This week I talk Tony Jones, Emergent Village guru in residence. Today is his 40th birthday so I thought I would let Tony know that I am glad he was born. I think the conversation is pretty good and it should inspire you to check out his new book, which I liked and Greg Horton didn’t, but either way it is a good read.
Here is our buddy Pastor Deacon Fred’s church and as you will see his voice would bring a different perspective, as would Rush Limbaugh who Chad and I both listen to, so Rush if you want to get on our podcast and talk to all 28 people who subscribed email me and I’ll fit it in.
Next Week is Brain McLaren or we will bump him a week if Rush gets in touch.
UPDATE: Tony Posts on the Hauerwasian Mafia
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Hey Tripp.
I enjoyed the first part of your conversation with Tony Jones, but I almost didn’t listen to it because I was so disturbed by a statement of yours, that it wouldn’t be heaven for you if a buddhist were there. Now, I’m not up for a debate of who will or won’t be in heaven. That’s not my point. My concern and source of frustration was my reading of your statement that it wouldn’t be heaven if a buddhist were there. Why wouldn’t you want everyone to be there…I’m not debating whether everyone will be there, so please don’t go down that path….but my desire is for everyone to live in God’s loving presence forever, because I love them. If you dislike the anonymous buddhist so much that you couldn’t stand to see her or him in heaven, how are you doing at loving your enemy? I ‘m reminded of the grumbling vineyard workers in Jesus’ parable, who were really mad when the workers who showed up for one hour of work got the same pay as the ones who’d been there since dawn. The owner (God’s) response? “Take your pay and go….I have the right to do with my money what I want.”
I just don’t get why God’s being extravagant with grace toward someone else would affect your experience of God’s love. Why not be happy for the buddhist? or anyone else? What’s it to you?
Oops, did I say Tony Jones? I meant the Doug Pagitt/Tim Conder podcast. Mea culpa.
Hey Donna,
I totally agree with you. I guess my sarcasm didn’t come off as well as I thought it did. I would actually be disappointed if God’s consummation isn’t pretty inclusive. I did like your exegesis though.
Hah! See how easy it would’ve been to play a joke on me yesterday? I’m fairly sarcastic myself, so I’m humbled (downright embarrassed) by my lack of recognition of the tongue planted firmly in your cheek in your remark. I guess when something pushes a button, the sense of humor disappears. Something to remember when I pick up a stone to throw.
I’m really glad to hear your reply. I’m a short-time listener, first-time caller to the broadcast, so I don’t really know you and Chad and your senses of humor. I will remain a podcast subscriber and look forward to hearing the conversations.
Thanks for replying without a putdown and thanks for making the podcast available for free.