions and knock-offs.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>“McWorld cannot then do without Jihad: it needs cultural parochialism to feed its endless appetites. Yet neither can Jihad do without that world: for where would culture be without a commercial producers who market it and the information and communication systems that make it known?”  </em></p></blockquote>
<p>We have talked with <a title="Economics, Theology, and Discipleship: Joerg Rieger on Homebrewed Christianity 116" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/09/06/economics-theology-and-discipleship-joerg-rieger-on-homebrewed-christianity-116/" target="_blank">Joerge Rieger</a> (ep. 116) about a theological look at global economics. We have talked with <a title="9/11 Special: Graham E. Fuller and a world without Islam" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/09/09/911-special-graham-e-fuller-and-a-world-without-islam/" target="_blank">Graham E. Fuller</a> (ep. 117) about a historical perspective on East-West relations.</p>
<p>I am curious about the theological address of some revolutionary response to the machine. We talk about <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&amp;field-keywords=Jesus+and+empire&amp;x=0&amp;y=0" target="_blank">Jesus and Empire</a>. We talk about the <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/1842272616/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Constantinian compromise</a>. We have the <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_tc_2_0?rh=i%3Astripbooks%2Ck%3AStanley+Hauerwas&amp;keywords=Stanley+Hauerwas&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1317847330&amp;sr=8-2-ent&amp;field-contributor_id=B000APV13K" target="_blank">Hauerwasian</a> response that gets interpreted as <em>withdrawal &amp; testimony</em>. Cornell West wants us to be <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0664223435/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Prophetic</a>.</p>
<p>What is the theological answer to the question that the machine is asking? Certainly, like Tripp is fond of saying, <strong>we have to be about more than a slightly kinder gentler empire.</strong> Jesus challenged the status quo of his day &#8211; economic, militaristic, racial, gender, and religious. How does a follower of Jesus address a system of oppression, domination, invasion and economic disparity? <em> Thoughts?</em></p>
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		<title>TNT : week of September 15</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 22:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bo Sanders</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This Theology Nerd Throwdown is sponsored by Claremont School of Theology. Tripp and Bo take on three topics in the news from a progressive Christian perspective with an eye toward the theological. 1. Did 9/11 really change us? You can read the initial blog here. 2. The crows at the Republican Presidential debates are telling [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Theology Nerd Throwdown is sponsored by <a href="http://www.cst.edu/" target="_blank">Claremont School of Theology</a>.</p>
<p>Tripp and Bo take on three topics in the news from a progressive Christian perspective with an eye toward the theological.</p>
<p>1. Did 9/11 really change us? <a title="Did 9/11 really change us?" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/09/12/did-911-really-change-us/" target="_blank">You can read the initial blog here.<br />
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<p>2. The crows at the Republican Presidential debates are telling us something. We think that <em>something</em> is bad.</p>
<p>3. <a href="http://claremontlincoln.org/about/a-new-university/a-model-for-solutions/" target="_blank">Claremont Lincoln University</a> had it&#8217;s convocation ceremony this week. That seemed significant in light of story 1 and 2 above.</p>
<p>In this hour-long show these two theology nerds reference several books &#8211; including but not limited to :</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0385487525/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">The Powers the Be</a> by Walter Wink</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0061920622/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank"> Simply Christian</a> by N.T. Wright</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/066424842X/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Theology and the Kingdom </a>by Wolfhart Pannenberg</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0800664590/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">No Rising Tide </a>by Joerge Rieger</p>
<p><em>The views expressed are not necessarily those of Claremont School of Theology or Claremont Lincoln University. </em></p>
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		<itunes:subtitle>This Theology Nerd Throwdown is sponsored by Claremont School of Theology.
Tripp and Bo take on three topics in the news from a progressive Christian perspective with an eye toward the theological.
1. Did 9/11 really change us? You can read the init[...]</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>This Theology Nerd Throwdown is sponsored by Claremont School of Theology.
Tripp and Bo take on three topics in the news from a progressive Christian perspective with an eye toward the theological.
1. Did 9/11 really change us? You can read the initial blog here.

2. The crows at the Republican Presidential debates are telling us something. We think that something is bad.
3. Claremont Lincoln University had it&#8217;s convocation ceremony this week. That seemed significant in light of story 1 and 2 above.
In this hour-long show these two theology nerds reference several books &#8211; including but not limited to :
The Powers the Be by Walter Wink
 Simply Christian by N.T. Wright
Theology and the Kingdom by Wolfhart Pannenberg
No Rising Tide by Joerge Rieger
The views expressed are not necessarily those of Claremont School of Theology or Claremont Lincoln University. 
