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The Creatio Ex Nihilio Debate!

May 25, 2012 by Tripp Fuller 11 Comments

Get ready for a theological treasure chest! Here you get not one or even two theologians but SIX theologians ready to throw down theologically over Creation Out of Nothing. The audio was harvested from the Open and Relational Theologies group at the American Academy of Religion of which I am a very proud member!  This episode will include the panelists arguments for or against Creatio Ex Nihilio and later this weekend we will post the Question & Response portion of the session.  The initial panel includes:

  • Philip Clayton, Claremont School of Theology view/download paper
  • Monica A. Coleman, Claremont School of Theology view/download paper
  • Catherine Keller, Drew University view/download paper
  • Michael Lodahl, Point Loma Nazarene University view/download paper
  • Richard Rice, Loma Linda University view/download paper
  • Marit Trelstad, Pacific Lutheran University

In the past week Tony Jones picked a little fight over Creation Out of Nothing by quote bombing me with Moltmann, I responded and Tony retorted.  Now I figured it would be a good to share this episode we’ve been sitting on.  I do hope you enjoy it and if you are an AAR attendee come on out for one of the Open & Relational theology sessions this year in Chicago.

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kenalto9
kenalto9 5pts

afraid this one went a bit over my head. (judging by the lack of hair, some things go lower over my head than others) i'd be interested to hear more about what is at stake in the various positions? Is viewing God as having created out of nothing perhaps viewing God as too Almighty? So, do those who speak against caution us against idolizing power rather than creativity?

 

good to know that theologians do limericks!

Wayne Schroeder
Wayne Schroeder 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Observations:

1) I don't think I would like anyone to self-empty on me either. (highlight of the panel)

2) Why would anyone want to disagree with Catherine Keller

3) How would anyone disagree with Catherine

4) What was it she said again?

Good stuff, well moderated by Thomas Oord.

Wayne Schroeder
Wayne Schroeder 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

Creatio ex amore . . . . BANG!  (Best of both worlds--that should fix it:)

trippfuller
trippfuller moderator 5pts

 @Wayne Schroeder when in doubt go with love!

Latest blog post: A funny thing happened on the way to Pentecost

trippfuller
trippfuller moderator 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Philip Clayton's use of Levinas on the side of ex nihilio was a move of a master. #wellplayed

Latest blog post: I’m not sure most Christians know that

anonymouse1228
anonymouse1228 5pts

It would be nice if someone in this debate held a truly opposing view. It reads like an argument about nuances among several theologians who basically agree with each. *Yawn*

trippfuller
trippfuller moderator 5pts

 @anonymouse1228 well they are all members of the Open and Relational theology group so they all think God is primarily relational and loving.

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