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Here’s my attempt to stream this conversation. It should go live right before 2pm on the West Coast.
Here‘s Clayton’s Pre-Debate Post \ John gives a super recap \ Philip‘s post-debate reflection \ Bob Rhodes reflects on the conversation \ newspaper writeup
So, they seem to agree on nerly everything. Is clayong an atheist?
pre-debate Thoughts re: today’s debate – Philip Clayton vs Dan Dennett Other than that, thanks to all who made this event possible and accessible! It was a great grappling with residual issues :)
Halfway thru this conversation, I am wondering if the reconcilement between Clayton & Dennett's approach to consciousness lies somewhere in between Dennett's eliminative stance vis a vis qualia and Clayton's affirmation of the "hard" aspect to the problem of consciousness. What I am thinking about is Terry Deacon's peircean approach or semiotic realism, which affirms what we might call a minimalist telos, or a downward causation without the violation of physical causal closure, such as, for example, the co-evolution of language and brain, Baldwinian evolution, formal causation in the context of semiotic science and nonreductive physicalism. What a theology of nature does with this minimalist telos is to draw analogs and elaborate metaphors invoking a more robust telic dimension. What a natural theology does with it is to affirm the framing of the question of a robust telos as meaningful, not pretending to be able to either prove or disprove it.
Looking forward to hearing this one. Can you do anything about the member of the audience in the brown sweater-vest with diamond shapes? I have it from a very relaible source that he can be disruptive at times.
Hello Does anyone mind if for the sake of the common man I cough up a big Ivory Tower Hair Ball! Pastor Bill From Middle Earth
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