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		<title>Did 9/11 really change us?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 03:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bo Sanders</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As we all know,this past weekend was a big one. I watched with much interest as the commemorations and memorials passed. My senses were especially heightened today due to five things: We put our the interview with Graham E. Fuller this past Friday. I heard an interview and read an article with a New York [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As we all know,this past weekend was a big one. I watched with much interest as the commemorations and memorials passed. My senses were especially heightened today due to five things:</p>
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<li>We put our the<a title="9/11 Special: Graham E. Fuller and a world without Islam" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/09/09/911-special-graham-e-fuller-and-a-world-without-islam/"> interview with Graham E. Fuller </a>this past Friday.</li>
<li>I heard an interview and read an article with a New York author who was asking a tough a question. “Did 9/11 really change us all that much?”</li>
<li>Tony Jones wrote <a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/tonyjones/2011/09/12/why-i-avoided-all-911-coverage-yesterday/#more-3731" target="_blank">a blog </a>that pointed out the danger of ‘memorials’ for history and our collective memory .</li>
<li>The <a href="http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/09/gop-debate-audience-cheers-perrys-execution-record/" target="_blank">Republican Presidential Debates</a>.</li>
<li>Getting ready to start a new weekly radio show for <a href="http://www.cst.edu/" target="_blank">Claremont School of Theology</a> where this will be one of our first  questions.</li>
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<p>I lived in New York state when the attacks happened. I drove home from the conference I was at to be with my congregation. That weekend I preached to the fullest auditorium I have ever seen and I preached the most prophetic message I have ever attempted. The following week I lost some of my congregants and that next weekend preached to a half-full auditorium.</p>
<p>As a student in religion at a <a href="http://claremontlincoln.org/about/a-new-university/a-model-for-solutions/" target="_blank">University</a> that is partnering with an<a href="http://icsconline.org/" target="_blank"> Islamic</a> and a <a href="http://ajrca.org/" target="_blank">Jewish center</a> for study, the events of ten years ago are continuously on my mind. As a friend and brother to people who take seriously the critiques of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0618918248/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Richard Dawkins</a>, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003VWC45I/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Christopher Hitchens</a>, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0393327655/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Sam Harris </a>and <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0143038338/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Daniel Dennett</a> &#8230; I am confronted daily by the effects of bad religion on our world.</p>
<p><strong> SO  I wanted to throw out some questions and get some feedback. </strong>Here are my questions:</p>
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<li>As a country, are we less combative than we were before 9/11? <em>Because we see the effects of violence?</em></li>
<li>Are our politics less contentious? <em>Has it brought more unity?</em></li>
<li>Are we less Imperialistic? <em>Making fewer enemies and giving less fuel to the terrorists?</em></li>
<li>Are we less consumeristic? <em>Now that we see what really matters?</em></li>
<li>Do we have a deeper appreciation for people of other faiths? <em>we have read their scriptures and visited their gatherings because we no longer want to alienated from the &#8216;other&#8217;? </em></li>
<li>Do we know more about other faith traditions?</li>
<li>For those who believe that this is a ‘Christian Nation’, are we more sincere about following the way of Jesus? <em>Those who proclaim the name of Christ have revisited and thus radically altered their previous posture? </em></li>
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<p>It seems to me that the answer to every one of these questions &#8211; however broad they may be &#8211; is overwhelming ‘no’. We have not changed. We are not a different country. We have not gone a different way. I am left to wonder if 9/11 changed us at all. One could make the case the we have continued of the same trajectory of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0345407512/?tag=homebrechrist-20" target="_blank">Argument Culture</a> politics, militaristic foreign policy, consumeristic capitalism, overspending both personally and in government, contentious religion <a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/9-111.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-6825" title="9-11" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/9-111-300x276.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="276" /></a>and combative media coverage. I am not sure that much has changed at all since September 10, 2001.</p>
<p><strong>My question in preparation for the radio conversation is twofold:</strong></p>
<p>Am I wrong? Is there something I am not seeing?</p>
<p>Am I asking the right questions? If not, what are better questions?</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Back Ground : Brandon Morgan attended the Wild Goose Festival and came away with some concerns/critiques that were posted at Roger Olson’s website and responded to by Tony Jones with some great new suggestions . Tripp and I had some fun recording a Theology Nerd Throw-down (TNT) last week where we discussed Tony’s suggestions for replacing [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Back Ground</strong> : <em>Brandon Morgan attended the Wild Goose Festival and came away with some concerns/critiques that were posted at <a href="http://www.patheos.com/community/rogereolson/2011/08/08/brandon-morgans-response/#comments" target="_blank">Roger Olson’s website</a> and responded to by <a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/tonyjones/2011/08/01/the-emergent-church-everyones-favorite-whipping-boy/" target="_blank">Tony Jone</a>s with some great <a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/tonyjones/2011/08/12/i-am-an-incarnational-christian-the-theology/" target="_blank">new suggestions</a> .</em></p>
<p><em>Tripp and I had some fun recording a <a title="Tony Jones’ new types of Christians" href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2011/08/13/tony-jones%e2%80%99-new-types-of-christians/" target="_blank">Theology Nerd Throw-down (TNT) </a>last week where we discussed <a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/tonyjones/2011/08/03/progressive-is-the-wrong-word/" target="_blank">Tony’s suggestions </a>for replacing Emergent-Liberal-Progressive as unhelpful and antiquated terms that are unclear and carry too much baggage.</em></p>
<p><em>But none of that responded to Brandon’s actual concerns and questions. I appreciate and respect Brandon’s position and involvement  &#8211; SO since we are on the same team &#8211; I wanted to honor his questions with an honest attempt to dialogue about it.</em></p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Question 1: Why haven&#8217;t Emergent folks joined the mainline denominations?</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>Response: The simple answer is &#8211; because they are doing two different things. People emerge out of something-somewhere. Those backgrounds are varied and diverse, but primarily they emerge into a more open, less institutional, more casual, less hierarchical expression. It doesn&#8217;t have to be a full fledged movement (<em><a href="http://www.patheos.com/community/rogereolson/2011/08/11/is-the-emergingemergent-church-movement-ecm-a-real-movement/" target="_blank">sorry Dr. Olson</a></em>) for there to be both an appeal and an organizational framework. It is providing a communal and spiritual environment that nurtures and facilitates a less defined- more adaptable entity (expression) in the post-colonial, post-christendom ecosystem.</p>
