Here’s my attempt to stream this conversation. It should go live right before 2pm on the West Coast.
Here‘s Clayton’s Pre-Debate Post \ John gives a super recap \ Philip‘s post-debate reflection \ Bob Rhodes reflects on the conversation \ newspaper writeup
Looking forward to hearing this one. Can you do anything about the member of the audience in the brown sweater-vest with diamond shapes? I have it from a very relaible source that he can be disruptive at times.
Halfway thru this conversation, I am wondering if the reconcilement between Clayton & Dennett’s approach to consciousness lies somewhere in between Dennett’s eliminative stance vis a vis qualia and Clayton’s affirmation of the “hard” aspect to the problem of consciousness. What I am thinking about is Terry Deacon’s peircean approach or semiotic realism, which affirms what we might call a minimalist telos, or a downward causation without the violation of physical causal closure, such as, for example, the co-evolution of language and brain, Baldwinian evolution, formal causation in the context of semiotic science and nonreductive physicalism. What a theology of nature does with this minimalist telos is to draw analogs and elaborate metaphors invoking a more robust telic dimension. What a natural theology does with it is to affirm the framing of the question of a robust telos as meaningful, not pretending to be able to either prove or disprove it.
pre-debate Thoughts re: today’s debate – Philip Clayton vs Dan Dennett
Other than that, thanks to all who made this event possible and accessible!
It was a great grappling with residual issues
So, they seem to agree on nerly everything. Is clayong an atheist?
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Does anyone mind if for the sake of the common man I cough up a big Ivory Tower Hair Ball!
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