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Kingdom, Church, hmm……

March 28, 2009 by Tripp Fuller 2 Comments

How do you understand the ‘kingdom of God,’ the central theme of Jesus teaching? What is the relationship between the kingdom and the church? These are important questions and regular ones for participants in the emerging conversation. The more progressive Christians can often end up distracted sidetracked by the inherent patriarchy and hierarchy in the phrase itself OR progressives just avoid talking about the kingdom because it has such eschatological baggage.  In this video John Cobb tackles the question as submitted by one of the Transforming Theology Theo-Bloggers (I don’t remember who to pass along the credit) and does so as a progressive by going back to the Bible, the Greek Bible.  His exposition of this concept is challenging and inspiring.  Good Stuff.  Enjoy!

Filed Under: media, thinking

The Spirit of Liberalism (John Cobb)

March 26, 2009 by Tripp Fuller 5 Comments

John Cobb discusses ‘liberal theology’ as a mindset rather than a particular set of conclusions. If being liberal means taking up this mindset then I am pretty liberal while sharing a number of the criticisms Niebuhr and others have made. What do you think of this definition as a mind set? I think it avoids something that can be easily demonized and pushed aside, while also not being tied to a particular theological vision.

Filed Under: engaging, media

Rehabilitating Christology

March 25, 2009 by Tripp Fuller 1 Comment

There is hardly anything as depressing as a progressive Christian who has a hard time saying anything about Jesus.  Not just theologians or pastors but just any one who ventures to think about Jesus after biblical criticism in a historical situation that is religiously pluralistic with plenty of visible scars of Jesus followers doing damage to others in Christ’s name has trouble getting started.  This video is a pretty fun way of examining how you can ratchet up your Jesus-Talk and I would be interested in hearing where the HBC Deacaons jump of the Christological train Clayton is describing.

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Diana Butler Bass Tells the Other Side of the Story: Homebrewed Christianity 48

March 25, 2009 by Chad Crawford Leave a Comment

From our guest interviewer, Zach Roberts:dbb_19

Scholar and writer Diana Butler Bass‘s new book, A People’s History of Christianity, is a fascinating look at church history form the ground-up.

Diana will be a featured speaker at the Alliance of Baptist Convocation April 17-19 at Park Road Baptist Church in Charlotte, NC. I had the privelege of interviewing her about the new book and its themes related to the Alliance of Baptists.

Enjoy the interview and register for the Alliance Convocation ASAP!

Diana Butler Bass blogs at Beliefnet’s Progressive Revival and Sojourners’ God’s Politics.

Zach blogs at Baptimergent and Liminal Hues.

Alliance of Baptists: allianceofbaptists.org

Our call this week came from Beverly Hatcher. Beverly’s faith community in Winston-Salem, NC is Via.

Call us at 678-590-BREW.

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Undercover as a Spring Break Evangelist

March 23, 2009 by Chad Crawford 2 Comments

Kevin Roose, a Brown University sophomore, one of the most secular campuses in the country, spent a semester taking courses on Young Earth Creationism and Evangelism 101 at Jerry Falwell’s ‘Bible Boot Camp’ Liberty University, in order to, as he puts it, ‘learn about my conservative Christian peers and find out whether any common ground existed between my world and theirs.’ He documented his experiences in a new book, The Unlikely Disciple: A Sinner’s Semester at America’s Holiest University.

I think readers will find this undercover experience fascinating, especially if they have heard tale about the ‘The Liberty Way’, which prohibits hair ‘longer than the middle of the ear’ on male students and bans the viewing of a Rated R movie on or off campus ($50.00 fine + 12 community service hours).

Salon posted an excerpt about spending his Spring Break traveling to Daytona Beach on a mission trip to (attempt to) convert drunken revelers. He couldn’t bring himself to play the part when it came to the fiery bits of open-air preaching, so he came up with a plan on how he would blend in when it came to witnessing to people on the beach.

Evangelism to strangers, though,- that doesn’t sit nearly as well with me. So I set some guidelines for my Daytona mission. First, I would distance myself reasonably from evangelical theology. If I told someone about Jesus, I’d begin, ‘Well, according to one reading of the Bible …’ or ‘Some Christians think …’. Second, I wouldn’t condemn anyone. And third, if things ever got to a point where I was doing too well, where someone was on the verge of converting, I’d find a way to get out of the conversation quickly, no matter how out of character it was.

He gives some statistics about the effectiveness of this type of evangelism, making me wonder about why anyone would subject him/herself to this kind of abuse:

In the book that accompanies our Way of the Master program, I found several sobering statistics about the percentage of apparent converts who stay involved with the church in the long term, including one from Peter Wagner, a seminary professor in California who estimated that only 3 to 16 percent of the converts at Christian crusades stay involved.

Instead of being condescending, his way of describing evangelical Christianity is to put the reader in conversation with the students’ thoughts and struggles with the world, in order to understand their motivations:

I’m trying to treat Daytona as a weeklong thought experiment. For one, a little mental distance is the only way I can keep myself from feeling like the Grinch Who Stole Spring Break. But more than that, it’s the only way I’ve found to place myself into the moral space of aggressive evangelism, to try to understand how well-intentioned Christian kids,- some of the nicest people I’ve met all semester,- can end up on streetcorners in Florida, shouting hellfire and damnation to the masses.

Part of it, I’m sure, is that these students are convinced that their actions are compassionate and altruistic. All week, we’ve heard pep talks like this one from Scott at last night’s post-Razzle’s debrief: ‘To me, here’s the motivation to evangelize: If I’m a doctor, and I find the cure for a terminal illness, and if I care about people, I’m going to spread that cure as widely as possible. If I don’t, people are going to die.’