<p>To me, the better question is “<span style="color: #ff6600;"><em><strong>Why </strong></em><strong>WOULD</strong><em><strong> emergent folks join mainline denominations?</strong></em></span>”   They are going two different directions. I mean, except for some behaviors and convictions (ordaining women, justice work, etc.) the mainline is a historical-institutional behemoth that one would only want to take on if there was a significant impetuous.<span style="color: #808000;"><strong> Otherwise the decentralized- organic-contextual capacity of emergence spirituality and practice are much more attractive than the albs &amp; stoles, acolytes and adjudicatories, the liturgy and lectionary of the Mainline.</strong></span></p>
<p><strong><em>Why would an emergent type volunteer to take on all of that plus the Bishoprics and Books of common practice?</em></strong></p>
<p>I want to ask you: what are you picturing when you say something like this?    [<em>it is an honest question since I do not know you and do not know what you are picturing when you say 'mainline' and what exactly it is that you think would appeal to an emergent type?</em>]</p>
<p>I think the reason that your post has gotten the response that it has and your questions have not been answered is that you must be picturing something when you ask the question that seem outlandish to those of us who are not in your head. Have you had a different experience of the mainline that we have? What aspect of mainline did you think WOULD appeal to emergent types?</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Question 2: Why have the negatives of evangelicalism been so easy to describe</strong> <strong>and virulently rebuke, while the negatives of the mainline denominations have barely shown up in Emergent concerns?</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>Response: I think this comes down to two quick thoughts:</p>
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<li>most emergents have either emerged <strong><em>from</em></strong> an evangelical background or <em><strong>against</strong></em> an evangelical background. It is the reality of our era. TV preachers, mega churches, Christian bookstore chains and <em>the Religious Right</em> have made it so.</li>
<li>The mainline has it’s endowed seminaries and publishing houses to document it’s slow decline. It is neither the primary drive nor the main attraction for most theologically charged conversations.</li>
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<blockquote><p><strong>Question 3:  Another way to ask this question would be: Why hasn&#8217;t the Emergent critique of evangelicalism&#8217;s involvement</strong> with the American nation-state and it&#8217;s tendency toward creating theologically exclusive boundaries not found root in a critique of mainline denominations, whose political interests also conflate the church with nation-state interests?</p></blockquote>
<p>Response: I hate to oversimplify it, but it seems really clear. If mainliners are theologically over-aware (maybe even hyper-aware in some cases) then their involvement in the political system may tend toward liberation, justice, and equality. Whereas those movements who are newly energized toward “Theo” heavy themes may tend toward conserving romantic ideals of past formulations without consideration (or awareness) or their capacity and tendency toward institutional hegemony.</p>
<p><em>So those are my genuine, non-cheeky, responses to your honest questions. I would love to hear your and other people&#8217;s thoughts in order to dialogue about this. </em></p>
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		<dc:creator>Deacon Hall</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The New York Times just published a storyabout a cadre of Bishops  in Alabama suing the state over the passage of a new and tough immigration law. They (rightly) claim that this law is so ambiguously written that it could disallow them the right to act toward immigrants as they claim Christians are commanded: as [...]]]></description>
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<p>The <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/14/us/14immig.html?ref=us&amp;gwh=A3E306A14CC505310C2191632079FFAD" target="_blank">New York Times just published a story</a>about a cadre of Bishops  in Alabama suing the state over the passage of a new and tough immigration law. They (rightly) claim that this law is so ambiguously written that it could disallow them the right to act toward immigrants as they claim Christians are commanded: as good Samaritans. I don’t pretend to know what the right answer for immigration reform is in the US; I tend to think that the way that each side often looks at the current issue is, on the right, xenophobic and, on the left, unsustainable. However, I’m not trying to conjure another simplistic debate one way or the other in this post. (I’m implicating my above views in this st</p>
<p>atement.) <strong>What I would like to say is that I’m in <em>complete</em> solidarity with my own Episcopal Church, the Methodist Church, and the Roman Catholic Church of Alabama on this matter and that they and their suit will be in my prayers.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Perhaps more importantly from a theological-political level, however, the issue raises for me the importance of the separation of Church and State in the U.S. and the tension that exists between the ultimate allegences of each institution.</strong> On the one hand, the Church stands always and forever for a Kingdom that we cannot bring but must do our best to imitate in the here and now; they are right to see this as a “Kingdom issue,” for lack of a better term. In this Kingdom, there is neither Jew or Greek, man or woman. All tribalisms die. On the other hand, the State necessarily stands for the collective interests of its people, protecting them and their material and legal well-being first. (I’m not claiming that’s what the State of Alabama is actually doing, by the way; <a href="http://www.economist.com/blogs/freeexchange/2011/05/immigration" target="_blank">I’d probably believe just the opposite</a>. I won’t doubt that the State is <em>trying</em> to protect its citizens, however.) This means the state <em>is</em> a tribal formation grounded in the idea of common-law and heritage.</p>
<p>However these tensions between Church and State <em>ought </em>to play themselves out within individuals and institutions, the beauty of this particular issue is how it exemplifies the impossibility of the situation: that <strong>these two institutions <em>do</em> and <em>will</em> butt heads. If they don’t, one of the two institutions is doing something wrong!</strong></p>
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		<title>“Burn after Reading”—Some Thoughts on the Coens’ Madness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deacon Hall</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I recently watched the Coen Brother’s movie, “Burn after Reading” and was surprised to find out just how funny and quirky people thought this movie was. I did not. I got so depressed after watching the movie that I had to immediately walk to the nearest ice-cream parlor with my wife and buy us a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/new-burn-after-reading-poster.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-6595" title="new-burn-after-reading-poster" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/new-burn-after-reading-poster-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a>I recently watched the Coen Brother’s movie, “Burn after Reading” and was surprised to find out just how funny and quirky people thought this movie was. I did not. I got so depressed after watching the movie that I had to immediately walk to the nearest ice-cream parlor with my wife and buy us a couple scoops. <strong>I swore at the time, in fact, that it was the worst movie I’d ever seen. I’m not so sure about that judgment any longer.</strong> Here’s why.</p>
