Thomas Jay Oord really loves talking about Love [Barrel Aged]

2811843_origIt’s time to bring you one of my favorite podcast guests from the past and one of the finest human beings I know – Tom Oord. In this episode we talk about one of Tom’s greatest loves… the study of Love. Enjoy!

Thomas Jay Oord is a theologian, philosopher, and scholar of multi-disciplinary studies. He is the author or editor of more than twenty books and professor at Northwest Nazarene University, Nampa, Idaho. Oord is known for his contributions to research on love, relational theology, science and religion, Wesleyan/Holiness/Church of the Nazarene thought and Evangelical theology.

Check out Tom’s books we discussed: The Many Facets of Love: Philosophical Explorations and Science of Love: The Wisdom of Well-Being.

Summer School – Living Options in Christian Theology

JOIN the Homebrewed Community as an Elder or Bishop, and you’ll be enrolled for FREE – www.homebrewedcommunity.com. OR, you can register for the class by itself here – www.trippfuller.com/learning. Sign up – order your book – and get ready for the goodness!

High GravityBo and Tripp are excited to announce a new High Gravity class for this Summer! We are interested in a vibrant approach to a contemporary theological framework that doesn’t require a complete overhaul of your already existing faith.

  • Is Process too big of a leap?
  • Does Radical Theology provide too little substance?
  • Is Practical Theology just too darn practical?

Looking for a robust, thoroughly-Christian theological framework for the 21st century? Then we have a conversation for you!

As I have taken some time off these past several months, I have noticed a couple of trends:

  1. Process is just too big of a conversion for some. They like the ideas and enjoy that Tripp is so jazzed about it … but it is a major commitment to learn that vocabulary and overhaul nearly every aspect of what they have been taught was Christianity.
  2. Radical Theology is interesting and challenging … but at the end of the day just doesn’t provide very much to go on. It is deconstructive in helpful ways but doesn’t leave you with much for constructing a faith worth even having.
  3. Practical Theology asks some helpful questions and people get why I am into it … but it is a second order discourse and people want to ask some ‘first order’ questions about some primary issues.

This June and July we want to engage is a conversation about science, technology, other religions and the limits of language – while constructing a fully up-to-date version of Christian belief! Don’t worry about Heidegger, Hegel or Kant – plenty has already been said about them – this is an intelligent conversation about the here-and-now of Christian thought.

Living Options in Christian Theology
June 12 – Intro: Theology for a Nuclear Age

June 18 – Week 1: Theology, Science & Nature

June 25 – Week 2: Theology and Public Discourse

July 4 – Half-Time Break

July 9 – Week 3: Theology, Historicity and Solidarity

July 16 – Week 4: Theology and Corporate/Corporeal Identity

July 23 – Week 5: Theology and the Prospects for God-Talk

Our main text will be Theology at the End of Modernity: Essays in Honor of Gordon D. Kaufman – Sheila Greeve Davaney (Editor)

Each of the 5 sections of the book has 3 essays. Each week we will focus on 2 of those essays with Tripp taking one to explore and Bo concentrating on another. We will also supply supplemental material each week on the course website. PDFs of course material will begin going out May. 
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JOIN the Homebrewed Community as an Elder or Bishop, and you’ll be enrolled for FREE – www.homebrewedcommunity.com. OR, you can register for the class by itself here – www.trippfuller.com/learning. Sign up – order your book – and get ready for the goodness!

Nerd Out in the Twin Cities!

This episode is the highlights from the Live podcast at the Twin Cities School of Theology Launch Party. TwinSoT is new theological school being launched by Untied Theological Seminary in the Twin Cities and also new partner with the Hatchery LATWINSOT_guests

In the podcast you will hear from Barbara Holmes, Philip Clayton, Paul Capetz,
Thorsten Mortiz and Maria Francesca French.

The highlight of the trip was definitely getting to connect with the local Deacons! It was amazing to put some human beings to the tweets and speak pipe calls. Plus I got to go to Fulton brewery afterwards and buy some the HBC Community members a pint.

Make sure to sign up for the Summer School High Gravity class “Living Options In Christian Theology”.

 

Something to Like, Believe…and FEAR (CultureCast LIVE Pt. 2 of 2)

screamBe afraid…be very afraid…

No, wait. Don’t do that. That’s Amy Piatt’s job. How about just checking out part two of the awesome LIVE Homebrewed CultureCast instead?

We dispensed with all the serious stuff in the first half (if you didn’t check that out yet, CLICK HERE), so now it’s time for a new segment, called Stranger Than Fiction. In it, we read five religiously-themed news stories and see if our esteemed guests, Steve Chalke and Doug Pagitt, can tell the real deal from a pile of crap we made up our very own selves.

