Bo and Tripp walk the wild and windey road that leads to a full-bodied and vibrant understanding of the nature and work of Christ!

After a lively intro, Tripp puts forward several proposals for how one might hold a progressive Christology in the face of some formidable challenges – including biblical criticism and the concerns of pluralism.

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Wrapped it up on the way home yesterday.  Again, fun episode.  I'm glad Tripp made the point, late in the series of ascending Christologies, that any one of the series could, articulated in certain ways, encompass others.  That said, I thought Tripp had said that there were eight on the way, but I reckon the last three could be the stuff of the second part.


I might do a SpeakPipe version of this question later, but on the question of pluralism, I would like for you to say a bit more about the passing assertion (I think it was Bo, but I'm not sure) that modern religions "aren't going anywhere."  That strikes me as a strange claim, given the long history of Mithra cults, Osiris-temples, Thor-shrines, and other such phenomena that in fact did in fact cease to persuade human beings of their truth.  What about current iterations of Islam, Buddhism, and other such traditions makes them immune to history?  Or did you mean to emphasize something entirely different with that bit?


I haven't gotten all the way through the episode yet (I hope to finish on the way home this afternoon), but I'm digging the first half.  A couple of your comments deserve some expansion:

1) I appreciate your focus on the fact that the narratives give rise to the Christology.  If I could get a little Richard Hays on the forgiveness-of-sins point, I've often wondered (and brought up in church classes that I've taught) that there is a human figure who, without the temple mechanism, forgives sins in the Old Testament, namely David on his way back to Jerusalem after the Absalom revolt.  In terms of literary echoes, it's fun to think that perhaps the unease with Jesus's forgiving sins is not only pro-temple anxiety but also the fact that he's assuming Davidic authority over Israel while there's still a Pilate running things.

2) With regards to the long series of councils and theologians taking on the body, mind, will, and other human elements of Jesus, I read David Bentley Hart's _Atheist Delusions_ over Christmas break, and one (of the many) fascinating arguments he articulates is that those long philosophical dialogues, because they simultaneously articulated and elevated to Christ-hood the complex facets of human existence, did grand, world-changing things to expand Christians' appreciation for human beings.  I'd never drawn that conclusion, but it makes a fair bit of sense--if the desires are Christ-attributes, that at least does some serious damage to the Platonic doctrine that the happiest among us are those who have relegated sex-desires and food-desires to the realm of the irrelevant.


I'm sure I'll have more to say when I've finished, but those points are interesting enough that I had to do some half-time commentary. :)