<p><strong>(Semi-spoiler alert.)</strong> The movie started out as a series of semi-separate, boring stories that, out of nowhere, converge into a chaotic mess of (quirky) murder and mayhem. Amidst this mayhem, literally no one is in control and no one can take control. The CIA operatives in the movie don’t even know what to take from the chaos. <strong>Accordingly, a bunch of people die and no one has much to say about why.</strong></p>
<p><strong>I soon realized, however, that the reason the movie depressed me so much was because this “phenomenon” is <em>far </em>closer to real life and how we experience life than it’s often comfortable to admit.</strong> Not that people are constantly dying violent deaths in my world, but there are certainly places where this threat is very real even. More importantly, the movie drew out through its somewhat lighthearted approach to this chaos the blithely uncaring nature and meaninglessness of life itself when viewed in this manner. <strong>The Coen Brothers, in other words, would really make great French existentialists!</strong></p>
<p>Having given the movie a couple days to sink in, what it has solidified in my mind is something very important: that, <strong>whether they mean to be or not, the Coen Brothers are two of the greatest modern interpreters of sin that I can think of</strong>. The reason I say this is because they constantly show, it seems, in each movie that they make that the conditions of the world are such that what I want to call “sin” <em>is inevitable</em>, built into our being, and lightheartedly uncaring about our involvement with it. <strong>Sin, in this regard, is not found in individual acts—though it is there, too—but in the very conditions of the world that allow us to act or force us to act. We can’t get out of it, around it, or through it because the conditions of the world are fundamentally skewed.</strong>  Of course, I have no clue whether they would or could express the insight as such (sin is, after all, an inherently religious concept), but certainly this is the interpretive possibility I take from it.</p>
<p><strong>If I left the story here, I would need to go get some more ice-cream.</strong> However, I still think that Luther was correct when he posited that the recognition of sin also allows for the recognition of the Gospel: that, actually, things need not be how they currently are—no matter how strong the grips of sin in the world currently seem—and that, though we are powerless against the corrupting conditions of sin, God is not and does not stand idly by allowing sin a full rule of the world. God, rather, plunges into sin, taking up the chaos and nothingness of death into God’s self on the cross. So there’s that, too.</p>
<p>The main point, however, is that I still think “Burn after Reading” is one of the least <em>enjoyable</em> films I’ve ever seen. Then again, most philosophy and theology books are completely un-enjoyable, too, but I’ve learned to enjoy the fruits that come from reflecting on them. So it is with “Burn after Reading.” <strong>I never want to step near the film again, but the Coen Brothers, in this movie, pushed me into a series of thoughts that, while difficult, have allowed me to re-appropriate myself and my world in what I believe is a more fruitful mann</strong></p>
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		<title>Texas and Evolution: Can We Move on Now?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deacon Hall</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ I should start this post with a disclaimer: I believe that Texas is one of the three craziest states in the union, right up there with Alaska and California! Texas, however, is currently taking the first place prize (for the week, anyways) in its re-instantiation of debates concerning the teaching of evolution in public schools. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/evolution.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-6574" title="evolution" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/evolution-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a> I should start this post with a disclaimer: I believe that Texas is one of the three craziest states in the union, right up there with Alaska and California! Texas, however, is currently taking the first place prize (for the week, anyways) in its re-instantiation of debates concerning the teaching of evolution in public schools. That is, <strong><a href="http://www.dallasobserver.com/2011-07-21/news/viva-la-evolution/">Texas’ Board of Education is again taking up the question of whether evolutionary thought is allowed exclusive domain in public schools as a theory of how life emerges</a> </strong>and whether there can be intellectual debate about evolutions’ factuality in a formal, statewide education.</p>
<p><strong>I personally think, however, that the whole debate is smitten with a series of category mistakes, which I’d like to  address.</strong> I’ll begin by  briefly reconstructing two of the more audacious positions on the matter. First via atheistic evolutionary-biologists, evolution is taken not only to be a true account of human biology, but it is taken to absolutely <em>negate </em>the factual existence of God based on the fact that God is not necessary for evolution. Second, and via creationists, evolution is taken to be untrue precisely <em>because it negates</em> the factual existence of God, the Bibilical accounts of which must be given precedence as that are incommensurate with a evolutionary world. These debates, then, make two category mistakes.</p>
<p><strong>First, God is not, I don’t think, an object among other objects or a “fact” among other “facts,”</strong> as I use the term above. That is, if one looks around the room, one has an experience of different objects in the room; one experiences the chairs, knowing in these experiences the functionality and usefulness of the chairs; one experiences the cushions under one’s bottoms, understanding that without them, one would sit on something far more hard. But one does not have an experience of God in this way precisely because God’s being is absolutely distinct from those empirical objects that give themselves over to our perceptions in their uses and qualities.</p>
<p>God, rather, is “invisible,” as the old term goes, which cannot be taken to mean, again, an object in the room that’s unseen, but something utterly different than objects that surround us. <strong>That is, when we talk of God, I don’t believe we talk about a direct experience but about what could be called a re-orientation of our experiences.</strong> That is, we are addressed by that which is completely other than ourselves in such a way that our previous ways of experiencing are brought into question and formed anew. Paul calls this new experience of the world given by God an experience of the world in terms of faith, hope, and love. I take this to mean that we can no longer experience the world solely in terms of its usefulness for us, especially other people, but in terms of what God intended and intends for it—that what is now the case need not always be so!</p>