This New Atheist read the Salon excerpt and concluded that ‘evangelism equals predation,’ never mind the Liberty students spent their Spring Breaks hardly getting a single convert and were literally spat on. I’ve been exposed to the culture of aggressive evangelism and of those who scoff at religion. I, along with the vast majority of the country, belong to neither of these groups.

But we could use more of the kind of writing from Roose to better understand one another.

In case you’re interested, you can download ‘The Liberty Way‘ [PDF] to see the type of environment Roose subjected himself to for the semester:

  • If a Liberty student takes one step in the opposite sex’s room or in the same room as someone drinking alcohol, on or off campus, it’s a $150 fine + 18 hours community service.
  • Witchcraft or seances carry the biggest punishment, $500.00 + 36 hours + possible withdrawal
  • An abortion carries the same punishment as sexual assault, so if you’re raped and have an abortion, you get the same punishment as your abuser.

I wonder if he attempted to transfer his credits for Young Earth Creationism back to Brown.

Filed Under: engaging

The Arrival of GENERATE Magazine: An Artifact of the Emerging Church Conversation

March 20, 2009 by Chad Crawford Leave a Comment

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Last night, social networking sites were suddenly abuzz with news of a new magazine published by and for friends of the emerging church conversation. GENERATE magazine is calling for submissions of original, recent works that ‘explore, probe, rethink/reframe, question, hack, contemplate, and offer insight into the growing global conversation about following God in the Way of Jesus…its intersections, its life, its resultant creativity and community practice.’

Makeesha Fisher, co-founder and executive editor said, “Generate Magazine has been an open, collaborative project in the works for more than six years now. We convened an editorial staff earlier this year, and we’ve been focused on producing our first edition this summer. Even before the current team was convened there have been so many people who have poured energy in to the project. As we have been listening in, it is clear that, now more than ever, that these grassroots stories of action is what the emergent conversation needs.’

GENERATE hopes to create ‘an artifact of the emerging church conversation’ – a forum for the retelling of stories through visual art, documented performances, verse, fiction, non-fiction, essays, and interviews.

Special Online Preview Edition:

If you couldn’t make it to Albuquerque for this weekend’s gathering, The Emerging Church: Conversations, Convergence and Action Conference, go to GENERATEmagazine.com for live coverage of the event.

Connect with GENERATE Magazine:

  • Submit original works to submissions@generatemagazine.com
  • Bookmark GENERATE’s evolving website, generatemagazine.com
  • Follow GENERATE on twitter, @GENERATEmag
  • Join the GENERATE Magazine Facebook group
  • Visit the website and track GENERATE on twitter (@GENERATEmag) throughout the weekend for new developments.

Read the full press release

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A Tour de Amore with Thomas Jay Oord: Homebrewed Christianity 47

March 20, 2009 by Chad Crawford 5 Comments

picture-2This week Homebrewed Christianity gets lovey dovey. Tripp interviews Thomas J. Oord, a Nazarene philosopher-theologian out of the Wesleyan and Holiness traditions.

Thomas Oord’s work spans science, philosophy, and theology as he explores love’s role in the Big Bang and continuous creation of the universe, in all the major world religions, neuroscience, and human relationships.

Check out Thomas Jay Oord’s books:

The Many Facets of Love: Philosophical Explorations

Science of Love: The Wisdom of Well-Being

Philosophy of Religion: Introductory Essays

Also, we invite our listeners to participate in a call-in competition: call in a short introduction of me and Tripp for the next podcast for a chance to win a 6-pack of official Homebrewed Christianity Lenten Doppelbock, assuming it comes out as delicious as it smells in my apartment right now. (Must be 21 to participate!)

678-590-BREW

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Two Friends Talkin’ and I Loved It

March 17, 2009 by Tripp Fuller Leave a Comment

Steve Knight and Anthony Smith (postmodern negro) have a great conversation this St. Patrick’s day and I was glad I listened in. I sure miss these two NC friends.

Anthony has grown to be a very good friend, and we shared another great evening of conversation this year. This portion of our conversation (recorded for fun and posterity) covered Michael Spencer’s article ‘The coming evangelical collapse’ (tinyurl.com/evangelicalcollapse), the term ‘evangelical’ and neo-Pentecostalism, the emerging missional church, and the rise of neo-Calvinism (tinyurl.com/neocalvinism).


St. Patrick’s Day 2009 Conversation from Steve Knight on Vimeo.

Filed Under: emergent, engaging

Emergence for Emergents! Tony Jones and Philip Clayton get serious!!!

March 15, 2009 by Tripp Fuller 2 Comments

This was awesome. Ryan Parker already uploaded one of the Transforming Theology highlights. Friday night we had a Theo-Pub with some of the participating theologians, emergent locals, graduate students, and those fishing for a drink. Here is the conversation Philip and Tony have been waiting to have.  Ohhh it is really worth watching.  They start taking questions and touch on a number of big topics, including the resurrection.

Filed Under: emergent, philosophy, pomo, science, thinking

Transforming Theology Day 3

March 14, 2009 by Tripp Fuller 2 Comments

The first transforming theology event is over, but we have just begun.  I am about to pass out from standing and asking YOUR great God questions to 40 theologians all day for two days.  I will tell you that there is some really, really great stuff that will be coming out of this.  Until I land in North Carolina for my spring break I won’t get to blog, but while you are waiting to see and hear some of the theological action check out Tony’s new post ‘Everything you think about progressive theology is wrong.’

ALSO, check out Donna Bowman (a participating theologian and blogger) who gave some good play by play of the sessions taking place while I was video taping interviews.  PS, she is a good blogger and should get some RSS feeding. She also wrote a super sweet book on Karl Barth and Alfred North Whitehead.  What is a Barthian Process Theology?  ‘Divine Decision‘ is your answer.

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