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	<title>Comments on: Evolution and Spirituality with Bruce Sanguin: Homebrewed Christianity 43</title>
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		<title>By: Robert O'Hern</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert O'Hern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 20:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christianity and Oil:
      We are entering a period of declining oil. There are countless uses of oil to keep our civilization from degrading into a dog-eat-dog society. Christians must adjust. There are too many churches where members can only reach it by car. Consolidation is in order. Priests and pastors are declining in number. Reduced oil will only accelerate this happening. Charity work depends on cheap and adequate oil supplies. This will decrease. Church donations are slated to be reduced. Many churches will lack the means to stay open. All this while evolution Christianity is struggling to gain a foothold.Any thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christianity and Oil:<br />
      We are entering a period of declining oil. There are countless uses of oil to keep our civilization from degrading into a dog-eat-dog society. Christians must adjust. There are too many churches where members can only reach it by car. Consolidation is in order. Priests and pastors are declining in number. Reduced oil will only accelerate this happening. Charity work depends on cheap and adequate oil supplies. This will decrease. Church donations are slated to be reduced. Many churches will lack the means to stay open. All this while evolution Christianity is struggling to gain a foothold.Any thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert O'Hern</title>
		<link>http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2009/02/11/evolution-and-spirituality-with-bruce-sanguin-homebrewed-christianity-43/comment-page-1/#comment-74892</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert O'Hern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2011 22:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of what I read has more questions than answers, so here goes my answers. For the sake of convenience I say there is a &quot;God&quot;. He, again for the sake of convenience, created the universe through the &quot;Big Bang&quot; some fourteen billion years ago. His powers are limited through the four primary forces, namely, gravity, the electro-magnetic force, the weak force, and the strong force. That is all He can manipulate. The other &quot;God&quot; that most of us pray to is in our heads, illusions thought up by years of shamans, priests, and theologians. Their &quot;God&quot; has emotions, physical actions, once looked like us, listens and acts for one or another people. He loves us, cares for us, and gives us comfort in times of grief. Evolution is here whether we like it of not. No one will save us but ourselves. Live with it.
     On another note, for what its worth, I feel the our aging is due to our eating foods with natural radioactivity in them. The same carbon-dating for ancient artifacts also causes us internally to mutate our genes (evolution) and causes us to age. If we want immortality we somehow need to get out of this radioactive environment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of what I read has more questions than answers, so here goes my answers. For the sake of convenience I say there is a &#8220;God&#8221;. He, again for the sake of convenience, created the universe through the &#8220;Big Bang&#8221; some fourteen billion years ago. His powers are limited through the four primary forces, namely, gravity, the electro-magnetic force, the weak force, and the strong force. That is all He can manipulate. The other &#8220;God&#8221; that most of us pray to is in our heads, illusions thought up by years of shamans, priests, and theologians. Their &#8220;God&#8221; has emotions, physical actions, once looked like us, listens and acts for one or another people. He loves us, cares for us, and gives us comfort in times of grief. Evolution is here whether we like it of not. No one will save us but ourselves. Live with it.<br />
     On another note, for what its worth, I feel the our aging is due to our eating foods with natural radioactivity in them. The same carbon-dating for ancient artifacts also causes us internally to mutate our genes (evolution) and causes us to age. If we want immortality we somehow need to get out of this radioactive environment.</p>
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		<title>By: Postmodern Apologetics in a Post-Postmodern Time? &#171; zoecarnate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Postmodern Apologetics in a Post-Postmodern Time? &#171; zoecarnate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] including Corey deVos, Zach Lind, Carl McColman, Cynthia Bourgeault, Michael Dowd, Rich Vincent,  Bruce Sanguin and Chris Dierkes &#8211; but most certainly not including Stuart [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] including Corey deVos, Zach Lind, Carl McColman, Cynthia Bourgeault, Michael Dowd, Rich Vincent,  Bruce Sanguin and Chris Dierkes &#8211; but most certainly not including Stuart [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Evolution and Faith &#171; What Would Jesus Eat?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evolution and Faith &#171; What Would Jesus Eat?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that touches on a lot of issues connected to creation and nature (obviously). The interview with Bruce Sanguin was particularly [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Dowd Thanks God for Evolution: Homebrewed Christianity 45 &#124; Homebrewed Christianity</title>