<p><strong>In this way, it is silly to try and attest to God’s being by way of factuality and as a fact among other facts. This is a categorically mistaken way of thinking about God’s being, which cannot be proved or disproved as such.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Second, what evolution has more precisely to do with God depends entirely on whether one already stands conscientiously re-oriented within the being of God and, thus, how one interprets the meaning of <em>any</em> worldly fact, <em>including evolution</em>.</strong> That is, both sides are wrong to think that evolution says anything <em>necessary</em> about God prior to a belief in God. Rather, one can only interpret the meaning of evolution based on one’s assumption that there is or is not a God. Thus, Christians, for instance, can and do not only affirm the factuality of evolution but can also very specifically interpret evolution as <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0800663187/?tag=homebrechrist-20">God’s working out</a> of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0824505239/?tag=homebrechrist-20">salvation history</a>! Atheists, likewise, can see that, by means of evolution, we do not <em>need</em> to posit a God, which they are absolutely right about even in Christian terms; after all, God is always a gift and never a necessity, which is why the language of emanation has been dropped for the language of grace.</p>
<p>The truth of the matter, then, is that evolution can (and does) stand as a factually demonstrable way to interpret the so called natural history of humanity and the earth while, at the same time, saying absolutely <em>nothing necessary</em> about God, especially in terms of God being interpreted as a fact among other facts.<strong> Either way, one can rightly affirm the factuality of evolutionary processes, which really shouldn’t be up for debate.</strong></p>
<p>The only matters that ought to be up for debate are evolution’s interpretive possibilities.<strong></strong></p>
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		<title>Sojourners, Identity Politics, &amp; Justice: RATT 3</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 19:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sojourners caused a stir when they wouldn&#8217;t publish a &#8220;Believe Out Loud&#8221; ad. Jim Wallis attempted to explain the decision but it didn&#8217;t ease the tension for everyone.  When I saw Tony Jones, Brian McLaren, First Things, Christianity Today, Peter, David Henson, Chad Holtz, &#38; (my favorite post) Nadia Bolz-Weber all in my RSS feed [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sojourners caused a stir when they wouldn&#8217;t publish<a href="http://www.believeoutloud.com/million-strong"> a &#8220;Believe Out Loud&#8221;</a> ad. <a href="http://blog.sojo.net/2011/05/09/a-statement-on-sojourners-mission-and-lgbtq-issues/">Jim Wallis attempted to explain</a> the decision but it didn&#8217;t ease the tension for everyone.  When I saw <a href="http://blog.tonyj.net/2011/05/adding-nuance-to-the-sojourners-kerfuffle/">Tony</a> Jones, <a href="http://www.redletterchristians.org/my-thoughts-on-sojourners/">Brian </a>McLaren, Fi<a href="http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2011/05/11/standing-with-sojourners-when-progressive-isn%E2%80%99t-progressive-enough/">rst Thin</a>gs, Chris<a href="http://blog.christianitytoday.com/ctpolitics/2011/05/sojourners_decl.html">tianity Tod</a>ay, P<a href="http://www.emergingchristian.com/2011/05/response-from-and-to-sojourners/#comment-2923">ete</a>r, D<a href="http://unorthodoxology.blogspot.com/2011/05/jim-wallis-sojourners-divided-justice.html">avid Hens</a>on, C<a href="http://chadholtz.net/2011/05/11/come-stand-with-me-time-to-believe-out-loud/">had Holt</a>z, &amp; (my favorite post) <a href="http://sarcasticlutheran.typepad.com/sarcastic_lutheran/2011/05/my-response-to-sojourners-.html">Nadia Bolz-Weber</a> all in my RSS feed talking about it I started to blog about it and then I went on a trip with my youth over the weekend.  When I got back one of my awesome youth had changed my mind on the issue (she is uber-brilliant&#8230;.a junior in High School who loves Kierkegaard!). So here is <a href="http://rachelheldevans.com/">Rachel Held Evans</a> and I talking about Sojourners, identity politics, the sexuality conversation in the church, justice, and other such stuff in the third episode of RATT!  Enjoy!!</p>
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<p><a href="http://vimeo.com/24155975">Sojourners, Identity Politics, &#038; Justice: RATT 3</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user1101540">tripp fuller</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
<p>* To be clear I am Welcoming and Embracing of all people and R<a href="http://rachelheldevans.com/">achel </a>has NOT said the same thing as me.</p>
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		<title>Why the Resurrection Matters&#8230;.</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2011 17:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The resurrection matters.  Sometimes I make my progressive theological friends anxious when I get going on about it.  A friend told me last week, &#8220;Tripp your Christology is so high it might as well come from Venice Beach.&#8221; While I am not sure about the comparison (p.s. non-LAites Venice has a high concentration of medicinal [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The resurrection matters.  Sometimes I make my progressive theological friends anxious when I get going on about it.  A friend told me last week, &#8220;Tripp your Christology is so high it might as well come from Venice Beach.&#8221; While I am not sure abou<a href="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/we-get-to.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-6225 alignleft" title="we-get-to" src="http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/we-get-to-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a>t the comparison (p.s. non-LAites Venice has a high concentration of medicinal herb patients) I have moved over the last 8 years from having a hard-core Jesus Seminar style demythologized existential Christology to whatever you get when Process theology goes proleptic (Pannenberg + Cobb).  Any way, here&#8217;s a sweet video that <a href="http://www.theworkofthepeople.com/index.php?ct=site.home">Travis Reed </a>made from me rambling about it in a hotel room. You should <a href="http://www.altervideomagazine.com/">subscribe to Alter</a> for even more sweet videos.</p>
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		<title>Sex, Salvation, Scripture, and the Slippery Slope!</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 05:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#8217;s the second RATT video! That&#8217;s right, &#8220;Rachel &#38; Tripp Talking!&#8221; and this time we got sex, salvation, scripture, and the infamous &#8216;slippery slope&#8217; on the docket. &#160; Rachel &#038; Tripp Talking 2 from tripp fuller on Vimeo.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the<a href="http://vimeo.com/22861442"> second RATT video</a>!  That&#8217;s right, &#8220;<a href="http://rachelheldevans.com/">Rachel </a>&amp; Tripp Talking!&#8221; and this time we got sex, salvation, scripture, and the infamous &#8216;slippery slope&#8217; on the docket.</p>
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<p><a href="http://vimeo.com/22861442">Rachel &#038; Tripp Talking 2</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user1101540">tripp fuller</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
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		<title>Sex, Science, &amp; Salvation with Rachel Held Evans (RATT pt.1)</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 19:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tripp Fuller</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rachel Held Evans is the coolest evangelical blogger on planet earth. I had this idea to try Video Blogging with her about random stuff that comes up in the online world. Here&#8217;s our first attempt and I would love to hear your thoughts and, if it&#8217;s worth doing, some other topics and such to discuss. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://rachelheldevans.com/sex-science-salvation-part-1">Rachel Held Evans </a>is the coolest evangelical blogger on planet earth.  I had this idea to try Video Blogging with her about random stuff that comes up in the online world.  Here&#8217;s our first attempt and I would love to hear your thoughts and, if it&#8217;s worth doing, some other topics and such to discuss.</p>
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<p><a href="http://vimeo.com/22689553">Rachel &#038; Tripp Talking 1</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user1101540">tripp fuller</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