See if you can do better than they did…which won’t be too hard, trust me.

Then we drop some hot, fresh recommendations on you, from the movie PRIDE to summer tunes to fill your ear-parts and tickle your brain-pieces. And I’ll give you a hint; if you listen to this episode, you’ll hear some of the recommended music live. Well, it was live when we recorded it, anyway. What do you want from me???

Finally, we dig down to the bowels (eww) of fear with Amy Piatt, who never ceases to churn out new tidbits to add that necessary twinge of horror to your day. Yaknow, just to keep it interesting and stuff. But it turns out Christian shares this week’s fear as well.

Wait…Christian has feelings?IMG_4767

And though the crowd is a little more chatty and raucous during this half (there were adult beverages involved, after all) there’s tons of good live music once again from Portland’s own Horse Feathers and Minneapolis’ resident artist, Heatherlyn.

We’ll get back to the studio soon enough (and by studio, we mean sitting around the laptop in Christian’s office), but honestly, it’s a lot more fun to talk smack and drink beer with 100 or so of our closest friends…or at least 100 people who heard about the awesome CultureCast pint glasses and came a-runnin’. Either way, we’ll take it.

Want to get one (or twenty) of these groovy CultureCast pint glasses in your own hot little hands? Email Christian at cpiatt (at) christianpiatt (dot) com. He’ll do you right.

Special thanks to our esteemed sponsors: Phillips Theological Seminary, Basecamp Brewing Co., Marmoset Music and Kill Rock Stars Records. You folks are super groovy. 

TNT Call-In: Orthodoxy, God and Culture

This TNT Call-In is packed with conversation and contentious perspectives about God, culture and evangelical ‘orthodoxy’.  TNT

5 calls provide more material than Bo and Tripp can possibly deal with in one episode. At min 55 the ‘Al’ vs. ‘The’ debate resurfaces in a brand new way to end the show.

May 16 we have called a Deacons Meeting in LA.

May 28 we have a Deacon Distillery in Sacramento after the NT Wright lecture.

Resurrection-al

On today’s TNT podcast a well-meaning caller tries to close the gap between Tripp and my perspectives by appealing to Whitehead’s process view (minute 55).

Let me try to articulate my perspective as quickly and clearly as possible so that there are no misunderstandings – even if you disagree with me.

My 3-fold thought is pretty straight forward.

The gospel and thus the church are:
A) Incarnational
B) Resurrectional
C) Pentecostal

Incarnation means embodied and enacted. It is not abstract ideas, universal concepts or timeless truths … it is local, particular and timely.

Resurrection means the church is a new-life people with perpetual hope. Death is not the last word and we serve a God who vindicates the victim and unmasks the powers that be.

Pentecost means that God’s Spirit is at work in the world (ahead of us) in-filling us with power for a transformed life resulting in sanctification-holiness (within us) and opening us to the possibilities and opportunities for ministry (all around us).empty tomb

 

So let’s zoom in on the Resurrectional aspect more specifically.

An argument that I hear over and over is that the resurrection must have been real because
A) the disciples lives were transformed by what they experienced
B) they were so convinced that they were willing to risk –and ultimately give – their lives for it.

I don’t disagree with either one of those lines of reasoning.

 

My contention comes from Saul’s experience on the road to Damascus (Acts 9).

Follow my concern:

1) Whatever kind of body that Jesus had after Easter Sunday BUT before the Ascension was the kind of body that allowed him to both walk through walls (John 21:19) and make breakfast for his friends on the shore (John 21:12). He looked enough like himself that Thomas could touch the wounds (John 20:26) but different enough to be mistaken for gardeners (John 20:15) and strangers (John 21:4).

Jesus has a kind of body that we can expect to have when we are resurrected (Romans 6:5) – it will have some relation to our present earthly existence but be glorified/improved as to constitute a new existence.

2) When Saul meets the Lord on the road and was blinded by the light … his life was transformed and he was willing to sacrifice and eventually offer his life because of what he had experienced.

 

But is anyone suggesting that the Jesus Spirit that Saul met on the road to Damascus (Acts 9:5-6) is the same bodied-one the disciples met after Easter/ pre-Ascension?

NO!

So apparently you don’t need a resuscitated corps or molecular/cellular consistency to result
A) a changed life
B) the willingness to give ones life for what they experienced.

Therefore, I am not interested in getting into arguments based on the certainty of THE resurrection – however one understands that.

THE resurrection is whatever it is/was. Understanding/articulating it is not my primary concern!
I want to know in what way the people of god are a resurrectional community that celebrates new life and offers perpetual hope because of what we have experienced … the presence of Christ.