		<link>http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2009/02/11/evolution-and-spirituality-with-bruce-sanguin-homebrewed-christianity-43/comment-page-1/#comment-1163</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Dowd Thanks God for Evolution: Homebrewed Christianity 45 &#124; Homebrewed Christianity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] talks to Michael Dowd this week to round out our series on evolution. Michael&#8217;s book Thank God for Evolution has been endorsed by five Nobel Laureates. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tripp Fuller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tripp Fuller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 04:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that Chad has come out about his belief in extra Terrestrials I too want to agree with the Big Erl and say, now that we know that world doesn&#039;t revolve around us (literally) we have some new thinking to do.  That said, I imagine it will be thinking where we see ourselves more fully as part of God&#039;s creation.  I also think there is a dignity for us as a species given our ability to have abstract thought, language, and culture - not to mention being the species at least on this planet where the Logos came among us.  This dignity doesn&#039;t remove us from the created order, but it calls us too responsible kinship.  You could call it the kin-dom of God if you want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that Chad has come out about his belief in extra Terrestrials I too want to agree with the Big Erl and say, now that we know that world doesn&#8217;t revolve around us (literally) we have some new thinking to do.  That said, I imagine it will be thinking where we see ourselves more fully as part of God&#8217;s creation.  I also think there is a dignity for us as a species given our ability to have abstract thought, language, and culture &#8211; not to mention being the species at least on this planet where the Logos came among us.  This dignity doesn&#8217;t remove us from the created order, but it calls us too responsible kinship.  You could call it the kin-dom of God if you want.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad Crawford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad Crawford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Big Erl. I&#039;ve had similar questions – usually along the lines of why do we consider ourselves &quot;stewards&quot; if the earth was healthier for billions of years before we arrived? Another reason why the kinship model is better than the stewardship model. I think we will adopt a theology that takes a less central place in the universe – what if (or should I say &quot;when&quot; – and I think Tripp will like this) we meet a more advanced species one day from another part of the universe? This doesn&#039;t mean we don&#039;t have a special role to play in nature. It means we need to recognize our role and be faithful to it as an act of worship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Big Erl. I&#8217;ve had similar questions – usually along the lines of why do we consider ourselves &#8220;stewards&#8221; if the earth was healthier for billions of years before we arrived? Another reason why the kinship model is better than the stewardship model. I think we will adopt a theology that takes a less central place in the universe – what if (or should I say &#8220;when&#8221; – and I think Tripp will like this) we meet a more advanced species one day from another part of the universe? This doesn&#8217;t mean we don&#8217;t have a special role to play in nature. It means we need to recognize our role and be faithful to it as an act of worship.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Erl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Erl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 20:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think an interesting caviott of our perspective on creation and it&#039;s place in the gospel it that it asumes a helpless universe. Creation by no means needs the presense of man. As theology progresses should our place in that thoelogy also take a less central place in the universe? The reality of God seems to be that it will continue long afterour own extinction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think an interesting caviott of our perspective on creation and it&#8217;s place in the gospel it that it asumes a helpless universe. Creation by no means needs the presense of man. As theology progresses should our place in that thoelogy also take a less central place in the universe? The reality of God seems to be that it will continue long afterour own extinction.</p>
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		<title>By: A Darwin Compilation, Featuring John Cobb &#124; Homebrewed Christianity</title>
		<link>http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2009/02/11/evolution-and-spirituality-with-bruce-sanguin-homebrewed-christianity-43/comment-page-1/#comment-1143</link>
		<dc:creator>A Darwin Compilation, Featuring John Cobb &#124; Homebrewed Christianity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] HBC 37, 43, 44, and 45 (wait for it&#8230;coming [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bruce Sanguin on "Evolutionary Christian Spirituality" &#124; Transforming Theology Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Sanguin on "Evolutionary Christian Spirituality" &#124; Transforming Theology Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sanguin discusses evolutionary Christinaity on the Homebrewed Christianity podcast. [...]</description>
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