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		<title>How to NOT Suck @blogging</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 21:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You blog, read blogs, think about blogging, or wonder what makes for a good blogger?  Here are 5 purely subjective commandments from my head about a good blog post. Sexy Title&#8230;if your title doesn&#8217;t pop then your total eye count won&#8217;t either.  Convince me to click out of my RSS reader or from facebook to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft" src="http://api.ning.com/files/EwF4ba1hwKIj1lnXMkxx-wVDOF0WjjzZFHDq0ILwg1ftKkAqXpRIQegfpSZ7TEfd6WnZKMEngfgAToNrxxkyRcw-nr-P7uqB/toblogornottoblog.JPG" alt="" width="217" height="152" /> You blog, read blogs, think about blogging, or wonder what makes for a good blogger?  Here are 5 purely subjective commandments from my head about a good blog post.</p>
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<li><strong>Sexy Title&#8230;</strong>if your title doesn&#8217;t pop then your total eye count won&#8217;t either.  Convince me to click out of my RSS reader or from facebook to your blog.  You can make a title sexy in a variety ways&#8230;.hyperbolize your spin or tell me I&#8217;ll learn something I want to learn or ask a good question or well you get the idea.</li>
<li><strong>Word Count Matters!</strong> If it is less than 300 words then you should post it on facebook or tweet it but DON&#8217;T blog it.  Consistent wussy posts make me unsubscribe.  If it&#8217;s over 500 words you should cut it, divide it, get a book deal, or blow my mind&#8230;otherwise I am not gonna finish reading it.</li>
<li><strong>Keep it Speedable. </strong>Speedable = Speed+Readable.  Please make it easy for me to quickly hear what you want me to hear.  There a bunch of ways&#8230;.short paragraphs, bullet points, numbered thoughts, bold\underlining, short quotes, and maybe a flashing arrow at your thesis statement.</li>
<li><strong>Own Your Voice.</strong> I come to your blog to hear you, so let me. Tell me what you think and say it with strength. If I want to know what a bunch of other people think about something I will google it. Mention\summarize someone else only if necessary. Otherwise convince me, excite me or irritate me with what you think today.  The post is dated and you can change your mind tomorrow.</li>
<li><strong>Remember the Conversation. </strong>No blogger is an island&#8230; at least not good one.  Don&#8217;t finish the conversation but join it.  Do NOT claim the last word in your post or on a topic.  Conversation, even controversy, can be good but being a butt-hole is not.  Don&#8217;t forget to respond to comments, comment elsewhere, and link to other posts.</li>
<li><strong>You Tell me&#8230;..</strong> I want 10 commandments for not sucking @blogging.  I will add five more, revise above, and then post the 10 up again later. <strong><em>SO HELP ME OUT!</em></strong></li>
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		<title>Your First Steps into Biblical Universalism&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 08:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tripp Fuller</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[So the number of permanent residents in hell is on your mind? I&#8217;m gonna guess it wasn&#8217;t a few weeks ago until Rob Bell solicited a few twitter-bombs from some conservative dogma police. Since then it has been really popular to blast Bell for being un-biblical, heterodox, and all other sorts of bad stuff. That&#8217;s [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/006204964X/?tag=homebrechrist-20"><img class="alignleft" src="http://www.heartsandmindsbooks.com/rob-bell-love-wins-book.jpg" alt="" width="170" height="254" /></a> So the number of permanent residents in hell is on your mind?  I&#8217;m gonna guess it wasn&#8217;t a few weeks ago until Rob Bell solicited a few twitter-bombs from some conservative dogma police.  Since then it has been really popular to blast Bell for being un-biblical, heterodox, and all other sorts of bad stuff.  That&#8217;s cool if you are interested in getting into someone&#8217;s head, supplying their intentions, and making judgments on behalf of the truth (which these individuals have undiluted access to!!).  BUT if the conversation has got you thinking&#8230;is &#8216;l<a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/006204964X/?tag=homebrechrist-20">ove wins&#8217;</a> really a dramatic deviation from the church&#8217;s tradition and just some<a href="http://www.albertmohler.com/2011/03/16/we-have-seen-all-this-before-rob-bell-and-the-reemergence-of-liberal-theology/"> sexy packaging for liberal theolo</a>gy I would like to introduce you to a few Early Church Fathers who could introduce you to a &#8216;love wins&#8217; way to read the Bible:<a href="http://www.religionfacts.com/christianity/people/clement_alexandria.htm"> Clement of Alexandria</a> (ca. 160-215 C.E.), <a href="http://www.religionfacts.com/christianity/people/origen.htm">Origen</a> (ca. 185-ca. 251 C.E.), and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregory_of_Nyssa">Gregory of Nyssa </a>(331/340-ca. 395 C.E.)</p>
<p>These fellas are not just mi<a href="http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/kevindeyoung/2011/03/14/rob-bell-love-wins-review/">nor voices who should be ignored</a> but essential for the develop of the doctrine of the Trinity (ps&#8230;it&#8217;s a big deal doctrine). I will avoid a discussion of the Trinity and their brilliant philosophical modification of Platonism to simply say that the nature of divine love articulated in the Trinity led them toward affirming God&#8217;s universalism. (1) But more than the Trinity it was the Bible that got&#8217;em!</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t believe me? Then try it out! Remember these three things and read some Bible to see if Biblical universalism is jiving with you.</p>
<p>Here are some of these three fellas favorite Bible passages&#8230;John 12:32; Acts 3:21; Romans 5:18-21, 11:25-26a, 32; 1 Corinthians  3:12-15; 15:22-28; 2 Corinthians 5:19; Ephesians 1:10; Philippians  2:9-11; Colossians 1:20; 1 Timothy <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0761827196/?tag=homebrechrist-20"><img class="alignright" src="http://img1.fkcdn.com/img/191/9780761827191.jpg" alt="" width="129" height="200" /></a>2:4; Titus 2:11; 2 Peter 3:9; 1 John  2:2.  For serious play-by-play through these Church Fathers&#8217; readings of the Bible see<a href="http://ecclesialtheology.blogspot.com/2011/03/on-universalism-heresy-and-rob-bell.html"> Steve Harmon</a>&#8216;s book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0761827196/?tag=homebrechrist-20"><em>Every Knee Should Bow: Biblical Rationales for Universal Salvation in Early Christian Thoug</em><em>ht</em></a>. (2)  But before you read them check out these three features of Biblical Universalism and see if they help frame your Bible reading.</p>
<p><strong>1) God is Love</strong>&#8230;.this means that there is nothing about God, in God, or comes from God that is not love.  Love is not something God occasionally does or engages in but is the very essence of God.  To say &#8216;God is Love&#8217; is to say that the great mystery of God is a mystery in which every depth that is yet to be understood or revealed is another depth of love.  God is love.  Love known and unknown but nothing but love.</p>
<p><strong>2) Love requires freedom</strong>&#8230;..this means that God&#8217;s actual goal for creation, to bring it to fruition within the divine love (Paul&#8217;s &#8216;all-in-all&#8217;), requires creation to have genuine freedom.  Even Calvinists pretend its true in their daily lives.  For example, when two lovers consummate their marriage in a passionate act of sweet love making, freedom, vulnerability, and risk is what made the actual act &#8211; intercourse &#8211; making love and not rape.  The freedom to give oneself to another and to receive the other as other is not a human contaminant to love but essential.  Because the God who is Love desires to love the whole world and genuine love involves freedom, the creatures of the Creator have received the gift of freedom <em>to</em> love God as a result of God&#8217;s own free decision to create and love.</p>
<p><strong>3) Love Wins</strong>&#8230;.God&#8217;s love wins. Why? Because the God who is Love is the one and only true God.  The infinite Creator of all the universe who is love, is infinitely committed to loving and living in love with the world.  This finite world and every finite person within it will remain for all eternity an object of the pure divine love.  So both the Creator and creature&#8217;s freedom can never be compromised for premature victory.  This means  a). No one can or ever will be forced into loving God for the very love God desires requires freedom &amp;  b) Nothing, including one&#8217;s death or present state of response, can force the infinite God of Love to quit pursuing any and every part of God&#8217;s creation.</p>
<p>I hope you can see how this is NOT universalism of the blank check variety.  <strong>The only thing universal here is the scope and reservoir of God&#8217;s love. </strong>The eschatological optimism is not about anyone, anything, or any action other than the God revealed in the life, ministry, death, and resurrection of Jesus.  It is precisely that very particular vision of God that can lead one to be optimistic, hopeful, and excited about the future.  Why? because the world&#8217;s future is God.</p>
<p>1. The Trinity still opens one&#8217;s theological imagination in an eschatologically optimistic direction. There is of course Karl Barth but a Greek Orthodox Priest who is a friend told me he saw all these &#8216;love wins&#8217; posts on facebook and read enough quotes from the book to think it sounds like a pretty normal idea in Orthodox circles.</p>
<p>2. This book is really excellent and was personally transformative for me in undergrad!</p>
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		<title>Rob Bell Wins</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 17:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I watched the live- webcast of the Rob Bell interview about his new book &#8220;Love Wins&#8221; and blogged a couple of thoughts on it at  an Everyday Theology. It got a good response so I thought I would post it here. In case you had not seen the webcast, you can watch the video of the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched the live- webcast of the Rob Bell interview about his new book &#8220;Love Wins&#8221; and blogged a couple of thoughts on it at  <a title="an Everyday Theology - Rob Bell" href="http://aneverydaytheology.blogspot.com/2011/03/rob-bell-wins.html" target="_blank">an Everyday Theolog</a>y. It got a good response so I thought I would post it here.<br />
In case you had not seen the webcast, <a href="http://livestre.am/CFcU">you can watch the video of the event here</a></p>
<p>Here are  my two quick thoughts on it:</p>
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<li>We are not having this conversation in a vacuum</li>
<li>Rob Bell is up to something</li>
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<p>We are not in a vacuum and the context of this conversation is post-enlightenment / post-christendom. That means a couple of things:<br />
<strong>a)</strong> everyone has their own bible<br />
<strong>b)</strong> most people can read it<br />
<strong>c)</strong> evangelicals do not have Popes or councils to make decisions on this kind of stuff<strong> </strong><br />
<strong>d)</strong> for Reformed folks (Piper, Driscol, Keller, etc) the bible just doesn&#8217;t say what they need it to say for this thing to be air tight.</p>
<p>SO &#8211; we have a couple of issues!<br />
The biggest issue is that we take passages like Matthew 7 (<em>which one of the white women in Rob&#8217;s audience asked about</em>) where Jesus says &#8220;wide is the road that leads to destruction&#8221; and we THINK that it is about Hell. <strong>It is not</strong>. We have been taught to read the Bible wrong. We trade one word for another all the time.  <a href="http://aneverydaytheology.blogspot.com/2010/11/wide-is-road.html">I wrote about that here.</a></p>
<p>Then &#8211; some one like Rob comes along and calls that into question (he is up to something) and people FREAK out.</p>
<p><strong>Matthew 7 isn&#8217;t about hell. But we got so comfortable thinking that it was &#8230; now we are uncomfortable with how comfortable we were.</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;ll give you another example: Paul never mentions hell. In any of sermons (Acts) or letters. It is not there.  <a href="http://aneverydaytheology.blogspot.com/2011/03/hellish-week.html" target="_blank">I wrote about its absence here. </a></p>
<p>Here is another one: Revelation &#8211; which is not to be read literally &#8211; teaches (<em>even to those who DO think it is litera</em>l) that hell is not eternal. Even in that scenario hell is temporary and is emptied into the lake of fire. They are not the same place or for the same purpose.  read Revelation 20:14-15.</p>
<p><strong>But since many don&#8217;t know that&#8230; we end up asking &#8220;<em>wait! if there is no hell &#8230; then why are we even doing evangelism or missions</em>&#8220;. The answer is that we were doing them for the wrong reason. Some of it was colonial &#8230; some of it was worse. </strong></p>
<p>We should do evangelism and we should do mission &#8211; but not because of this understanding of hell.</p>
<p>So &#8211; I am not saying that Rob Bell is right. I am not saying that everyone will be saved. But the reality is that many have not taken these passage seriously.  Passages such as:</p>
<p>Colossians 1:20 “and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.”</p>
<p>Romans 5:10 “For if, while we were God’s enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life!”</p>
<p>2 Corinthians 5:18 &#8220;All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s my 2 cents.  What did you think?</p>
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		<title>The Question of Authenticity and God</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 21:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Deacon Hall</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since I finished my Quals, Tripp’s been bugging me to begin posting on 19th and 20th century philosophical-theology. I gotta be honest, here: I’m really tired of reading and writing that kind of stuff.  The truth of the matter is that I think Tripp just wants me to put my exams online so he doesn’t [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I finished my Quals, Tripp’s been bugging me to begin posting on 19<sup>th </sup>and 20<sup>th</sup> century philosophical-theology. I gotta be honest, here: I’m really tired of reading and writing that kind of stuff.  The truth of the matter is that I think Tripp just wants me to put my exams online so he doesn’t have to study for his.  Instead, I’m going to continue posting a bit on my dissertation and where I’m going with it.  Even though it&#8217;s general wisdom that only 3 people will ever read a dissertation, hopefully a few of you will find it interesting enough to be willing to converse with me on the topic.</p>
<p>To begin with, I’d like to make a statement about my <a href='http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2010/03/24/identity-bound-some-fun-with-advertising/'>last post</a>.  <strong>My basic premise in that post is quite simple: whatever the advertising world latches onto and uses for selling consumer goods sheds light on the ways in which that culture thinks and values.</strong> Because, in these previous commercials, advertisers latch onto a desire in our culture to form what we would consider “authentic” identities, we must take seriously as both a philosophical and theological category the notion of “authentic identity-formation,” or what I will simply call “authenticity” from here on out.</p>
<p>In this regard, I have been doing a lot of studies in Charles Taylor (the philosopher not the dictator) who takes up this notion of authenticity from a cultural and philosophical perspective.  According to Taylor, the ideal of authenticity as a contemporary ethical standard has emerged from several historical idea sources, all of which have been taken over and setup as standards in their own right.  So, the invention of individualism, the development of what will be called by Rousseau the &#8216;inner-voice of nature,&#8217; and emergence of Romantic understandings of originality (none of which I will try to do justice to here) have all grounded the idea of authenticity. <strong> So, for Taylor, the idea of authenticity is latently understood and lived by us as drive to become an original expression of humanity through our making explicit what is potentially within us.</strong> To put it a bit differently, we’ve all been imbued with different and unique “talents,” and the ethic of authenticity moves us to strive to make actual these talents, both becoming and forming for ourselves what we already are to some degree.</p>
<p>At a properly philosophical level, Taylor develops this idea in an interesting direction.  <strong>Philosophically, Taylor is highly critical of certain of our cultural appropriations of the idea of authenticity.  Our appropriations tend to be solipsistic, narcisstic, self-centered;</strong> persons who explicitly desire to become authentic often do so in such a way that they use others and the world surrounding them to make for themselves who they are and want to be.  But, according to Taylor, this appropriation of the ethic of authenticity is an aberrant one.  To become authentic is never to become such at the expense of the rest of the world, especially our fellow human beings; to become authentic rather, is to become so in light of, and in conversation, with the world and our fellow human beings (what Taylor calls our &#8216;dialogical horizons&#8217;), especially our direct communities and cultures.  To translate this critique in somewhat of the direction I want to take it, then, selfhood and the formation of individual identity depends on structures outside of the self that are irreducible to the self. <strong> And to become truly authentic, for both Taylor and me, is to create oneself with a </strong><em><strong>cognizance of</strong></em><strong> these structures.</strong></p>
<p>I will not move, here, into the possibility of all these structures; such a task would have to match Hegel’s attempts to unify knowledge and being in his Encyclopedia (a task that I think impossible in the first place).  But it is possible to say that there are certain of these structures that are contingent, for instance, that I was born in the Northwest of U.S. and was formed and formed myself in light of the possibilities afforded to me in that culture; There are, however, also such structures that are necessary (that if I’m born, I must die; death is a necessary structure in human existence).  <strong>The question I’m explicitly interested pertains to God and God’s necessity, namely, does God form a necessary identity structure such that, if I am not cognizant of God, I cannot be an authentic human being. </strong> For reasons that I will explain more later, I’m answering no: authenticity is possible without cognizance of God precisely because God must be understood as that which is <em>more</em> than necessary.</p>
<p>At any rate, I hope these cryptic statements are at least of some interest to you;  if not,  I&#8217;m afraid that conventional wisdom is right: that only my committee and one other person will ever actually read my dissertation <img src='http://homebrewedchristianity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Identity-Bound: Some Fun with Advertising</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 21:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Deacon Hall</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I haven&#8217;t been blogging for a bit, now; I&#8217;ve been working on passing my Qualifying Exams.   But I&#8217;m back for a while and will be presenting to you what are some hopefully thought-provoking posts!  I won&#8217;t explain this post too much, now, (I&#8217;ll save that for a follow up post), but it&#8217;s connected to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t been blogging for a bit, now; I&#8217;ve been working on passing my Qualifying Exams.   But I&#8217;m back for a while and will be presenting to you what are some hopefully thought-provoking posts!  I won&#8217;t explain this post too much, now, (I&#8217;ll save that for a follow up post), but it&#8217;s connected to my dissertation.   My dissertation is on authenticity and God, and the idea of authenticity is intimately bound up with the notion of identity-formation, which I&#8217;d like to explore with you in this post and some posts to come.</p>
<p>In this particular post, I want to ask a few simple questions: what does it mean to be authentic?, can a consumer product make you truly authentic?, how do advertisers use a desire to become authentic to create effective, even visually beautiful, advertisments? I&#8217;ve given three examples below and would <em>love</em> it if you could post some commercials with similar explanations in the comments section.<br />
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<p><a><strong>Miracle Whip</strong></a><br />
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<p>This first commercial is my personal favorite.  It is a Miracle Whip commercial.  By means of an extremely fun looking hipster party and lines like “don’t be so mayo,” Miracle Whip makes the case that its sandwich spread can summon and articulate the true you.  As an aside, Stephen Colbert had a lot of fun toying with this commercial on the <a href='http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/252726/october-15-2009/the-mayo-lution-will-not-be-televised' target='_blank'>Colbert Report</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Ipod Nano</strong><br />
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<p>Using a quite catchy and appropriately titled song called “Bourgeois Shangri-la,” the second commercial advertises the new video-recording capability of the ipod nano.  Especially notable are the dancers, each of whom are trendily dressed in colors similar to the ipods recording them and are dancing with distinctly free-spirited moves. The theme in this commercial is the same as the last: by buying the ipod with which you most closely identify, you will be able to express an important and “original” aspect of your identity.</p>
<p><strong>Seasonique</strong><br />
<object classid='clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000' width='480' height='385' codebase='http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0'><param name='allowFullScreen' value='true' /><param name='allowscriptaccess' value='always' /><param name='src' value='http://www.youtube.com/v/6xsnKcNgZW8&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;' /><param name='allowfullscreen' value='true' /><embed type='application/x-shockwave-flash' width='480' height='385' src='http://www.youtube.com/v/6xsnKcNgZW8&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;' allowscriptaccess='always' allowfullscreen='true'></embed></object></p>
<p>While the first commercial is still my favorite, in many ways, the third commercial is the most interesting.  The commercial is selling a birth-control pill that allows a woman to (cleverly) “re-punctuate” her life and menstruate only four times per year.  The commercial evokes a very postmodern theme, namely, that identity is a social construction and that menstruation is too.  The commercial is driven by the theme, “who says&#8230;,” the connotation of which is that you need not be anything that you do not want to be.  Instead, be whom you are: someone who identifies less with your menstrual cycle.</p>
<p>With these commercials in mind, fire away!  I&#8217;d love to find some more of these.</p>
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